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    03-19-2020, 08:16 PM
    Cute, mate. Yeah, I'll be real afraid of the army they can't afford to pay, because they had to keep giving people's money back.
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    03-19-2020, 08:06 PM
    Nope; disagree. Sounds like a great way to divide and conquer. You can split the 20 different flavors of "libertarianism and true conservatism" all into their meaningless, circle-jerk factions. And unfortunately, I'm not fully up to date on all the political history, but I'm sure there are people who can talk about how the tea party was co-opted and given a bad name. Easy to take a small group, make it a bunch of "fringe, angry racists", suppress it, and move along. Nope. The Republican party has plenty of good rhetoric that they just need to be held accountable for. Other than that: nope, I don't have faith in the political process. I'll go to economic means and vote with my feet, spend money with those I support.
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    03-19-2020, 07:57 PM
    Oh. We're back to "getting a tax cut can't possibly be good, because it's just a breadcrumb". Despite its objective goodness. I'm not interested in your posts that love to cast stones from glass houses. Until you have a solution that's going to improve my life, I'm gonna back the guy who decreased my tax bill. Maybe if we had less people like you who seem to love "don't even bother voting Republican, it's all fucked", we wouldn't have to settle for the right-left dread march to full totalitarianism. Maybe we could build incremental progress, and get fake-conservative Republican, little less fake conservative, starting to look conservative. -Ron Paul understood this. Left the R party in 1987; came back in 1996. It's well understood that 3rd parties don't work in the USA, that's just not going to change. We could get activism going, so that we could capitalize on the fact that an entire 40% of the population doesn't even vote, in the Presidential election alone, so that conservatives with good ideas could consistently win. But nah, fuck it. Anyone who participates in the political process is insane. Tell me man: why are you still wasting your time, 49,000 posts later, when you have been so ineffectual?
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    03-19-2020, 07:05 PM
    ...Yeah, I don't even need them to support Trump. Just acknowledge the suffocating political reality we currently exist in. And it's unfortunate that criticism of posts is seen as "you just want this to become the Trump forums". I guess the issue is that there are two different lenses you can read the posts through. The more ""hard right""/self-preservationist conservatives already see the bad policies as bad. Making the post that a bad policy is bad doesn't doesn't do much for us. Unfortunately, there is a multitude of factions on RPF, the "lefties" (some of which will even advocate for Sanders), who love to use these threads as ammunition to further conflate "Orange Man Bad". So, yeah, they love to fan the flames, and people who are tired of the negativity have to respond "yeah, dude, you clearly aren't putting this into context. ..Have you really ran the scenarios, of what would happen in the real world, with the available alternatives?" Because substituting a fairytale is silly. Just go full fairytale at that point. So. I get it. The bailout sucks. Given the current climate, there really isn't a way around it. I'm glad that the idea of suspending the payroll tax was suggested by Trump, sucks that it's not going to go anywhere. Maybe we can try to highlight positive proposals like those, get good press going, and get better from the next guy. It beats putting the Universal Healthcare and UBI guy in office. Yeah, those presidential speeches would really piss me off.
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    03-19-2020, 04:49 PM
    Yep, Trump is a Republican who got voted in, 2016. Give our current immigration policy 20 years, looks like 459,000 a year, another 9 million people. 2.6 million votes R 6.5 million votes D How does that help? Democrats aren't even going to have to pay lip service to moderates at that point. We'll be full-blown reparations required mode. If you'd like to make a point about the "largest Omnibus", I'll listen. As it stands, the US currency is inflated away year after year, the economy is listed as growing, no one is interested in shrinking the overall size of government, so it would only be a logical deduction that the 2019 Omnibus is larger than the 2018 Omnibus. Yeah - there are a ton of things Trump has been quiet or silent on. I'm pleased that my taxes were cut, regulations rolled back, MSM is being called out as fake news. Then there have been all of the debates of "he is more of the same" - right. There was no option to make any of that better. It is a non-argument when you are presenting a non-choice. I'm glad we have Trump's judges (the option), over Hilary's judges (the other option).
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    03-19-2020, 04:14 PM
    That's a fair point, immigration does not equal citizenship (green cards/legal resident, etc). Except for when it does; in the future. Reagan, supposed to be one of the great conservative beacons, was one who just gave amnesty and then made all those immigrants == citizens. Am I expected to believe that these illegal immigrants aren't going to become citizens? No one's going to kick them out. It's not gonna happen. Didn't happen in Reagan's time; certainly won't happen today. Let me know if there was more to be understood. More importantly, the study I explicitly linked to, was specifically about voting immigrants ("Virginia’s foreign-born voting population has ballooned to about 550,000"). Running the math that we have available on that, we should be able to reliably account for 50% of the D's winning votes in VA 2017 was due to voting immigrants. Is that good?
