• MelissaWV's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:31 PM
    Mandate! Retrofit! Do it nowwwww! (Hey those are American jobs for Americans!)
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:23 PM
    You should get them to change the OP, then. And you should reread AF's post and my post. We were discussing reparations, and how if someone is going to go with the simplistic view that "the whites" owe "the blacks" money for past crimes relating to slavery, then it should cancel out because "the whites" are the reason there are no longer "black" slaves in the US. It was a tongue in cheek thing, but you've been twisting it over twenty times to Tuesday until you're convinced I'm saying slavery was okay and rapists should be rewarded. Reparations --- as in the stuff the original post is about --- are people who do not hold slaves having to pay people who have never been slaves, due to the sins of their ancestors. In most cases you're not even going to be able to reliably prove bloodlines. Moreover, there are groups who say ALL darker-skinned people suffer at the hands of the lighter-skinned due to the echos of slavery, so they are all owed reparations, regardless of their history. It's ridiculous. What would I do to someone who repeatedly raped me, tortured me, and held me against my will? I would count myself particularly lucky and clever to have gotten away, make sure that it isn't going to happen again, and disappear to multiple places at once so I'm never found.
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  • CaseyJones's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:20 PM
    just cause..
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:17 PM
    There aren't any old burned out buildings in the town I live in. Those get torn down before they get that far. Detroit has a specific history as an industrial hub and now it's simply not that hub at all. The improvements you've listed are largely superficial projects or tax fund money pits that have a positive and shiny effect on the areas immediately around them. There might be some long term resettlement that establishes a real upward trend in lifestyle and standard of living, but plopping a revamped stadium into a huge city is not going to do it. You are simply not paying attention if you think Detroit is the only big city to be pointed out as having extensive problems. You've never seen people speak about Baltimore here? LA? NYC? Chicago? Atlanta? Dallas? DC? And no, I don't want to go to Detroit. I've been there a couple of times, and I'm not interested in returning for any reason. It was years ago but nothing drives me to go back. That's kind of the problem, isn't it. It's a personal decision on my part --- I tend to love certain temperatures, a certain amount of wilderness, a good amount of space, a lack of crowding whenever I want to get away --- but obviously others have come to similar conclusions for their own reasons. I would rather invest, build, teach, and help around where I already want to live.
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  • CaseyJones's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:16 PM
    REVEALED: Safety technology designed to stop trains travelling too fast and crashing was MISSING from doomed Hoboken train http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3814168/PTC-safety-technology-MISSING-deadly-Hobo-ken-crash.html
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:04 PM
    How this would be reported/twisted: "Gary Johnson thinks Kim Jong Un and ISIS leaders have 'good qualities'; dodges question about world leadership."
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:56 PM
    No, imagine that your great-grandfather did those things to my great-grandmother and you suddenly decided to pay for my kids' college tuition. That would be a much better analogy. Now imagine someone felt a need to legislate that you pay for the college tuition for any kids I might have because of your great-grandfather's actions (which cannot be directly proven and which were performed by someone you never even met). Oh and don't presume what I'd do in that situation. You've also developed amnesia as well as changed your entire style, syntax, and viewpoints.
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:54 PM
    I have heard less of Iran than guns, but the guns have come into it as a necessary undercurrent since they can't blame the people pulling the triggers.
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:50 PM
    They will be super excited to learn that the Highland Clearances were an exciting, entirely voluntary process that boils down to "fleeing famine." As for the "paying the price and being released," black slaves could also buy their own freedom, so by your earlier logic they were also not slaves because they could purchase themselves. Why not own them outright and be done with the charade of making them think they can purchase themselves from their masters? It was a carrot that could be dangled. How many people actually bought out their contracts or their families? How many, after doing so, prospered? It was the slimmest, barest chance. The superficial view of history is that all blacks were in fetters with criss-crossing whip marks all the way up until the Proclamation, then they were suddenly free and everything rolled on with consistent and unified toil to where they are today. I don't understand how that's not insulting to all parties involved, but you seem to have bought in. Coffin ships had a death rate of a little under 30% of their passengers. They were often shut down below without proper ventilation, particularly in storms. They were not tended to when ill. When they died, they were heaved overboard for the sharks. Slave ships had a death rate of approximately 15-30% depending on where you look, as they sailed across the Middle Passage. There were whips and chains but the rest of what I wrote above also applies.
