Theocrat
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Because they are Marxists. Drag queens mincing about queeers the "norm". They all hate what they are and consequently are filled with hatred for the society and the people around them and they, like petulant little children, end up just wanting to smash it all.

Of course. The entire Federal Reserve system, and all its member banks, is bankrupt by construction. That's what fractional-reserve banking is... "bankrupt banking".

That's a different comrade. This is political

Prophecy, or 2,000-year-old "lucky guess"?

I don't agree -- us old diehards need to occasionally stoop down and do a few rounds in the ring with the paid-propagandists for the benefit of new folks who are just onboarding to the movement. Freshly-minted 19-year-old LPMC members with a summer at Mises U under their belt will have been exposed to a broad palette of Leftist talking-points, but there is a veritable ocean of such talking-points, and so a big part of equipping them to take on the Left is just showing them the ropes, getting out there and showing them how to sail over stormy seas...

More believable than Sniffy-Joe "You Ain't Black" Biden getting more black votes than Obama... :tears: :tears: :tears: Ol' "Brickhead" Tufts strikes again! :rolleyes: "No ... direct Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the ... Enumeration herein before directed to be taken " Read it: "NO ... DIRECT TAX"

I'm less interested in that point, just clarifying the point that johnwk is trying to make -- the manner in which the 16th Amendment was passed is clearly aberrant... kind of like a recent election we had was clearly aberrant.... Well, first of all, that has nothing to do with the bolded part -- 75% super-majority of the States is absolutely required to pass a constitutional amendment... the Cabal hasn't figured out how to change that one, yet. As for the rest of your counter-tax-protestor arguments circus, I'll decline a reprise of that crap-show. You're out to lunch in respect to the clear meaning of the Constitution, which was written for Everyman to understand, it was not some kind of Holy Scrip bequeathed from the Founders to SCOTUS so that SCOTUS may tell us their Papal Pronouncements upon its true meaning. I'll not be replying so enjoy arguing with the wind!

Kill it! Kill it with fire!

Dang it, just involved in one myself. My buddy's boat sank, we lost everything on board... tragic... :cry:

Buried mom this morning. Here's the less dark eulogy I delivered. Family, Friends, brothers and sisters in Christ, ladies and gentlemen thank you for coming out to offer condolences and respect for our family in our grief and loss, your presence is appreciated and welcome. My mother, passed away from this life on Saturday morning the 18th of March. Her husband J, my stepdad, was by her side.

;););) Now it makes perfect sense.

It would falsify the claim that it was ratified in Feb. 1913 Maybe you can help me out on the other thread of discussion -- what was the great national crisis affecting the main-street American in 1911-1913, for which he was raising a nationwide grassroots outcry for a direct, unapportioned, national income tax? I mean, there was a 75% super-majority of Americans who wanted the 16th Amendment to be passed, right? Right?

Well, yes, the Antichrist and his Whore are made for each other. But We The People should be a righteous people who follow God and reject the Antichrist's Cabal. And I prefer to believe our Founding Fathers were men of faith and were guided by God, rather than to believe they were trapped in the devil's snares. But maybe I'm just a hopeless optimist... Exactly, which is why all of this really is biblical in nature. This really is, as Q put it, GOOD AND EVIL. So, all the "technicalities" of how the 16th Amendment was or was not passed are not interesting to me. The only thing that interests me is THE REAL. Judgment Day is coming. Many are going to be caught up short, especially the ones who insist on laughing at their imminent Doom...

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Occam's Banana again." We need a better rep system! :cry:

Yes, you can bury your head in the sand and pretend there hasn't been a Cabal infiltrating this country from before day one. If you want to assert that the 16th Amendment was the product of representation of the American people, please show the historical evidence of the mass public outcry that created the super-majority required to pass that amendment. What was the crisis? What was happening in the US from 1911 to 1913 that was causing main-street Americans to cry out for a direct, unapportioned national income tax? The Cabal's retort is, "We played the right chess-moves and we won through technicality, but a win is a win." But that's a two-way street... if we want to get that technical, we can call a Con-con, dissolve the Federal government, convene grand juries, appoint special-prosecutors, and start filing charges against all Federal crooks in State courts, while we re-constitute our national government. Yep, that's a question of distributed coordination and political force. But if the Cabal wants to make this a contest of force, then let it be so. We The People will win that contest!

