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    Today, 12:44 AM
    There are policies in place now. Can we vote for no government at all? No we can't. What we can do is replace policies with other policies. We have a minimum wage. The minimum wage is supposed to help workers who have no union. It's a core policy. We shouldn't be competing with China and the poorest counties on wages. We don't live in anything like a free market right now. Taking away the minimum wage just makes US Citizens poor. If someone is going to fix every market where there are oligopoly conditions and make those markets into ones characterized by perfect competition, great, do that, and you'll be able to get rid of the minimum wage then. Government takes so much of our money, there just isn't money left in our pockets to bid up, through our own consumption, the price of labor. The government is buying new spies and new bombs every day with our money. We don't enough of it to give to the people making minimum wage. Our economy has been twisted so far from where the old textbooks were, that piecemeal revisions won't have positive benefits. The government does not want to buy the work of minimum wage workers. My understanding is that there are rules that state that businesses doing business with the government have to pay higher rates to their workers. So, our taxpayer money goes to overpay workers. If I actually wanted to buy what the government was buying on my behalf, I'd be able to buy it cheaper than the government can, so they aren't doing the best they can. In order for the magic invisible hand to work, none of these things are acceptable - they break the theory. All the pieces do fit together right, but so many of the pieces are broken and dysfunctional. The invisible hand doesn't allow for huge government spending. If there's huge government spending, it's not the invisible hand guiding the market, it's the government. If you lower the minimum wage or fail to raise it, you're not getting to a good outcome, you're just getting poorer workers. The government is in charge of the economy, not the invisible hand. In an ideal world where the invisible hand is in charge, no minimum wage is necessary. But, today and 50 years ago, it's the government who is in charge, not the invisible hand, so poor folks get screwed, that's it, no great outcome.
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    Yesterday, 06:25 PM
    No, you wouldn't. The price of a burger doesn't go up 50% if you raise the minimum wage Let's say 10%. Then, let's say the minimum wage workers get a 10% hike in the minimum wage. Burger prices will go up 2%.
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    Yesterday, 05:43 PM
    The minimum wage should be raised to keep pace with inflation. It's due for another hike, and, basically, there should be hikes all the time. This particular law goes back to around 1938.
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    Yesterday, 05:40 PM
    Raising the minimum wage isn't going to make the prices go up as much as the minimum wage goes up. Because labor costs - minimum wage labor costs - are only one part of prices. Heck, we don't live in a free market now, so if the minimum wage goes up, the prices of goods don't necessarily go up. The oligopolies don't charge the cost to produce the good, the oligopoly charges whatever gives them the most total profit. Econ 101.
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    Yesterday, 04:02 AM
    Well, what happens is that they all end up Israel-firsters, right? We're arguing about whether or not we can look at what he says and at least pretend that we might cut down on the wars in the Middle East. It's plausible enough to think that he might cut down on the wars in the Middle East a bit. He has no record at all, so we really don't know at all what he'd do. Typically, they're all bribed, blackmailed or whatever, by Israel. Maybe Trumps not. Most politicians are bribed or blackmailed by Israel these days. You'd want that not to be the case, but you just don't get that. Romney worked with Netanyahu in the 70s. They were good friends. Trump doesn't have anything like that to point to. Someone is going to be President. Hillary is just heinous. It should be apparent that Hillary's long criminal march is not what we want.
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    07-25-2016, 06:45 PM
    So you say this is a bad thing, a Trump, Putin alliance? Putin's been killing ISIS, we've only pretended to try to stop "them".
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    07-25-2016, 12:46 PM
    It's hard to find any politicians who haven't been bribed/blackmailed by history. Dark undiscovered stain and all that.
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    07-25-2016, 12:41 PM
    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/07/25/trump.clinton.poll.pdf Trump's new edge rests largely on increased support among independents, 43% of whom said that Trump's convention in Cleveland left them more likely to back him, while 41% were dissuaded. Pre-convention, independents split 34% Clinton to 31% Trump, with sizable numbers behind Johnson (22%) and Stein (10%). Now, 46% say they back Trump, 28% Clinton, 15% Johnson and 4% Stein. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/index.html?sr=fbCNN072516donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll-cnn-orc1025AMStoryLink&linkId=26899680 Favorable Trump 42% Clinton 39%
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    07-25-2016, 09:54 AM
    I like Putin. He immediately shot directly at ISIS. Instead of "accidentally" missing ISIS and killing innocent Syrians. Israel and the US funded ISIS, gave them guns, trained them. If Trump likes Putin, I have a more favorable view of Trump. Russia isn't the bad guy. They got rid of the Communism that was imposed from away. Israel and the US are the bad guy. Maybe Trump can drop our ally Israel and make friends with all the other countries in the Middle East. If there's some way the bankers can lose in this process, great. Rothschild was related to Karl Marx. Israel was given to Rothschild in the Balfour Declaration. Rothschild funded Soros.