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:32 PM
    Good point. If we're going to regress to the oversimplified version of "all slaves were black, and all black people today suffer the echos of black slavery in the USA," then we should remedy it with "Lincoln and other whites freed the slaves and passed the legislation that restored all of those rights that were revoked by their forefathers." Neither is true, but they do kind of cancel out in a stupid way.
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  • CaseyJones's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:22 AM
    just happened, give it time
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  • CaseyJones's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:14 AM
    At Least 1 Dead, Up to 100 Hurt in Major Hoboken Train Crash http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Major-Train-Accident-in-Hoboken-Injuries-Reported-395249051.html
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    Yesterday, 08:09 AM
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/nj-transit-train-crashes-hoboken-station-reports/story?id=42444695
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    09-28-2016, 08:15 PM
    MelissaWV replied to a thread Spiders! in Open Discussion
    Dr.3D prepare for your superpowers to appear by morning
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    09-28-2016, 07:07 PM
    1. Your entire post structure, language use, and general signature has changed dramatically. Weird stuff. Hope you're feeling okay. 2. Do you know what a "coffin ship" is? ETA: 3. Do you know that some black slaves were allowed to buy their freedom as well? Being able to buy your own contract does not change the fact there's a contract to begin with. There were white slaves, just the same as there were black masters (which you yourself mentioned). There were also plenty of black people selling fellow black people into slavery. I would not say it was a racist institution originally, but it led to racism in that the common Colonial was raised with the vast majority of black people they came into contact with being property, therefore it was easier to think of them as lessers and dehumanize them. 4. A lot of white slaves were more of the legs-spread variety. It doesn't make them less a slave to call them a prostitute. They are owned, with no chance of buying freedom, and far less chance of a lovely life. Not all slaves were whipped.
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    09-28-2016, 06:51 PM
    MelissaWV replied to a thread Spiders! in Open Discussion
    A movie ending fit for AF ... stay with it ... then hate me forever.
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    09-27-2016, 05:37 PM
    No one won in last night's debate, except maybe Bill Clinton, who looked super happy to be greeting Mrs. Trump.
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    09-27-2016, 05:35 PM
    I thought that, too. You could swap around the punctuation and come up with some interesting variations. white people. do something. white people? do something. white people! do something! white people do something
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    09-27-2016, 05:28 PM
    The thread had been gone for a couple of weeks :( I thought it might actually die. Alas.
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    09-27-2016, 05:25 PM
    You really shouldn't be allowed to criticize someone's (ab)use of English.
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  • MelissaWV's Avatar
    09-27-2016, 05:22 PM
    Holy overreaction. I didn't say anything about forcing someone to vaccinate (actually, I said the exact opposite, but whatever). What I said was that you and another poster surprised me with this dangerous and outdated view on STDs. You can teach your daughter to be moral, and never sleep with anyone but her one true love who will also be a complete and total virgin, and I guess she will also not come into contact with any contaminated blood or objects, and you're fine with her being at the mercy of some guy's honesty with regards to his past sexual history... sure, nothing can go wrong in any of those steps. I'm sure your family comes from a long history of virgins-only-at-marriage-getting-together-and-never-splitting-up. Please don't bring up protection, either; HPV can be transmitted by incidental contact that occurs during putting a condom on, etc.. It gets transmitted to the hand, and then that hand touches other things. Heck, it can be transmitted to babies by their mother during birth. Then there's always the curious matter of where the first cases could have come from, but for some reason people don't give that enough thought. I won't go too far into the prevalence of sexual assault, but suffice to say you can do everything "right" and wind up on the losing end of that. Hopefully I won't hear a "I'll teach her not to get into those morally repugnant situations where sexual assault can happen," because that's pretty much in this same category where someone getting HPV only did so because they were immoral and hedonistic. You can teach someone to drive really well, but you still have to worry about the other drivers on the road. /end rant.
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  • sdsubball23's Avatar
    09-27-2016, 09:54 AM
    https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/09/27/donald-trump-said-34-false-things-at-first-presidential-debate.html How do Trump supporters defend this? Did the article make any false accusations? Or are they correct?
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    09-27-2016, 07:11 AM
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3809204/Most-snap-polls-Trump-winning-debate-landslide.html
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  • luctor-et-emergo's Avatar
    09-26-2016, 10:10 PM
    Looks about accurate. :D
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    09-26-2016, 10:04 PM
    I'm just watching a couple small parts and holy crap, Trump is rambling. Hardly making any sense. :p
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  • CaseyJones's Avatar
    09-26-2016, 07:49 PM
    did she just say she wants to disarm black folks?
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