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    04-20-2017, 06:15 AM
    probably cause it's an interesting site to him?
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    04-07-2017, 06:14 PM
    doubt it
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    04-07-2017, 06:40 AM
    Don't put that shit on me. Your premise that my vote is giving power to anyone is bunk. You act as if tho voting is some immense power vault that people can tap into at will and that government feeds off of. It's not. If what you say is true, government should have no power at all since the majority of people don't vote. The fact is government power is sourced in governments ability to organize its actions and confront individuals with force. This has nothing to do with voting and would exist whether voting happens or not. Just look at China, you think the power of the "overlords" there come from people voting? Go ahead and don't participate in voting if you don't want to. If that is all the power you have to give, you need to hang on to it for dear life.
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    04-07-2017, 12:17 AM
    for as long as they country has used nerve gas on it's citizens and been global exporters of it's insane ideology i suppose.
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    04-07-2017, 12:10 AM
    well, its been a global hotspot for quite some time now. any escalation in that part of the world is going to attract the maggot media.
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    04-06-2017, 11:48 PM
    I suspect the two go hand in hand. they aren't more or less important, it's just what is happening today. cause and effect, endless cycle of bloodshed. reasons.
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    04-06-2017, 11:45 PM
    or the entire aborted generation. we live in a world that is lacking of any sort of accountability it seems. I hope for justice. an eye for an eye. unconstitutional === unamerican in my view. wars also use up lives and resources that would otherwise contribute to the world economy as a whole. there are no winners in war. only those who stop the losing. yeah no doubt trump needed a victory somewhere. anyone who sees that as a victory tho probably doesnt realize how bad a shape the economy is in. usa corner getting smaller on all sides it would seem.
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    04-06-2017, 11:38 PM
    yeah that's called desensitization. I am sorry to hear anyone say that.
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    04-06-2017, 11:34 PM
    now we are talking. from the reports I have read, standard "deconfliction" protocol was followed. Also, from the reports I have read, Putin through is spokesperson said that his support for Syria was not "unconditional". I also read reports that the type of attack to be carried out was a "swarm" attack meant to overwhelm the air defenses. I don't think we have all the military intel yet, BUT the lack of any reports of anti missile engagement coming out of Syria and Syria calling an attack on one of their airports "an act of aggression" and not an "act of war" leads me to believe that this entire thing was orchestrated. I even read a report which has to be bullshit that said that the missile destroys launched from hundreds of miles off the coast to avoid anit-missile defenses. seems legit.
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    04-06-2017, 11:29 PM
    I mean you literally quoted the conversation, so I have to assume these are rhetorical questions to which I reply, bring them up? like thumbs up or thumbs down or up like in the sky? Cause thumbs up or thumbs down sounds like I am voting for some gladiator at the coliseum with Caesar and company, yet up in the sky sounds like you think angels might not already be in the sky so how could I possibly bring them up. I could give you a non sarcastic non rhetorical answer, but then that would require me to tie in morality, angels, ancient rome, and voting to one huge concept. I'd rather just tell you to follow the postings that you quoted and leave it at that. But I really don't want to sound like a dickhead, so I try to attach some substance to the dialogue.
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    04-06-2017, 11:22 PM
    anybody that watched those people, those children writhing in agony and death throws, anyone that saw that and did not feel hurt is not a human being. I want those responsible to meet the same ending. I don't think throwing bombs is gonna serve any kind of justice. trumps response was unamerican. I don't support it. wars anywhere in the world impact our economy which is directly tied to our national security.
