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    Pretty well. But there were probably only like 40 people there. It's a small church.
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    Yeah, I started out as a conservative, and I've felt like I don't really want to abandon conservatism completely, so I've kind of adopted a philosophy that's a mix of conservatism and libertarianism. I still take more conservative views on issues like abortion, marriage, border security, and the death penalty, but agree more with libertarians on foreign policy, government surveillance, and the war on drugs. So I'm still probably more conservative than most here, but I feel like the GOP doesn't reflect my brand of libertarian conservatism. Even Rand isn't great from a paleo-conservative perspective when he supports some intervention overseas.
  5. re: distraction....yeah, you're probably right about that. I didn't think of it that way, but that makes perfect sense. I'm not going to be happy if he votes for sanctions, and he probably will.
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    I think my dad probably does. We've gotten involved in arguments over issues like drug policy and foreign policy before, and I think he might consider me to be a "radical libertarian." But I'm not really vocal around other people about the issues where I disagree with most modern day conservatives, like drug policy and foreign policy. At my church, political issues don't come up very much, so I just don't bring it up and talk about it either. So I don't think people at my church know that I support a policy like drug legalization. I would likely be viewed as the "rebel" in the church or something like that if they knew my views on that. Although I'm still socially conservative on issues like abortion and marriage. But of course when it comes to something like drug policy, I simply have a philosophical objection to throwing people in prison for victimless crimes. I'm opposed to drug use and wouldn't ever use drugs myself. But it would just be hard to make them understand that.
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    I probably couldn't even run on a platform as libertarian as the platform that I presented here if I ever ran for Congress. I would have to water down my views to some extent. But I just wouldn't compromise as much as Rand and take a public position that we should interfere in the internal affairs of other countries and keep preemptive war on the table. But when it comes to something like drug legalization, I think my public position would be like Amash's and Massie's and I wouldn't advocate "legalization," but I would just say something like, "I'm personally opposed to drug use, but I just think that it's an issue that should be up to the states to decide. "
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    I would pretty much be in line with Amash and Massie with my voting record. But it seems like some people here have a double standard with Amash and Massie that they don't have with the more "moderate" members of our forum. They'll criticize me and others like me for taking the same positions that Amash and Massie also take. I guess maybe people expect you to be more "radical" when you post here since there are no political repercussions when you post on this forum, and they just expect Amash and Massie to "play the game" to some extent so to speak. But even if Amash and Massie both posted here I don't think they would call for abolishing the police or would take these really hardcore anti government positions.
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    Anyway, I believe the ultimate strategy Rand is following is one of stealth while trying to gradually turn the ship around. (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1-0o0cSw24) It so far has worked better than I expected. There has been infighting, which I predicted back in 2010 would happen (nobody listened to me). But Rand has been far better positioned to champion liberty than I expected he would. So I'm still cautiously optimistic about all of this.
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    Hey FF. Back in 2009 / 2010, when Rand was running for senate, I saw a YouTube of an interview between him and Ron. In that interview they were both asked about military tribunals. Rand's answer didn't sit to well with me. (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn52STCysYI) After that, while I continued to support Rand, I started openly questioning the strategy of cozying up to the teocons. Some folks got quite angry at me even though I never directly attacked Rand. In truth, criticism of Rand in general seems to be much more tolerated these days. I don't hang out in the Rand subforum so I don't know what it's like there.
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