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  • William Tell's Avatar
    01-11-2019, 08:39 PM
    When you look up the phrase "Politics makes for strange bedfellows", it redirects to this story.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-11-2019, 11:13 AM
    President Trump signed the USMCA agreement. This NAFTA replacement contains language such as Government Tribunals, Sustainable Development and International Labour Organization, which is a United Nations Agency. The media on both sides are not reporting any of this. During this, a “crisis” suddenly emerged, blaming immigrants for changing election outcomes, taking over our way of life, collecting various forms of welfare and the cause of many if not all of the crimes in America. I do not know any poor, down and out immigrant who would travel thousands of miles just to change “our way of life”. As poor as they are, looking for work, I doubt they know anything about the internal workings of our government. Yes, there are immigrants that do cause crime, we have laws to address that. Give them their day in court and prosecute if found guilty. If innocent, let them work the jobs Americans don’t want and leave them alone. But don’t take Rights away from Americans out of spite.
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    01-11-2019, 08:10 AM
    PAF started a thread The Year is 2059 in Open Discussion
    Spotted Owl plague threatens northwestern North American Union crops and livestock. Baby conceived naturally! Scientists stumped. Couple petitions court to reinstate heterosexual marriage. Iran still closed off; physicists estimate it will take at least 10 more years before radioactivity decreases to safe levels. Last Castro finally dies at age 112; Cuban cigars can now be imported legally, but President Chelsea Clinton has banned all smoking.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-11-2019, 07:25 AM
    This is my concern about giving the Fed control of 2,000 miles of property. Along the border, 3 million residents, and businesses which employ people, will be adversely affected. Affecting a $1 billion per day economy, devastate communities, property values plummet, potentially driving more people to rely on government assist. Churches, golf courses, resorts and tourism, farming, shopping centers, not to mention the number of gun-carriers in the great state... there are videos showing how towns have folded up due to prior portions of the wall. After Obama's largest land grab of all presidents to date which prevents private ownership and homesteading rights, I feel this president is putting the icing on the cake. It certainly lines up with the UN sustainable development portions that are in the USMCA that he signed. Once "federalized" - Private property, Guns - all in a swoop.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 09:58 PM
    I’ve got mine too. But it isn’t immigrants who are threatening to take them. You Fed that land and all bets are off. For 2,000 miles. I’m going nighty night.
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    01-10-2019, 09:37 PM
    Federalize that land and the right to carry goes out the window. When one Right goes down the crapper, in this case Property Rights, the rest follow. This is what you don’t understand. And yes, you are in fact, a trump humper. Edited, this was to SwordSmyth.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 09:31 PM
    +1 The “crisis” Trump should have talked about on national TV was how the 2nd was under attack, private property should be protected, how much of a drain on society multi-generational Welfare is, and most important, the detriments of Common Core and the need to end it.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 09:13 PM
    1. ??? I don’t think you know the answer to that. 2. Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for most government programs. I feel no different than I did last year, I am still supporting Section 8 recipients, most of which in my daily encounters are multi-generational Americans. In two states, since I live near the border. 3. I will not compound problems by adding to government induced problems by supporting non-liberty initiatives. Certainly not giving what does not belong to me to the Fed. 4. Private Property Rights is the essence of Liberty. Which this forum should be advocating - how we can regain that back, not move away from it.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 08:58 PM
    Now put yourself in the shoes of 3 Million residents and business owners along that 2,000 mile stretch.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 06:45 PM
    I didn’t think you could do it. Thanks for playing.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 06:32 PM
    Swordsmyth Riddle me this: Trump bans bump stocks. He publicly announced raising age to 21 to buy a gun. He signs USMCA which has United Nations/ILO Sustainable Development written all over it. You actually believe he is America First? How about reading that USMCA thread that you created. Read all of it, and then put 2 and 2 together to see why he wants 2,000 miles of Texan land affecting over 3 Million residents and businesses. Keep in mind that his predecessor took the largest land grab of all presidents in history and handed control over to the Fed. Put this puzzle together and share your findings here, if you are up to that challenge.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 03:19 PM
    I support my own liberty, which also preserves other individuals liberty. This you do not get, nor ever will.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 03:12 PM
    Me neither. You support democracy, not individual liberty. I still feel I may have met you before when I busted you for attempting to sabotage the delegates, or perhaps it’s just a coincidence based upon your ridiculous rhetoric on this forum.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 02:49 PM
    Gang mentality, gofundme to take what does not belong to you. Perhaps me and a few of my friends should gofundme and kick you out your property - with a signed piece of paper, of course.
