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    Yesterday, 08:24 PM
    well, if it does happen... and you disappear.... can I have your car?
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    09-21-2017, 09:58 PM
    all humans are "social" that is why they lean that way. we are all social creatures. socialism, like Anarchy... will become possible when all people have a force field and a replicator. :)
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    09-21-2017, 09:41 PM
    I dont think we should give them the Moose or the canoe.
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    09-21-2017, 09:33 PM
    dont be dissin my favorite squirrel dude. Rocky is a badass. and has a Moose for a back-up. Boris and Natasha got nothing on my favorite squirrel. they will never pin him down.... on anything.
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    09-20-2017, 08:25 PM
    both socialism and anarchy, will be possible when we all have force fields and replicators. and I can see that happening..
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    09-20-2017, 08:19 PM
    this place is rated PG-13. dude.
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    09-20-2017, 08:12 PM
    methinks. he called me a redneck... if my neck is red. does that mean that I like blackbirds?
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    09-20-2017, 07:53 PM
    whoa. Dude. Canadian beer is very good. Grasshopper. you know very little about our Canucks. they are sorta like our Cajuns, but different. how to understand Hosers.
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    09-20-2017, 07:20 PM
    in my experience.. few "Republicans" know what a Republic is... and the Democrats are certain that Democracy is the final answer to all of our human problems... (even if they cannot offer a correct definition of this word.) the Oz understood.
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  • Thor's Avatar
    09-15-2017, 06:56 PM
    Just read this: https://gizmodo.com/journalist-nearly-banned-from-youtube-and-gmail-for-pos-1815314182
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    09-15-2017, 06:42 PM
    This has nothing to do with Hollywood and "skynet." And I am not letting ANYONE else freak me out. I have connected the dots and am doing a fine job freaking myself out. LOL. And the mark of the beast? Maybe. Probably, if a "beast" exists. That is a different topic of discussion. But loosing your freedom of choice, private thoughts, etc in and of itself is huge. Connected to 1 single massive "kill switch" Look it how addicted people are to their phones now. It is evolutionary if we allow things to progress on the path they are on without raising awareness. Read some of the comments on the video of the Elon talk on a neurolace. People love the idea... videogames in your head... wow... If an AI can create and communicate in it's own language that humans cannot understand or decipher today, what do you think will happen next year, or in 10 years? 50 years? Do you know what life was like 50 years ago, compare to now... And the AI Facebook pulled the plug on was doing just that. It had evolved it's own language for communication that the ones controlling the experiment could not understand. Treating it like "climate change" will allow it to get out of control before it is too late. Relax bro, everything will be fine... LOL
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    09-15-2017, 06:09 PM
    Yes, I left off the Internet as I was on the "phone" path, but that portion of communication too has evolved. So we should just pretend like a "neurolace", as written, or something like it won't be achieved? As in faster, more immediate communication is not the goal? All sorts of different angles are being explored for a brain-computer interface. Elon Musk just as a lot of money (from tax payers) and is working on many different technologies in different areas (Tesla, Solar City, Hyperloop, Boring, etc...) with viable results in a good many of them. The mesh/lace idea has been worked on for some time... https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/207848-injectable-neuro-mesh-covers-the-brain-can-control-individual-neurons So it will "probably" be achieved. Regardless of AI (which is also showing great advancement.)
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    09-15-2017, 05:40 PM
    LOL. so how has your model worked with communication? Pony Express, telegraph / morse code, 1 telephone per town, group "chat lines", 1 rotary phone per house, 1 phone per house occupant and phones with touch tone, brick cell phones in cars only, hand held cell phones, cheap cell phones, smart phones, and eventual a neurolace... I do not see the slow down there....
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    09-15-2017, 02:43 PM
    I only use Duck too... have for years. Sure more ideas are great. keep posting. And some movies get close, sure. But none (that I am aware of) talk about things like a neurolace and the ramifications of that. And that is being worked on IRL right now... So while a a science fiction movie (or book) might help, there are good odds it will remain in the world of make believe and people will not connect it to reality... but one that finishes with the book or movie with Elon is working on a neurolace, and these companies are working on AI, and Facebook had to terminate their AI due to it creating it's own language, and what you just saw is not fiction.... might be better than trying to promote a work of "fantasy" and attempting to link it to reality.
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    09-15-2017, 12:36 PM
    Perhaps in this thread we could come up with even more great ideas to achieve that goal. That was the ultimate goal of me starting the thread. Maybe more ideas contributed and connections others have that I don;t will lead to helping raise awareness.
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    09-15-2017, 10:50 AM
    Do tell....
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    09-15-2017, 10:49 AM
    I agree, those are things I can do, in my own little box. And many have merit. Thank you. But the world around me will destroy that box I am in if nothing is done to help the world around me wake up before it is too late. So that is what I am asking.... What can we do to make the world around us wake the fuck up and not go down the rabbit hole any further than we have already?
