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Whether for this or for that, understanding liberty or not, it comes down to the dollar. I'd take a full-on conservative if I knew he/she/it/they/them/IDon'tKnowWhatIAm actually abided by the word conservative. DEBT=SLAVERY Reign-in spending, slash this, cut that, cutting the funding to the vulture-lobbyists in DC, new agencies wouldn't be created, reduce/eliminate funding to the ones that already exist (OWS, TSA...), which puts money back in my pocket and "permits" a little more freedom. I've always been a faster than fast driver. Got that from running drag all those years. As Lee Iacocca used to say, lead, follow or get out of the way ;-)

To the contrary. I’m not obsessed, everybody I speak to is. Every time I think there is an opening to talk about fiscal responsibility, or another candidate for prez such as Rand or Tom, the obsessed repuGs keep repeating Trumps name and then accuse me of being a lib plant. We have no common ground.

Bless you son, you are right, 250 years of spiraling down the gutter just isn’t enough. Perhaps if the 1% quit their griping and ranting, Liberty will spread at a faster rate. LOL

Ask those “R’s” if they would scratch, kick and fight to vote Massie, Rand or an equivalent for prez. Ask those “R’s” if they even like Ron Paul, and if given the chance vote him for president. Why is it about Trump? Because that’s the exact reason they’re upset at the bitch. Fiscal responsibility doesn’t matter to them. Neither does nationalized medicine, or the police-state apparatus we’re under. Talk to them about liberty matters and you will be shunned. So, tell me how that is “winning”, aside from the letter after the name.

To denegrate the memory of the late, great Jackie Gleason like this is a crime against humanity.

My dealings too. The part that you missed from talking to all those people daily is that Trump (R-Fascist-Libtard) was “sent by God”. As if we need another 4 years. Come to think of it, if he somehow wins, he could theoretically score 8 years. Can you imagine? + Rep 69360

Good riddance to the Cheney Dynasty. It only took how long? Sad thing is, she only lost because the libtard-fascist Trump Humpers got mad at her.

Oh, well, then, since you only support goods made here in 'Merika, then that negates my wanting to buy/sell/trade with others, even when the product is inferior and highly inflated by union cost. My bad, I thought choice is what drove competition. Free Trade "If you can't or don't want to compete, conquer".

Yes but Swordsmyth (even though Trump and the Clintons were life-long friends) Congress, Antifa, FBI, etc. etc. etc. "wouldn't let him". Any good Trumpsupporter knows that.

I never cared for Gary Johnson and I certainly never supported him. Call me an Agorist, libertarian with a little l. Ron Paul I like, Tom Massie I like, anybody who understands what true liberty means. Otherwise, I don't want to be "represented", and I certainly won't vote for lessers of evil to make my own decisions for me. I'm out of + Rep for acptulsa

I understand your reasoning. The point that I am trying to make is, Government Has No Business in Healthcare period. That is up to the individual and their personal/private physician. Further, people who keep promoting "monoclonal antibodies", or other, as a viable alternative, you have no idea what preexisting conditions or medications other individual people may be on, and it could be life threatening. Again, that is up to you and your personal/private physician to discuss behind closed doors.

Free Trade is just that - Free Trade. Nobody, not even government, has the right to tell me who I should, could or otherwise trade, sell or buy from. This is one of the areas dems and repubs can't get through their thick skulls. Here's what they DO know: "if you can't compete, conquer".

Ask yourself if Ron Paul or Tom Massie, or even I, would have done that. Or is that "too pure"?

A couple of bad reds are bad enough. Many bad reds should be a huge red flag: Ron DeSantis on the Record The only way to Globalize the PLANdemic and carry out Gates' plan was to temporarily put the M(ilitary)IC oh hold. Trump started a new Federal Agency (OWS), hired Gates' stooges, and responsible for the huge leap toward nationalized medicine. Hell, even DeSantis used some of that Fed money to open government clinics across his state. No to mention the "Cares" Act, promising to give $1B to Gates' initiatives but then increased it by more than 4-fold, among others.

You make every excuse for your buddy the NY Lib (which acptulsa outlined previously), and still give passes to your repuG cohorts. Amazing. And yet, you are still here on RPF.

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The Ever So Real Steal:

With all that red in the OP, I scratch my head why people still like this guy.

People don't Read the Record. Like how many red marks are next to his name. Ron DeSantis On The Record

They are NOT "illegal". They are being welcomed with open arms. Want to blame somebody? Blame the repuG politicians in office and their security apparatus, and the demon politicians in office who want welfare for all, who charge the American tax-payer money for these programs. Until you realize that, be prepared for more anti-4thA and more money sunk.

More division. Instead of explaining to democrats and republicans alike, that tax dollars are taken and given to the corporations, and that corporations should stand/fall on their own, saving ALL people tremendous tax dollars. And by explaining that corporations lobby government both left and right, which has a lot to do with unjust laws and mandates. Etc. BTW, did he mention that he himself took federal dollars to institute government run clinics across the state?

I've gotten to the point that the only winning move is not to play. Whether one side wins or the other, the system/environment will continue to exist, filled with slick attorneys, lobbyists, MilitaryIC and MedicalIC jobs abound which "must be preserved", where "representatives" take tax money from people to give to the complexes. Ron was right. It takes the hearts and minds of the people to effect change. Overwhelmingly, people would rather "pay their fair share" to keep/obtain a job, or live on the government dole. Vote either way in the left/right Welfare system, you condone it. Unless of course you believe the country is filled with people who would gladly vote Ron's and Massie's. Which they won't. The People simply do not want that. And if they happen to do, look at what happened at 2012 RNC. Do you honestly believe the system will allow that, without overwhelming people, and I mean overwhelming, fighting against it? Sure. vote local if it will help. Picking up arms will not sway people's minds. Peaceful separation won't either because tptb will continue to expand at all expense. Trump may have done one single thing right - signing that Lobbying Ban At The Beginning Of His Presidency. But the Fascist Moron, after he instituted another Federal Agency, went and REVOKED the BAN Jan 20, 2021, right before Biden took over. He is a scam artist. And I never heard a peep from the so-called repuGs.

^ I just had to save this one ^ Pont 1 finger, 3 back at you.

He never vetoed a thing. In fact, he praised and took credit for the Trumpcinne disaster he caused. Had it been Ron Paul or Massie, they would have said, go to your own private physician and seek advice there. Ron or Massie NEVER would have started yet another Federal Agency, which is exactly what your NY Lib did, and then handed it to Biden to take it where he left off. And people wonder why this country tanked to hell.

Re-funneling money does not count. Still ignoring/making light/praising who/what your buddy 'ol pal funded during the entire mess, I see.

And? So? Was I supposed to care either way? Demons = social welfare for all. RepuGs = corporate welfare for all. Was there supposed to be anything significant about this thread? You know, other than Team “D” and/or “R”?

Because The People are actually fine with it. Otherwise, they would make a fuss about it and blow the phones off the hook calling their representatives. You know, like they do concerning abortion. How many MAGA hats go through airports thinking nothing of TSA = most if not all of the ones I’ve run into.