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    03-19-2020, 04:07 PM
    Well, voting immigrants who are aligned with big government certainly make big government's job easier. In VA, it looks like they accounted for half the winning votes (and we're still importing them, that was back in 2017). I can't agree that making our job, getting back to limited government, twice as hard, is a good idea. -Sure, there are the powerful white Americans who benefit from Globalism and their gated communities. There are a ton that don't. -The point is, is that surveys have been taken, and they've found that immigrants are decidedly less American than Americans (sounds believable to me). So that's awesome that you have had good experiences with immigrants. That's great on personal levels that you are able to control. In a nation of 300 million, we can't base this policy off anecdotal experiences. The numbers show immigrants are making America less small government. If we want to change the game, ensure our immigration policy leads us back to smaller government voting, then yeah, I'd jump on that immigration train. But that isn't happening. Yeah, the majority of control can be done at the US border, which the vast majority of Americans won't interact with. A small percent will; that's unfortunate. The world's never been perfect. Better than the alternative of immigrants giving the Democratic party a 100% monopoly in 20 years time when we're ballot stuffed out of the equation.
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    03-19-2020, 03:36 PM
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    03-19-2020, 03:11 PM
    So: Trump is not Ron Paul, who could not, and will never be elected. (Because the arguably most ardent grassroots support still failed to nominate him, in better conditions back in 08.) Trump isn't an honest man. That's fine. Practically 0 Presidents/politicians have been for the past 100 years, barring the extremely few exceptions. Yes - you can argue that Trump is a continuation of Bush/Obama/Bill Clinton. So it'd be great if people could stop posting the autistic Orange Man Bad memes, and trying to throw him into the "meh - he's just a socialist anyways" bucket. Didn't see that happening with the previous presidents. -Honestly, it really is just a way to stupefy and stymy any discussion. It removes any thoughtful and insightful discussion and turns it into "nah, you're just a fucking idiot" In my lifetime, Trump is the most conservative President I've seen. And go for it, laugh about how pathetic that is. I'm sure that'll lead to the outcome you want. No. Reasonable people should be able to capitalize on any breadcrumbs that exist, and hope to get them expanded upon. To make things even better the next time. Not talk endless shit, hand elections to the "other guy" who they themselves will agree has advocated objectively worse policies, but somehow "that's how we're gonna make it better". -I don't see how Trump giving us more of our money back, and calling CNN fake news is bad for us. Period. -But, no, we've got the "Anti-DeepState Detectives" on here who are the first to sow division with "Haha, you moron, this is clearly controlled opposition, you herded sheep". It's so stupid. And it works on a ton of people: it gets them completely disengaged.
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    03-19-2020, 01:54 PM
    That's fine you want to draw off personal experiences, and perfectly legitimate. My question: Have you ever lived in States that have taken in refugees? In Northern Virginia, we've got a big pocket of El Salvadorians. I went to a high school that's 30% white, perfectly multi-cultural. Except a lot of my friends parents never bothered to learn to speak English. There are mechanics, bakeries, a whole swath of businesses that operate on a Spanish-only basis. How is that not going to cause problems, when people come here, and create their own totally separate communities where we can't even speak in the same language to each other? And they do. My friends parents have done it for 15 years. And they certainly aren't doing it all by themselves. So: I've actually done some numbers in another thread: State Electorates Rapidly Changed by Mass Immigration, I'll give you that 25% are "good" guys, but we're seeing 60% of them "bad guys". Great - Virginia gets 75,000 rear-busting, honest to God, great people. That's awesome. How does that help when we get 186,000 bad ones?
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    03-18-2020, 07:26 PM
    Yeah - this is an ideological argument that doesn't have an answer. Taxes increased for whoever got the bill, and whatever the bill says it was. Sounds like that could be debated ad nauseam all eternity. Yep, I'm not a fan of tariffs and protectionism over higher standards of living that could otherwise be achieved via mutually beneficial trade. Que endless debates about China artificially dumping product, stealing industry, etc, etc. Could go on ad nauseam. Offering: Like Phil did:
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    03-18-2020, 07:12 PM
    Nope - not what I was implying. The reason for firearm ownership can be one of who knows how many reasons. Really because you have a god-given right to defend yourself. I think you overlooked the fact that people should have the right to self-determine after a collapse, rather than being helpless to 'whoever has the guns' after the collapse and they decide they want to consolidate power. Much harder when there are thousands of people with guns, instead of thousands who are unarmed.