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    01-10-2019, 02:41 PM
    Undocumented immigrants do not legislate law, they aren’t even eligible for most govt. programs. The criminal lobbyists who sign UN agreements at the WH pass laws which violate all people’s rights.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 02:26 PM
    Giving Fed control, by force if necessary, of Private and Public Land is indeed a Globalist Agenda.
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    01-10-2019, 02:22 PM
    It’s more like the ‘12 campaign, where we vetted those who were actually us from those in the other camp claiming to be. History does have a way of repeating... but it helps to know who the true ones are.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 12:25 PM
    That homesteading land was there long before the government thefted it away. Your analogy is not to live anywhere govt. decides to draw a line on a map or piece of paper.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 12:21 PM
    On your Private Property put your own fence up on your own dime. What I do/don’t do with my own property is my own business. I don’t rely on socialism/welfare, certainly not the FedGov.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 12:05 PM
    That’s why Private Property is so essential to Liberty... it’s none of your business what he/she/somebody else does. Once Private Property is forfeited to the Fed, you are no longer a 60% slave, but a 100% owned one.
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    01-10-2019, 12:00 PM
    Undocumented immigrants don’t qualify for most government programs, so the Fed wants control so that bankrupted businesses and those it used to employ can pick up the slack and rely on government assist. Makes sense. Wait until the UN/IUO USMCA goes into affect to really see prices skyrocket in this country, and others.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 11:12 AM
    No dispute. However presidents do “set the tone” for the American people. Those who “trust” in him anyway. Case in point.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 10:48 AM
    Your way supports a long time democrat who is now president, who gave hundreds of thousands to the Clinton Foundation and Federal Democrats, tries under his breath, and over it, to Disarm the people, signs with his pen an agreement to have United Nations and International Labour Organization (USMCA) decide the fate for business owners not only here but in other countries, and wants to take Private Property away from over 3 million residents and business owners and give it all to the FED. Obama didn’t succeed enough in the largest land grab of any president in history, trump the real estate magnate wants over 2,000 miles, by force if necessary, which will upset a $1 Billion per-day economy, plummet property values, devistate communities, cause bankruptcies and potentially drive those who become unemployed onto government assist. You ignore everything he and this WH are doing to promote this New World agenda screaming MAGA. TDS strikes again.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-10-2019, 09:56 AM
    I sent a note over to TNA suggesting anything under a 90% should be labeled RINO, NEOCON, Democrat, ascertaining by recorded votes which would apply to the label. I’m good with the way it currently is because I read in-depth but I’m sure some folks just skim through.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-09-2019, 09:04 PM
    How? What is your solution?
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-09-2019, 05:04 PM
    USMCA Is A United Nations Agreement The USMCA is riddled with the International Labour Organization, containing language such as Tribunals and Sustainable Development. This is the NAFTA replacement agreement that our U.S. government is pushing. Please look at this entire globalist agreement, Chaper 23 (Labor) https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/united-states-mexico-canada-agreement/agreement-between The International Labour Organization (ILO) is a United Nations Agency that sets international labour standards.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-09-2019, 04:53 PM
    After Obama’s largest land grab to date, I wondered why Trump would reject Property Rights, affecting a $1 Billion PER DAY economy, 3 Million U.S. residents and businesses, and hand over 2,000 miles to the FED. He never mentioned a single word about “incentives” in last nights speech. Or walk back his “raise age to 21 to buy a gun” so that Women and their children and overall Americans can defend themselves against rapists and murderers. Not a peep.
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  • PAF's Avatar
    01-09-2019, 03:40 PM
    Yep. It also looks like Trump is a Globalist. But some around here may disagree.
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