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    11-17-2016, 11:30 AM
    If asked that question, what do you think Ron Paul's answer would be?
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    11-17-2016, 11:03 AM
    Fatalism never secured a single liberty for anyone. If we take that line of thought to its logical conclusion, there's no point in doing anything ever because the puppet masters are pulling every string and their reach is absolute. That line of thinking is borderline suicidal... or maybe over the border.
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    11-17-2016, 10:39 AM
    The law under our current system is in direct defiance of the limits placed on it by the Constitution in so many ways it is impossible to list them all. If it is restored, all valid aspects of the complaint will be satisfied.
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    11-17-2016, 10:15 AM
    I'm talking about legitimate law, not the unlawful mess if anti-Constitutional legislation that the government has become today. At the federal level, legitimate law is the Constitution and those laws authorized by it... full stop. All we have to do is simply go back to the Rule of Law, it is that simple. 99% of the federal government disappears if we do. To head off an anticipated response... I don't buy this "the Constitution failed" stuff. The Constitution didn't fail. The people failed. That part does not need to continue, and it can change overnight the moment the will is there to restore it. That's sort of what was supposed to be going on here... restoring the Constitution.
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    11-17-2016, 10:04 AM
    This deserves repeating. That's exactly why the concept of the Rule of Law exists. That's the alternative to settling disputes with warmaking. The gulf between what would be ideal for perfect beings in an infinite environment, and what is the best that can be done with actual human beings in the real world, is at the core of why libertarianism is relevant to that real world and why anarchism is not. Which brings us back to what RPF has become since February. To argue that point - the central message of Ron Paul's political career - here, in a place named for him, I must subject myself to all the worst behaviors the Internet has to offer? That there should be three ad hominems and a pair of outright troll posts per serious reply, does it really make sense to attempt discussion in such a venue?
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    11-17-2016, 09:02 AM
    Golly gee. Where would anarchism be without the natural right to limitlessly shit on someone else's property?
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    11-17-2016, 08:58 AM
    I didn't work my ass off for liberty all these years just to give deliberate saboteurs a pass on intentionally wrecking the movement. I will diligently work for the rest of my life to make sure anyone professing adherence to any form of anarchism is purged from any political organization or movement in which I will have influence, and to warn others of the damage that those who tolerate them will inevitably suffer. No matter how broadly I may agree with them on many conclusion-principles (their reasoning is terrible but that's another topic), it has been proven without a reasonable doubt that any organization with an anarchist in it is going to be less useful and effective than those with none. So if you want any progress towards liberty in your lifetime, it is all but compulsory to start by identifying anarchists and purge them from the political system.
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    11-17-2016, 08:42 AM
    When you back out all the election fraud, Trump won the popular vote by 15%, easily. At least three million illegal aliens cast invalid votes in this election; when you factor in all the vote flipping and account for voting machine fraud as well, I'd wager Clinton got less than 40 million genuine votes total. If the media weren't 100% in her camp, she wouldn't have gotten 10 million. Trump not only has a mandate, but an overwhelming one - overwhelming enough to overcome the combined might of the establishment and the useful idiots that assist it.
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    11-17-2016, 08:09 AM
    Then you'd be for banning Ron Paul himself. Which is no surprise to see on this forum given how radically different it has become from his vision. He specifically calls out the anarchists for being unrealistic, that their ideas require human beings to be perfect, which is something that will never happen. It's the exact same argument that I've been consistently making here all these years... I suppose it's because I'm one of the few who actually listened to him? That's the heart of the matter.
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    11-17-2016, 07:37 AM
    In order for that to be true, he'd have to have been lying to us for an entire career of promoting the Constitution. Is that really your contention? That the liberty movement was fundamentally a lie?
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    11-17-2016, 07:10 AM
    The anarchists took over, drove out most of the libertarians, gradually converted the dominant philosophy from the one espoused by Ron Paul to something very very very very different. And now the place is a running joke with zero real-world relevance except to document the decline and fall of the liberty movement in the face of leadership abdication. The admins can simply go through my ignore list if they want to see who needs to be removed to restore a wisp of credibility. I used to refer people to this site all the time; but in its present condition I would be far too embarrassed to do so.
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    11-17-2016, 06:26 AM
    The creation of this state of affairs here was absolutely 100% intentional (complete with confession by the ringleader). At a certain level of bad blood, and the absence of the tiniest scintilla of remorse by the perpetrators, there is no reconciliation possible. And make no mistake about it - that bad blood was purposely created by one specific set of users here.