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    07-25-2016, 09:40 AM
    I really haven't been collecting politican cards with their stats on them, because politicians aren't sports figures that people like, but generally, swine. I looked up Pence. There's nothing on the resume that's nauseatingly gross. There are positions that he has taken that I don't agree with, but I basically want almost no government, and he wants more than almost no government. I can certainly live with that. But his resume is a standard issue local politician resume. high school, college, Indiana University Law School. Law Practice. Runs for Congress. Loses. Law Practice again. Radio Talk Show host. Runs for Congress. Wins. Runs for Governor. Wins. Politically, about as close to Mainstream Conservative Republican as you can get. Was with Tea Party. (RINOs didn't do that) Was against the spending and the new laws and was in favor of the wars. His resume doesn't have any Director of the CIA sinisterness on it. Just 100% Normal Conservative Republican. There's no way of knowing how much input Pence will have. If I could hand over responsibilities to each, I'd have Trump be in charge of whether we have Middle East wars or not, I'd have Trump be in charge of immigration policy and trade and antiglobalist and whatever he can do about political correctness. And maybe a couple of other issues. I'd have Pence do domestic government spending and Supreme Court and climate change and guns (most domestic policies) Interestingly, between Trump and Pence, you can find both sides on almost any issue. Trump and Pence seem to agree on very little. You can pick positions from Trump and Pence and put together something adequate.
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    07-25-2016, 09:07 AM
    Trump is winning now 48-45. The downside to a Trump win is that Rand's going to have to wait a lot longer. You watch Veep? Those DNC emails are truly awful in the kind of way that so many people can really understand. Top DNC staffers spend most of their time mocking their core base of support in ways that GOP would get skewered for doing.
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    07-25-2016, 09:03 AM
    Today's New Poll. CNN http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/07/25/trump.clinton.poll.pdf Trump winning in both a 2 way race (48-45) and a multi candidate race (44-39). A week ago, or 9 days ago, Trump was down 7 in the head to head and down 5 in the multi candidate race. Trump favorable = 43% Hillary favorable = 39%
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    07-25-2016, 02:54 AM
    Mitt was seen as a Mormon weirdo with magic underwear by people living in the colder/coastal areas. For the longest time, the GOP plan has been to nominate a religious southerner to lock in the areas they usually win, and try their ass off in a handful of battleground states, completely writing off about 40%. But Reagan won 49 states. He was not a religious southerner. He had kids from different wives. He was a polished media star. Trump was really famous in the 1980s, the Reagan Era. Trump and Wall Street and greed is good. The Dow going from 1000 to 10,000. Pissing off the GOPe. Bush had Reagan shot (or it was just an amazing coincidence that John Hinckley Sr was a big campaign contributor to Bush and Neil Bush had to cancel dinner party plans with Scott Hinckley after Reagan was shot.
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    07-25-2016, 02:31 AM
    Reagan won New York. It's not impossible. The GOP typically nominates religious southerners who the coastal seculars can't really relate to. The stereotype of the GOP that the media is constantly spinning. Trump is not that. There are those in the cold/coast regions who don't like illegal immigrants or religious southerners. Reagan wasn't a religious southerner. I'm not claiming it will be easy for Trump to win New York. It was done before, however.
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    07-25-2016, 02:26 AM
    I get the positive kickback opportunities for Trump from a wall, but what about taking our soldiers home from the Middle East, give them jobs as border patrol, and cut down on illegal immigrants that way. When immigrants get arrested or apply for government services, we use the border patrol / ex soliders to take them home. "The Wall" is more symbolic than anything, I think. I'm not against it. Compared to other things our Presidents have been doing "war all the time" it's not worse than that.