Also, as to the accusation of special-pleading that Establishment-apologists always roll out whenever the working-man raises the question of whether the US national income-tax is truly Constitutional, this is a pernicious change-of-subject. The Establishment are the privileged class... because they are privileged and politically well-connected, they live off the largess of the public purse. That the working-man is paying into that public-purse and they are withdrawing from it does not reduce the working-man's political right to question the validity of the system, quite the opposite, those who are the beneficiaries of the status-quo system are the ones who are much more biased by the benefits they receive from it, and stand to lose if it is changed: While I stand to benefit a little if my income is not directly taxed by the Federal government, the Establishment apologists stand to lose much more than I stand to gain, that is, their vested-interests in this discussion which would bias/distort their perspective are vastly larger than my own. So, they should not raise the "you just don't want to pay taxes" red-herring in order to accuse dissenters of special-pleading, because that will snap back in their face a thousand times over. In all likelihood, I've paid most of the taxes that I will ever pay in my working life. I stand to gain very little from changing the national tax system. However, my children are just starting out their working lives. 100 years ago, a typical American was paying something on the order of 2-5% taxes, all told, whether through sales taxes, income taxes, whether State or Federal. Today, just 100 short years later, the typical American just starting out in their working life is easily paying ten times the rate that our great-grandparents were paying, and why? We have modern technology, we have the Internet, we have AI, we have all of these modern developments that should have driven down the costs of all aspects of life, especially those related to public infrastructure but, instead, we have been on a trajectory where the State is taking an ever-larger share of our real product, year-by-year. So where the promise of technological progress was that the common man, the typical household would become more and more wealthy as a byproduct of the overflowing abundance made possible through technology, what has actually happened instead is that more and more of the real product of the nation is captured by the welfare-warfare state and literally set fire in the desert overseas, or squandered on doomed, short-lived public-works projects like Pruitt-Igoe. In a nation where probably less than 10% of households could scrape together $100,000 in a life-crisis situation, we have dozens of billions of dollars flowing overseas to Ukraine and everywhere else in the world like money grows on trees. This insanity has been facilitated by the central bank, and the central bank was made possible only by national taxation without representation, established by the wholly-political 16th Amendment. It appears that I was born at the very last generation to at least break-even in this insane, century-long social-engineering project. My children are almost certainly facing a lifetime of destitution and dispossession. So, I don't want to hear it with this "you just want lower taxes" BS. While I would not turn down lower taxes, my primary motivation has nothing to do with the relatively minor benefit that elimination of direct national taxation would have on my own remaining paychecks until retirement. The Establishment-apologists, however, keep raking in those comfy 6-figure MIC-lobbyist salaries while the US MIC blows up the sunshine in deserts all around the world....

Roger that, cowboy! No, the Constitutional Convention is the most powerful resource that States have. The Federal government was brought into this world by the States and it can be taken back out of this world by them. DC needs to get that through its thick skull. This has nothing to do with lawlessness, anarchy, civil war or any of that noise. It's a point of authority. The problem is deeper than that. We know for a fact that there is a cabal of conspirators in our country that has been subverting this nation and its Constitution, going back to before its founding. The 2020 election-heist is just their latest stunt. The founding of the Federal Reserve in 1913 was Strategic Objective #1 (they had tried two previous times, and failed) -- the constitutional prohibition against implementing a direct, unapportioned tax was the dam that was holding it back. Once that obstacle was taken out of the way, the Fed was successfully founded and the US Government then launched a century of total, global war (funded by infinity-cash from the Fed) with the singular aim and objective of bringing about the Beast World Order tyranny we see descending upon our world today. You can bury your head in the sand, if you want, but the facts are so clear as to require no elaboration.

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Don't count on it. The only administration I recall ending a "war" before an election found that the "postwar recession" arrived just in time for polling day. That was H.W. Bush--the last incumbent president who failed to get reelected (before three a.m.).