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    04-06-2017, 11:04 PM
    There are no angels :rolleyes::rolleyes:
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    04-06-2017, 11:02 PM
    Sounds like this board is full of disharmony which is why I rarely drop in and participate. Which is also why you don't see me doing any of those things you mentioned. I am not here to accuse anyone. I am here for the same reason I was here when I made my first post. Also, I'd just like to say, it does seem like you are telling me that when Ron Paul makes a mistake (any mistake) it doesn't have an impact on the country. Yet when Ron Paul does anything right (regardless if it's a political decision of consequence) it impacts the country profoundly! That's like the exact opposite of what I am saying. Maybe you aren't trying to say that and of course you are defending Ron Paul. I think you should as I have. But I am also not trying to attack him either. My whole point was that I've grown past being regretful of a vote. I regretted voting for Bush after 9/11 not because of what became of it. Not because of the bullshit that he started in the ME or the fucked up police state he gave us. I regretted it because I wanted him to go kill people in my name. Hell I was ready to join the killing. I regret that vote to this day because I knew it was wrong to retaliate without knowing the truth, but I didn't give a fuck. I wanted revenge for something I had no idea why happened. When I woke up one day playing video games while watching the embedded war coverage of desert storm I hit me hard. People are dying on TV and it's not a game. I asked for it, and there it is right in front of me. Slaughter. Not a game. My decision was immoral, I am sorry I wish I could take it back and certainly need to know why I acted that way. I had to find out why this was happening. Here I am. I know why now. I know why I vote. I calculate it. I weigh it out and I make a moral conscious decision. It wasn't easy, but this is what my conscious told me was the right thing to do. Vote for Trump. It's the best way to express myself politically this time around.
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    04-06-2017, 10:47 PM
    I am fairly certain that power is not something that is equally distributed among human beings. I am also fairly certain that individual power is going to fluctuate depending on circumstances and relationships between people. In the context of voting, I am attempting to influence the direction of a much larger source of power. If no one attempted to do this, that larger source of power would still exist. It almost seems pointless to try and exert any influence since the power of an individual anonymous vote is infinitesimal compared to just the power of me deciding where I might shop for groceries. Bordering on almost non existent when considering how that vote might influence the massive social structures in a country of 300 million where that country is also dealing with external influence of a world of 10 billion. Yet, that act, no matter how small and insignificant as it may seem doesn't give or take any power from anyone. It only expresses an individual will. It's a token reminder that as an individual, I have power that may influence another. Regardless if it does or does not it's still an expression that cannot simply be ignored. I am going to vote one way or another. So will you.
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    04-06-2017, 10:31 PM
    I don't think the quantitative measure of power is proportional to the size of government. Disneyland is overrated.
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    04-06-2017, 10:26 PM
    Well that power doesn't exist in a vacuum now does it? I agree if no one voted, there would be a huge power vacuum. I suppose that means that power would just vanish.
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    04-06-2017, 10:20 PM
    Congress matters when they make a new law. The person who voted no when the law was passed didn't matter for that law. Unless they made sure to get the stuff they wanted in it before voting no so they could say they opposed it. That happened, that's when Ron Paul mattered while he was in Congress. That was the decisions he made that had consequences, actual outcomes. How you get "congress doesn't matter" out of what I said is just some ignoring what I said I guess. That's fine, you regret your votes. That's your personal feeling and you had your reasons. Tonight, Trump dropped bombs. I already said I don't support it. It also doesn't make me feel regret for voting for him. This is clearly a moral dilemma that folks here are trying to cast on Trump voters. Typically my personal feeling of regret come when I have acted immorally. There is a big difference for me making a decision that fails and making a decision that is immoral. I do both sometimes, but my feelings of regret don't crop up because I do something dumb, or lose, or miscalculate. My feelings of regret come when I know I am doing something wrong and I do it anyways. That is immoral and when I realize I am acting like that, I feel like shit and apologize. Not going to happen in my vote for Trump because I already got everything I expected out of that decision. To me it was a no brainer. It was an easy vote. As easy as voting for Ron Paul when I had the chance to do that.
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    04-06-2017, 10:08 PM
    I'm sure if everyone had this policy we'd all be angels.
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    04-06-2017, 10:05 PM
    of course they are "decisions". the point in the context for which we were speaking is that Ron Paul's "decisions" carried no weight, no consequence. In other words, his "decisions" were inconsequential. Just like anyone who made the "decision" to not vote for Trump had an inconsequential vote/decision. I've given you several examples of Ron Paul not batting 1000 on all of his decisions and choices. I really shouldn't have to explain how no one is perfect and how my vote for Trump doesn't mean I vote for bombs and aggression. I know who you voted for and I know you have no regrets, regardless of the fact that the man you voted for has political decision making fuckups. Sure, he's the politician with probably the least amount of political decision making fuckups, great, you win a prize for voting for him. My conscious is clear because participating in politics is not something I hang my moral hat on.
