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    05-29-2018, 07:58 AM
    Garrett was the one who filed a bill to decriminalize marijuana. One of the top 10 up there the way I see it, not that anyone outside the top 3 are very good. Shame he's leaving no way will anyone better replace him.
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    05-28-2018, 01:32 PM
    I'm not ignoring God's commands to be merciful. I just don't think that means being vegan. You kill cockroaches and flies and I doubt you would mind killing mice but freak out if someone kills anything cute. God forbade murder, he never forbade killing animals. I tried focusing on the verses that specifically said what Jesus ate. As best I can understand your logic you think those were either forgeries or Jesus is not compassionate and ate a demonic inspired diet. Maybe there's a third option I can't see. He ate flesh after he rose from the dead. It's right there in your bible. Those are all good verses, and they have nothing to do with a vegan diet. They have to do with following God and his law with all your heart rather than focusing on ceremonies and buying your way into heaven. So basically the Old Testament law was a mind game, and when God said you must sacrifice an animal he actually wanted them to disobey him? Wow. The author also fails to point how Jesus commanded his disciples to go prepare the Passover..
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    05-27-2018, 08:18 PM
    OK, so meat eaters can just discount all veggies because 90% of them are raised with pesticides. We've been over this before many times, and I really don't have the time right now to go over this in-depth again. Even if the Bible was not tampered with, it is undeniable that God's concession in regard to meat eating was not his original design/ perfect will. Just as divorce, polygamy, and numerous other things that God tolerates in this fallen world were not his original design. Should Christians aim for God's perfect will or God's permissive will? It's not just my opinion that the fallen angels taught mankind to eat animal flesh. A number of early Christian writers talked about that, but as I said earlier, there was a big division in early Christianity, and the carnivore side won out. There are whole books written about this, it is a big topic, not one that we can cover in a few paragraphs on a message board. There are tons of verses where God did demand animal sacrifices. I cling to the verses I do on this topic because they are actually about eating food. It has taken countless mental gymnastics and ignoring of verses along with speculations on mistranslation and tampering for you to make your case for Biblical veganism. The common man who reads the Bible will see that even Jesus ate meat. Food is just food. God knows whether we are truly interested in his will, and that does not hinge on what we eat. As far as original design goes God did not intend for women to have pain during reproduction, does that mean women should not get pregnant?
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    05-27-2018, 07:04 AM
    Excellent point. Could it be that there may be some good fats as well, and that eating a hormone filled factory pig and a free ranging deer may have completely different effects on health? I believe in healthy plants, I also believe in healthy meats. Almost none of those defending eating meats approve of factory farms, just like you like plants but hate Monsanto. I'm sorry but I don't see how that's not inventing a sin and calling good evil. If eating meat is demonic then the countless verses that are approving or neutral on it show that either God is on the same side as the demons in this case, or the Bible is so hopelessly corrupted it can't be trusted on anything. I really have no problem with a person being vegan, and I wish nothing but health and happiness to us all regardless of diet. But labeling things demonic is a slippery slope and because of that I have to bring up this passage.
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