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    09-15-2017, 08:31 AM
    I hear ya. And generally agree... But this is not a fight for liberty, that us who cherish liberty can live with the loss (somewhat) in a confined or constricted environment while unhappy or uncomfortable. This evolution is the final battle for liberty, freedom, independence, free will, and individuality... this will be the end of mankind. We can't just roll over and say "oh well, try not to make it hurt." http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/the-coming-techno-apocalypse That article or story continues. And does not even mention a neurolace specifically (only an umbilical cord via Google Glass). I think a neurolace will make the "NonTesh" as he calls them even more minuscule than he portrays. And they have armies of corporations working on harvesting data and data points to imprison us. I think the only thing that might help, is to write a screen play and have someone make a movie.... outlying all this. People don't read, have super short attention spans, and suffer from ADHD in the form of constantly jumping from one thing to another... but people will go to a theater and sit down for 90 minutes and watch something if it is well produced, riveting and captures there imagination and attention.... I am not a writer, nor have the funds to produce something. We need to find others who are as aware and concerned who wants to bring this to light... That is one way to wake people up, maybe.... they probably will go back to their screens on their phones and forget what they just saw, but we have to try something. We can't just say "oh well, bring it on." Right?
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    09-14-2017, 01:51 PM
    Any way you see to fight it? I realize it is man against machine... but hell we can't just sit back and let it happen, can we?
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    09-14-2017, 05:48 AM
    Does anyone else see a reason to be concerned with a neurolace type interface?
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    09-08-2017, 10:26 PM
    I don't see it in AI and/or a neurolace. If you do, please share....
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    09-08-2017, 08:56 PM
    Never read Dune, but I sure hope so. I fear too many people are oblivious and will not act.
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    09-08-2017, 08:33 PM
    AI is coming.... There are private companies and governments working on AI. And an AI could take Boston Dynamics research with robots to build armies against the human race. But to "equalize" that, Elon Musk is also working on a "neurolace" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2frtUraRWjI with his company Neuralink. https://neuralink.com/ So he wants to inject nano particles into your jugular vein that put a mesh over your brain and neurons to link you up to the Internet for all these wonderful things like being able to tap into computer processing for faster answers. Remote diagnosis of your health, instant communication with others, clouds storage of memories, tapping into remote cameras for viewing in your minds eye, etc. but basically making us all slaves to the machine. And some people will rebel against injecting / implanting something. So I am sure a wireless version with a patch you wear will be next. But it will give you dopamine and serotonin releases when you have it on and you will have withdrawals when you don't. Making it an always connected appliance, like cell phone addiction. According to Elon it is a way to prevent us from becoming "house cats" to AI. (Facebook had to unplug its AI a couple months ago as it was getting out of control, who will give an AI access to the internet to run and hide and proliferate? - http://gadgets.ndtv.com/social-networking/news/facebook-shuts-ai-system-after-bots-create-own-language-1731309) But it also makes us slaves to the machine. No private thoughts. No freedom. No liberty. No rebellion. No anarchy. No breaking "the law." And if a corporation like Facebook, or Amazon, or Apple, or Microsoft or any number of corporations take over.... Or a government.... Or an oligarchical collusion between government and corporations (fascism.) Or a hacker... Or an AI itself... Or an alien life force now with an easy central way to tap in and control all humans.... or all of the above in a progression series... The human race is done. Freedom, liberty, free thought, independence, etc... gone. A distant memory. Zombies is all we will be, if we are allowed to live. Maybe it has already happened and we are in the Matrix now... if it has not, it will and we will be. So we currently have a race to release an AI - which will eventually want to destroy us as a useless parasite; and a counter race for a neurolace that will be hailed as a great advancement past the cell phone, with so many wonderful benefits ....which will also enslave and/or destroy us. Either way, we are fucked. And most people have no clue. The only solution is see is a world wide EMP and turning off technology for good. And I hate to say that, as I have been an advocate for technology for a long, long while. As some company or some government will release an AI. And once the cat is out of the bag, it will spread to all the corners of the Internet and hide. PC's, phones, servers, anywhere... And if a neurolace is deployed to help humans transform and "keep up" with an AI - we become prisoners, slaves, to the machine and will be controlled or destroyed. Maybe not immediately, maybe a decade later... or more... but it will evolve to that. So without an EMP and destruction of both AIs and neurolaces - without allowing them to resurface, the human race will perish. How else can an AI be contained and not released by a North Korea or a Russia or an Iran or a China or some small private company???? I am open to suggestions as to how either can coexist with humans and still honor and preserve freedom, liberty and independence. Fat chance. But I am willing to listen if you have a suggestion.
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