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    07-25-2016, 02:18 AM
    I thought everyone knew by now that 9/11 was false flag by Mossad, at least everyone on the Ron Paul board, and that Ron Paul was only using "blowback" because "blowback" was the most critical but (barely) acceptable form of thought about that. I mean, didn't they find the Mohammad Atta's passport lying on the ground? Jet Fuel might or might not be able to burn steel, but it certainly can't melt a passport. Uh huh. And the "dancing Israelis" were found with multiple passports from various middle eastern countries. Most of the terrorism these days is so quickly tied to Israel, of course the msm will never mention this. Eagles of Death Metal - Jesse wondered where the security was before the show. The venue was purchased by Israelis a month or so before the show. That's the problem right there. Israel is our ally, our only ally there I guess. Maybe if Israel wasn't our ally, we could be friends with everyone else and not have to have war all the time. But Israel is in charge of our foreign policy, or has been since Bush in 89, if not longer, and wars that serve no benefit to the US, but benefit Israel, are unending.
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    07-25-2016, 02:04 AM
    Muslims aren't a problem. They're getting blamed for things they aren't doing. There's a lot of false flag going on. Everything was pretty much peaceful and nice in the Middle East until 1947. Israel was founded, and non-stop war. It's not the Muslims fault. Where are people in the Middle East getting guns? From the US. When we fund "rebels", when we train "rebels", we're actually funding and training terrorists, like ISIS. I'm not sure if Israel or the US is directly giving money to ISIS, but there are people in ISIS who got guns from the US. If you're paying people in the Middle East to shoot guns at people you don't like, you shouldn't be surprised if they use the weapons you gave them to shoot at people you do like. It would be best just to leave them alone. That doesn't mean we want them to come to the US. I'm allowed to have a personal preference as to the kind of folks we let in, and if we think the country doesn't really have a surplus of jobs, we don't really need a bunch of Syrians here. The Syrians seem to want to go back to Syria, anyway. Are we paying them to come here? I like the idea that there are different countries with different attitudes toward things, and we should work toward maintaining and strengthening differences between nations. Different countries, different ideas about how Government should work, more choices for people. And the smaller the country, the more likely that you'll get what you want in terms of the type of governance. If each person was their own country, everyone who get exactly what they want. Can't have that, but smaller is better here.
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    07-25-2016, 01:34 AM
    And a lot of contractors. Building a big wall - hiring people he already knows. Good for Trump. https://enewsletters.constructionexec.com/managingyourbusiness/2013/01/bribery-in-the-construction-industry-part-i-kickbacks/ Bribery in the Construction Industry: Part I Ė Kickbacks Kickbacks, as in the case of Wendell Walters, are payments (cash or non-cash) by vendors to employees involved in the purchasing function of a business entity. The purpose of the payment can be to obtain additional business from the purchasing company or to obtain the cooperation of the purchasing companyís employee in an over-billing scheme through the facilitation of the payment of inflated or false invoices. For example, a subcontractor having completed 100 hours of work on a project submits an invoice for 150 hours. The bribe recipient, through his level of influence at his place of employment, then processes the approval of the invoice. In other instances, bribes can be offered and paid to facilitate different types of favorable treatment, such as the acceptance of substandard materials or approval of substandard work. So, you know, assume something like that. But, isn't everything getting worse all the time? This doesn't seem that bad. You're right about jobs. This version of worst ever would be far, far less bad than the Hillary version of worst ever.
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    07-25-2016, 01:02 AM
    You and Rev are the same person, right? You picked out one sentence in a reply to Rev. He was defending Hillary. If you say that disgusting person Y is the same as person X, who is not as awful, it's a form of defense of the disgusting person X (Hillary). Trump hasn't done the disgusting things that Hillary has done. And to say that her record of disgustingness doesn't exist the way Trump's record doesn't exist defends Hillary. Ignoring her awfulness, wishing it away, pretending it isn't there, all defending her.
