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    Today, 11:11 AM
    New Santa Cruz album...
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    Today, 10:07 AM
    Now leave me out of it.
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    Today, 09:57 AM
    Do not attempt to rally a negative campaign against the member. Reported. Welcome to the subject. It's you. And yours.
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    Today, 08:48 AM
    Leash your pets.
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    Today, 08:43 AM
    I'll tell you how you can take my lack of a response. My lack of a response should indicate to you and yours that I'm not interested in participating in this campaign that your specific group have going on to cause constant, needless, noise with regard to either of them. I've no intention of helping you and yours in helping the aggression toward LE along. Nor will I participate in it at Gunny's expense. I think you should mind your business. That's what I think. Because what you and yours are doing is far more detrimental and valueless to the site mission than whatever differences they have between themselves individually. I saw your thread over there talking about how you all were going to torment LE over here. You all were trying to figure out names to call her over here about being anti-liberty in order to keep it going when it should have been ended a long time ago. Now, why did you all do that? That's aggression. Notwithstanding the fact that it's childish. You people are the problem. Not LE or Gunny. Those two are responsible enough to work out their differences in the interest of compromising on a solution on their own if you peckerheads would stop coming over here specifically to stir up division between them and needless noise at everyone's expense. Gunny and Liberty Eagle wouldn't have more than maybe one or two communications with regard to any disagreements they have if you people would stop egging on unnecessary turmoil. It makes the whole place look like romper room. I respect Gunny. And I support Gunny. And his presence here outweighs that of yours because his efforts have been demonstrated to be valuable. Yours have not. You've proven yourself to be a detriment. Especially if you're going to strategically use the board to further instigate drama at his and her expense.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 08:22 AM
    Well, shoot em a line while they're up your way and let em know their uninstaller needs fixed, Lamp.
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    Today, 07:52 AM
    I tried it to see what the hype was about but I uninstalled it after 30 minutes. Its a kid's browser in my view. Though, it did load web page images as placeholders so I guess that's why they claim the page itself loads faster. The ad replacement policy is interesting. It kind of reminds me of why I never joined facebook. I remember when all of the mainstream talking heads (publishers, as it were) popularized it in synergy when it first came out. I said, nope, I'm not doing facebook I see where this is going. lol. Anyway, one other noteworthy thing is that it left quite a bit clutter after uninstalling, too. Its unistaller isn't very thorough. Obviously poory written. I had to manually go through my file system and registry to clean up all of the junk it left behind. It installs some other stuff along with the browser, too. Which wasn't apparent until I was cleaning up its leftover mess. ;) To each their own, I suppose.
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    Today, 07:07 AM
    TODAY I WILL SPEND 500 FRN ON 1000 THINGS. TOMORROW 1000 THINGS WILL BE 5000 FRN.
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    Today, 06:19 AM
    That's a lot of work for one person, Shiff. Stay safe.
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    Today, 05:47 AM
    MAESTROS ARE GOING FOR 48 FRN. THE MENDINI GOES FOR 69 WITH A CASE.
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    Today, 01:17 AM
    lol. Okay, Ragin, that was funny.
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    Yesterday, 10:36 PM
    I can't take you seriously, man. You may go.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:24 PM
    Okay, undergroundrr. You're slide stepping. otherone tried that very same thing on the last page and I had to reassemble that discussion in order to force him back on topic. So, let us reassemble our dialogue, undergroundrr. Now. undergroundrr, you left off in our discussion asking whether the contract was signed under compulsion. Did you not? Let's continue. I said that I don't know, you tell me. Though, I offered that the means of deciding whether the contract was signed under compulsion was to first consider and conclude whether what is consentual is necessarily voluntary. And if so, then, how so? If not, then, why not? This is how one defines compulsion in direct context with your question. You see? This is what I mean throughout the thread when I state that operational definition is necessary if one would attept to make an ideal applicable in any society.