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    03-18-2020, 07:00 PM
    For whom? This has already been disagreed with in this thread: "Joe Walsh: 'I'd rather have a socialist in the White House than a con man'". I did math with one of the available tax calculators, looks like taxes are decreased to me. I paid less taxes. -No, the cost of a functioning civilization is not a tax. When there are economic collapses, which there always have been, if you can't manage to keep yourself alive (by having methods of producing your critical drugs, etc, etc), then you decided to enjoy a short-lived fairytale. And then you die. Painfully. -Sure. People 'act rationally in their own self interest', to the detriment of global/national rationality, and ultimately back to their own self well-being. More importantly, you don't disagree that it is not a major problem, and that trying to do the "best" (ideological pure) solution will lead to worse outcomes.
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    03-18-2020, 06:37 PM
    Correct me if I'm wrong - doesn't Austrian economics explicitly state there are boom and bust cycles? If you aren't advocating for an economic collapse over a gun ban, then you're being silly. Collapse is inevitable. Shit happens. Literally. All you're advocating for is a guaranteed collapse, and guaranteed that no one will have guns to defend themselves. It sounds like you're arguing we can give up liberty to achieve safety.
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    03-18-2020, 06:33 PM
    So, there are a couple issues at play here. And for those who have already made up their minds, I'll go ahead and provide the strawman: "Republicans don't care about deficits when Republicans are in office". At this point, I don't believe the debt can ever be paid off, regardless of who takes office. We had 8 years of trillion dollar deficits under Obama. We will have 8 years of trillion dollar deficits under Trump. At some point, who knows when, there will be a fiscal crisis and/or collapse. The debt is not going to be repaid. Multiple people have already posted they believe this as well. How would we possibly pay it, when the books show it as over 100% debt to GDP, not counting any of the "unfunded" liabilities of SS and Medicare, etc. We're pretty much at the historical point where most empires collapse, I don't see how this is going to be any different. So, if you want, you can do "the right thing" - which is to eliminate the deficits and repay the debt, you can collapse the current economy. Most people on here will rejoice - as we are 'liquidating the malinvestment'. And we would be. Until the masses revolted and put someone into office who would "fix their problems" (ie, a socialist). So, we can only make the best lemonade out of the lemons that we have. You can reduce taxes and start giving people their money back. You can maneuver to try to bring manufacturing back, so that when our paper is worthless, all the goods aren't 7,000 miles away. Or you can hardline commit to your ideology, which is going to assume people will act in a rational manner, which they won't. So the "best" "perfect" solution that is being offered is really just putting a socialist back in office, with extra fervor.
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    03-18-2020, 05:31 PM
    I'm confused - you agree your method of fighting the deepstate gets you killed, and prevents you from making changes? I'm not sure what formula was derived for having 2 months to make changes, but it seems to me like if they have the power to kill you, you were going to make an instantly devastating change in 2 months, it seems to me like they would just kill you two months sooner. I'd have to agree with Phil, there's what you want, and what you can get. I'll take cutting regulations, lowering taxes, and calling the MSM fake news at press conferences. To note, I don't see your summary as accurate: No, it's being said that liberty-folk are arguing over moot points and non-options.
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    03-15-2020, 03:00 PM
    Yeah, you still don't have anything meaningful to say. Still can't articulate, on anything really. Go back to rep farming with your buy silver posts, and spending the other 90% reposting the "Trump = Stalin" meme, I'm sure it will finally get raucous applause the 4th time I will have personally seen it.
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    03-15-2020, 02:39 PM
    OH, hey zeplin. Another quality, thought-provoking post I see. Saying that was more important than proving Trump actually raised taxes with math, rather than posting a 17 minute video, just repointing to it after it was already watched, and then not responding to a reply, eh? Just in-case you missed it again, it was #59.
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    03-15-2020, 02:06 PM
    -Don't know that I agree with the premise of this. I'm pretty sure the person who will be blamed is whoever the mainstream media decides to blame, which is whoever didn't advocate for bigger government. "If only government had the power to do X, Y would have never happened". -If, somehow, the collapse happens at the miraculously correct moment where socialism could be blamed (*which it won't*), the media still won't blame its golden goose. As long as there are rich people out there with money, then it will be their fault that other people are suffering. The alternative of not having "free universal healthcare" (by government) will become ludicrous, and anyone who dares to utter opposition will be accused of "you just want people to die". -Right, so this ninty-one year hindsight comes from the benefit of Herbert Hoover in office, not being a socialist, and not having claimed "the sky is falling - executive order - " -No, I'd have to disagree that "if only we do X, which we know to be objectively horrible, then Y great thing must happen"
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