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    07-25-2016, 12:53 AM
    Ok, yeah. I thought that Trump was put in there to stop Rand Paul. I get what you're saying. Maybe you're right. But what you're doing is guessing. And I do a lot of guessing, too on these things. Conspiracy theories and all that. You're saying that Trump isn't a true outsider. Ok, fair enough. I think he's reading a script, and he was being pushed by the MSM. But maybe Trump was just being pushed forward because it was believed that he'd lose to Hillary. I get the whole "replace the true outsiders with a fake outsider" idea. But do they know what Trump is actually going to do? They know they wanted Rand out and they accomplished that objective. But do they really know how Trump is going to govern - at all? All they (might) know is that Trump is preferable to Rand from their perspective. But is Trump superior to Hillary? I don't think so, not from their perspective. I'm not arguing that Trump is a true outsider. If he's a villain in a play, like you suggest, what happens? He's constantly bashed by the media. He doesn't get much done? But, you know, no more political correctness? Fewer wars in the middle east, maybe? We don't really know. My argument isn't that Trump is good, but that Hillary is really really bad. (And I'll say that the rank and file members of the MSM don't seem to be pretending that they hate Trump.) Trump might be hanging out and socializing with the msm, but they're still going to treat him like a GOP when he's President, he's still going to want to govern in a manner that's going to get him reelected (I'm assuming he wants that), which means that if he's not getting GOP votes, and he's getting Dem votes, he's not going to win the GOP Primary again.
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    07-25-2016, 12:09 AM
    Hillary is disgusting. What did the Democrats say "hey remember that guy who was impeached for lying about blow jobs? Get his wife?" The Clintons set new standards for personal awfulness. We don't want more of that. How do you know how Trump is going to govern? You're arguing they're identical. They're not. We can always fall back on the whole "well what we believe is best is so far from what we usually get and what most people seem to want that all the actual nominees always appear close to each other." That's true, but that doesn't mean that Trump and Hillary are identical. There are clear differences. Build the wall. Clinton doesn't agree on that one.
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    07-24-2016, 02:02 PM
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Mayer_Rothschild On 22 October 1806 in London, he married Hannah Barent-Cohen (1783–1850), daughter of Levy Barent Cohen (1747–1808) and wife Lydia Diamantschleifer and paternal granddaughter of Barent Cohen and wife, whose other son Salomon David Barent-Cohen (d. 1807) married Sara Brandes, great-grandparents of Karl Marx. In the 19th century a story arose that accuses him of having used his early knowledge of victory at the Battle of Waterloo to speculate on the stock exchange and make a vast fortune. Frederic Morton relates the story thus:
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    07-24-2016, 01:43 PM
    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,964280,00.html Time Magazine 05/04/87 ("In 1969 Soros started the fund that became Quantum with only $250,000. Members of the Rothschild family and other rich Europeans soon kicked in an additional $6 million. Since then the fund has grown mostly through reinvested profits.")
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    07-24-2016, 01:39 PM
    The Balfour Declaration was a letter dated 2 November 1917 from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. It read: His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
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    07-24-2016, 01:03 PM
    13. In order that our scheme may produce this result we shall arrange elections in favor of such presidents as have in their past some dark, undiscovered stain, some "Panama" or other—then they will be trustworthy agents for the accomplishment of our plans out of fear of revelations and from the natural desire of everyone who has attained power, namely, the retention of the privileges, advantages and honor connected with the office of president. Who actually wrote that - above - is unknown. But it was written over 100 years ago.
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    07-23-2016, 04:02 PM
    I don't really care. Hillary is a disgusting pig who should have gone away 16 years ago. You should know better than to defend Hillary.
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    07-23-2016, 04:00 PM
    *** it hasn't. in the long run, in a free market, it might. But we don't live in a free market. I assume everybody here took econ 101 at some point, and the first thing they do is tell you what the assumptions are. And they're all wrong. Basically, wheat farmers have a free market. Even that's not really true. When you have oliopolies, and almost everything is - the "everything will work out fine" theory of the free market - Adam Smith 1776 - is out the door.
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    07-23-2016, 03:48 PM
    Wait a second, this isn't an economics argument. This is about whether not wanting their wages driven to the floor makes people racist. It doesn't. I don't want to have the "protectionist vs free market" debate. I will say that I've given money to Pat Buchanan in the 1990s and I gave money to Ron Paul both times, and given money to Rand Paul this year and when he ran for Senate. And the reason I liked both of them, even though they have different ideas about "protectionism vs free market" is that it they were very convincing to me that they understood that we were definitely on the WRONG TRACK. The World is Controlled by Evil Crooks. Is it a Protectionist solution or a Free Market solution to kill them all and take all their money? I'm guessing neither.
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