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    Yesterday, 03:44 PM
    I disagree. The dilemma exists in application. Though, one may certainly hyphenate any set of isms verbally if it suits one's whim. For instance, libertarian-communism. See? I can say it. But how do I make them appicable as an Indivisible whole in the company of my peers who understand them to be no more than two contrary nouns combined to create a formal fallacy? They're directly contrary isms in fundamental principle. The only way you can make them applicable as an Indivisible whole is to redefine one or the other or both for the purpose of creating the illusion of applicability. Which is precisely what you guys are trying to do by redefining fundamental Anarchism to suit your whim and then hyphenating it with capitalism. It's intellectual dishonesty and of the most obtuse magnitude. It won't work, though, because we can easily go 50 pages. Anarchy = No Ruler. Thus, no rules. No hierarchy
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    Yesterday, 03:40 PM
    You tell me, undergroundrr. Is what is consentual necessarily voluntary? If so, then, how so? If not, then, why not? I asked the question early on in the thread. Though, like my other quesions, it went completely ignored. Additionally, and more critically, is whatever is voluntary also ethical? For instance, earlier in the thread and elsewhere on the forum, I've seen the idea tossed out there of rule by landlord. That the property owner determined one's rights. Meaning that whomever owns the land can impose whatever laws he wishes on anyone who works or lives within his land. Is this not the very nature of a state? If not, then, why not?
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    Yesterday, 02:22 PM
    22 pages. lol. And all because somebody asked should libertarians support anarcho-capitalism. 22 pages. And the op hasn't even been back. That's the funny part. I think he just dropped a grenade for the fun of it. He's probly laughing at us. I'm gonna get ready for work. Screw you guys. lolol.
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    Yesterday, 02:14 PM
    Okay. Let's put it another way. What obligation would the private mercenaries and private court in your ancap society have to you, the purchaser of their services, to fulfill their service?
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    Yesterday, 02:06 PM
    Yes. What If I don't pay? What purpose does a contract serve? Does a contract not obligate me to be held liable if I refuse to hold up my end of the contract? So. You gonna take me to court? Court equals coercion. You gonna shoot me if I don't obey the contract? That's consequence. Coercion.
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    Yesterday, 02:05 PM
    No they aren't. Theyr'e two terms which are in direct opposition to each other in fundamental principle. No, capitalism means capitalism. Anarchy mean anarchy. Capitalist walks into a store and says I'm buying some gum for myself with my pieces of silver. Anarachist walks into the store and says I'm going to help myself to some of our gum.
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    Yesterday, 01:58 PM
    No, you're misrepresenting my thoughts on the topic. I agree that if you want to opt out and if you want to get together and take care of yourselves and be self-reliant, then you should be free to do that. Especially if you've renounced the use of force because then I don't have to worry about you. Libertarianism permits for this. Again, though, and for the last time, once you hyphenate Anarchy with Capitlism as an application, you've inserted a coercive principle into the program in the eyes of the Anarchists. So. The question naturally follows how that gets settled. That's all I'm saying, man.
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    Yesterday, 01:37 PM
    I'm not contending that Anarchy is a pipedream. In fact, I contend that Anarchy could work. I'm simply contending that Anarchy and Capitalism cannot be hyphenated in any applicable way because Anarchy and Capitalism are fundamentally different in principle to the point that they are in direct opposition to one another.
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    Yesterday, 01:30 PM
    Blast From The Past. Good movie.
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    Yesterday, 01:20 PM
    No. I'm not going to reply. We're just starting the same debate over and over again. Ultimately, the question that has not been answered still stands. And it will continue to stand unchallenged. Which is: How can an Anarchist and a Capitalist reasonably, justly, and logically, settle any dispute which involves property rights if both have different and opposing conceptions of property rights? I contend that there are two options. 1 - fight, 2 - submit to opposing principle without protest. Compromising on ones principles is not an option because compromising on ones principles settles nothing with regard to the difference in principle. It merely confirms that the difference in principles still exists and that they remain unsettled.
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    Yesterday, 12:59 PM
    Good taste in those shades, tho
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    Yesterday, 12:41 PM
    I dunno but hopefully the guy in the green shirt isn't working the grill.
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    Yesterday, 04:29 AM
    Turns out my bitcoin was just one of those replica coins. But I still have my silver certificates, so...
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    Yesterday, 04:21 AM
    She's better at Karaoke. I think so, anyway.
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