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    11-17-2016, 06:21 AM
    I'm requoting your post in its entirety in the hope that additional people will read its very worthy content. Thank you for the first actual defense of the Constitution I've seen on this site for over a year, other than those I've posted myself.
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    11-17-2016, 06:18 AM
    Looks like I've managed to shame another dozen people into grudgingly going on the record as supporters of the Constitution. Of course, just like when Ron Paul told you all to follow the Constitution, the moment the spotlight is off the betrayals and sabotage of the cause of Constitutionalism will resume, when I'm no longer here to shame everyone into it.
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    11-17-2016, 06:16 AM
    More than that, he has been the catalyst for the exposure of a lot more than the media - a whole host of bad actors have revealed themselves by their panicking and tantrums, including the GOP elite and their anarchist allies.
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    11-17-2016, 05:48 AM
    So far, everyone who has bet on Trump succeeding has won yuuuuuge. And everyone who bet against him is in some stage of mental breakdown right now, including the entirely self-interested barbarian wretches who masquerade as liberty activists.
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    11-16-2016, 04:16 PM
    I guess things can look that way when you're playing yet another paladin in Dungeons & Liberty. For people living in and thinking about the actual physical world we all inhabit, the difference is night and day. Reminds me of the old saying: "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; in practice, there is." If in practice, your philosophy requires it to be just as difficult to physically leave the planet as it does to physically cross a national border, that's a glaring failure of the real-world test which any philosophy must ultimately pass, or fail. Let's not be ambiguous: if your philosophy cannot be effectively applied in the real world, it is a literal fantasy.
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    11-16-2016, 03:55 PM
    And how exactly would you go about leaving the jurisdiction of a global government?
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    11-16-2016, 03:44 PM
    Collectivist! ;) You hit the nail on the head there. The key divide on this forum is between those who do believe in liberty for all, and those whose sole interest is liberty for themselves only.
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    11-16-2016, 03:40 PM
    Still only seven RPF members willing to go on the record as supporting the very document championed by Ron Paul as the central touchstone of his political philosophy. That immutable fact is proof positive, something no amount of whining can make go away, that the message of Ron Paul is not only not followed here, but actively despised by its most active members.
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    11-16-2016, 09:17 AM
    This guy would be given the 3rd degree here for his statism.
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    11-16-2016, 09:14 AM
    You're perfectly entitled to hold this opinion. It might even be defensible. But even if it is, it is incontrovertibly in direct opposition to the central message that Ron Paul built the liberty movement on - adherence to the Constitution - and these here are the "Ron Paul forums". So here on Ron Paul forums I can't even get a half dozen others to come out and on the record state that they support the Constitution of the United States when that is the very cause we all gathered here in the first place to promote, the evidence of a hostile takeover is conclusive. You're perfectly entitled to hold your opinion, but if you had any integrity you would admit it is in direct contravention of the central mission of the liberty movement and take it elsewhere. Your presence, and that of those who hold similar anti-Constitutional views, has no effect other than to deny people who want to make the US government adhere to the Constitution a place to organize. If you have a purpose here other than mental masturbation and the injection of chaos into the liberty movement, say it.
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    11-16-2016, 07:55 AM
    I have absolutely nothing good to say about enemies of the US Constitution who attempt to involve themselves in the US political system. Four years ago or eight, any person who couldn't as much as bring themselves to say they supported the US Constitution wouldn't be tolerated here at all. The toxins here are the number of opponents of the Constitution on a website dedicated by name to the philosophy of a person who named himself as the Champion of the Constitution. The toxicity comes from the takeover of RPF by a faction completely opposed to the core message of Ron Paul. I never signed on for anarchist fantasies and neither did most of the people who signed up here.
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    11-16-2016, 02:51 AM
    My vote is obvious, but as I no longer consider myself an RPFer I'm withholding it. As should be the purpose of my posting it, to demonstrate just how far the jackals that have eaten this place alive have strayed from the message of the man who called himself the Champion of the Constitution. All those years he preached adherence to the Constitution as the means to secure our liberty. Was anybody else listening? I see two others so far. Also I notice all the military vets have left here. Guess I can't blame them when the Constitution they swore oaths to is so roundly despised in this forum. We used to have so many! Wonder where they went?
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    11-16-2016, 02:36 AM
    While we're waiting for the answers to roll in, anyone want to speculate on what the results to this question would have been here, four and eight years ago?
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