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    04-06-2017, 09:35 PM
    speak for yourself! I'm sure the fight picking was done by the other guy. I am also sure JK/SEA can defend himself regardless of who is winning the "verbal fight".
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    04-06-2017, 09:30 PM
    ikr
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    04-06-2017, 09:26 PM
    not really. he pretty much voted no on everything, proposed a few bills that went no where etc.. those aren't decisions. Ron Paul had almost no power to make decisions in government. Some of the decisions he did have the power to make were kind of sketchy. for instance earmarking bills for his district then voting no on them, knowing that his vote would lose. I completely understand his motive for it, but the end result of his decision was to stuff spending bills with tons of pork. Of course I understand on principle he was rock solid, but decision making wise? nah, i don't regret voting for him even if some of his decisions were obviously hypocritical even if to prove a point. I do regret that my efforts to get him elected weren't enough. And I certainly regret supporting him in 2012 under false pretenses. That was time and energy that should have went to a better cause as far as I'm concerned. Anyways, no I don't regret voting for Trump. He could be the next coming of the anti-christ as some want to believe and I still wouldn't regret it. We needed a political shake up in this country to get more people caring about what is happening in their names. That is happening, and I am eagerly awaiting the revolution we all know is coming.
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    04-06-2017, 09:12 PM
    Ron Paul was never really in a position to make that kind of decision. If the person you vote for loses, kinda hard to have regrets eh? This whole idea of don't blame me I voted for someone else is just as bad as the false left/right paradigm. As if the only power that American people have over their government is a once every 4 year vote. This is probably why I can say I have no regret on who I vote for. I'd be curious if anyone that did not vote for Donald Trump has any regrets over the last couple hours. I sincerely regret that my country has no better idea on how to bring peace to the world other than dropping bombs. It wouldn't of mattered who I voted for, I felt that way since 2007 when i joined these forums. Doesn't matter who i voted for, that hasn't changed.
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    04-06-2017, 08:59 PM
    sure, he hired criminals to run his campaign. he tried to use force to take something that didn't belong to him. Not saying he's a bad guy or whatever, but we all do wrong things. the point is, i'm not going to regret my decisions because someone i voted for screws up. It's my responsibility to correct the mistake, not have regret over something that someone else did that I had no control over. Yeah, he was the america president, so when he does something externally in the world, he's representing me and everyone else calling themselves american. No they shouldn't regret it. People will have regrets. It's not up to someone else to decide who should regret what and when tho. Regret is a feeling. I regret living in a world where people are ready to fight someone who voted for Trump because he bombed a deserted airfield, yet simply forget that just a couple of days ago, in that same part of the world dozens of children where gassed to death. My regret is that people care more about political bullshit than trying to figure out how to put an end to all of this shit. My hope was that Trump would bring some much needed change to the political landscape. he's done that, and will continue to do that. so i have no regret in voting for him. I am getting exactly what I expected from him in that regard. Did I expect him to be some great liberty candidate that would stop the aggression in this country? hell no, just look at the responses and hatred in this thread. No president is going to make that go away any time soon.
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    04-06-2017, 08:47 PM
    lol you called him out and threaten him. now you scared? lol
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    04-06-2017, 08:45 PM
    I was not wrong to vote for Trump. Trump is wrong for attacking Syria. I don't fall for socialist guilt by association. Do you take responsibility and regret voting for Ron Paul every time he does something wrong? Even if you didn't vote for the guy, he still took this action in your name. Perhaps I should regret being an American...
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    04-06-2017, 08:39 PM
    I don't regret my vote either. Why would anyone regret their vote?
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    04-06-2017, 08:31 PM
    man I wish i could feel moral relief solely based on who i voted for..
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    04-06-2017, 08:23 PM
    just discussing the motive
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