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    Today, 01:58 PM
    Oh, I see what you're saying. You're right, it doesn't do that job. It's expanded the general welfare clause and many other things. I'm reminded of an old quote that's likely familiar to many here. "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." Only worthy men can be truly free men. Is what it is.
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    Today, 01:28 PM
    Well, you're certainly free to disagree. But I maintain that our government has but one legitimate role. To protect liberty. What other roles are you of the view that our government legitimately possesses? 'splain me, please.
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    Today, 11:24 AM
    We have some anti-federalists around here. HB, AF...several, actually. Pretty sure they're not really trustees in the founders and these documents. Don't know what their thoughts are on the actual papers (and essentially government) but I assume they adhere to the fundamental logic in terms of the rights to Life n Liberty. End of the day, the principal support for Life and Liberty is one's right to his property. And, of course, people are free to make rules for themselves so long as others aren't forced to do the same as them. Freedom of choice for Individuals as well as groups of Individuals...
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 11:17 AM
    Really, I think you'd need to provide a fundamental lesson about what the rights to Life and Liberty mean. If the 2A isn't understood, then fundamentals are missing. This is a case where he's talking to someone who truly doesn't not understand what Individual Liberty means. And, of course, this is really the only role of the government. To defend liberty.
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    Today, 10:40 AM
    Sure. Read 1-12 here. - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?493927-The-American-Ideal-of-1776-The-Twelve-Basic-American-Principles They're all very short. 28 and 46 are specifically referenced throughout. Actually, most Federalist Papers are placed into proper dialogue. It's much easier and you'll benefit greatly by going that route instead of me fragmenting things. You could start with principle 6. Decentralized govt. both 28 and 46 are mentioned there. Also, principle 5 those two are discussed. But for a better grasp, I'd start from principle 1 and move down to 12.
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    Yesterday, 11:33 PM
    Oh, and coercion is excluded from that because the enjoyment of the rights to Life and the pursuit of Happiness is not involuntary. There's no such thing as forced brotherly love. If not voluntary, there exists no relationship to the moral and spiritual values underlying the principle of Man's concern for the well-being of his fellow man.
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    Yesterday, 11:24 PM
    Well, you get into the right to Life there. And the pursuit of Happiness, I suppose. To that extent, you have to define the common good or general welfare from the traditional American philosophy of governance. Which is the sum of all Individuals acting voluntarily in their full and separate enjoyment of their equal rights. Defense of these rights could be acted alone or cooperatively based on the traditional philosophy. This is just the cliff notes version.
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    Yesterday, 10:32 PM
    Heh. osan...
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    Yesterday, 04:06 PM
    I hope suzie's okay down there. Looks bad, some of the photos I've seen - Death toll from US storms surges to 15, tornado warnings still in place (PHOTOS)
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    Yesterday, 11:24 AM
    Have you ever read the Book of Jasher? I hadn't. I didn't even know it existed until I found it mentioned in 2 Samuel and Joshua. I suppose you know who Jasher was. To read that offers a much different account than what we've been taught today. It's interesting from a position of pure Bible study. Some writings make a case for women being leaders at the time whereas in other intances the church has defined itself as a masculine entity. It's kind of annoying that the Book is mentioned in the Bible, yet the Book itself is left out. Of course, there are several instances of that happening. I suppose it's true that the winners in history get to write it. Eve ntoday we see this happening as we blow up nations abroad and then rebuild their education centers while strategically leaving our interests and meddling out of the new texbooks.
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    01-20-2017, 11:35 PM
    She has a job. She's a Graphic Designer, Web Designer and a Developer by trade with a client base. Business just ain't booming at a very delicate time in her life. If, however, you know anyone who might be interested in her services and skillset, then please do let her know. She's eager to work - http://www.greatandmightythings.com/ Thank You for your input, Jamesiv1!
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    01-20-2017, 09:40 PM
    Bwaaaaaahaaaahaahaahahahahah
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    01-20-2017, 09:29 PM
    Good riddance.
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    01-20-2017, 08:05 AM
    Cheapest place she can find is just south of the border where it's really cheap. She's heading there Monday to stay with a friend for a month or so but she can't stay there long. Here's the thing. Lily has been a mission worker for many years. (YWAM - Youth With A Mission). Lily's lived out of a suitcase for many years as a mission worker. Mission work doesn't pay. While she's given a large part of her life to others, she's now left in need herself. There's a lot to it. But I'm not going to put her circumstances here. It's not my place, and I don't want to embarrass her. She won't start a thread like this because she doesn't want to have to ask for a handout. But she needs one, guys. I'm serious now. So I told her I'd start one and she can pick up with it. What she's done is put up a gofundmepage. Here it is - https://www.gofundme.com/lilys-great-and-mighty-mission-fund I don't do causes. I never have. But I do help human beings. And although I personally believe in much of her cause, helping to put a roof over her head when she truly needs help with it is why I'm sharing this. And it needs to be asked that way if it's to be asked here in our particular circle. That's all I'm going to say about it here. Lily can chime in. In fact, she likely will. A couple of people here who know the circumstances have helped her out with what they could. And this is certainly appreciated more than can be said. But she needs a miracle of sorts.
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    01-18-2017, 10:35 PM
    Y'all think too much into this stuff.
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    01-18-2017, 11:50 AM
    Personally, I don't even see anything wrong with what he did. Especially when we have congressmen being paid thousands of dollars to introduce industry penned legislation that would strategically void our most fundamental foundations for the rghts to life and Individual Liberty, like freedom of choice and things like that and without so much as a peep about it.
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    01-18-2017, 11:44 AM
    Political corruption, to be clear, is a consequence of acting/judging/legislating/reporting on the assumption that we are a Democracy. We're not. And this judge should know that. This popularized language annoys me greatly. "...our democracy"...and I read/hear it placed into dialogue this way more and more these days. Particularly by people of authority. He didn't say foundations of democracy. He said foundation of our democracy. Like it's our form of government. It isn't. People like this judge are the problem. He's in dire need of re-education. Anyway. I'll share the distinction for the benefit of the casual passer-by - An Important Distinction: Democracy versus Republic
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    01-18-2017, 05:53 AM
    The NAP? ...Why isn't Bachmannís campaign involved with this as well then?
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    01-18-2017, 04:57 AM
    So you forfeit your rights to your trash once placed around a publicly accessible space. The city claims ownership of such trash, but only so far as such items hold inherent value. Yet the city claims you are responsible to remove all items and trash dumped on or around the premise of your property without your permission or knowledge. I feel like logic has itself broken here.
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    01-17-2017, 09:12 PM
    Yeah. I suppose you're right. As it is, I'm enthusiastically curious about some of Trump's moves thus far. That dude might turn out to be another Reagan before it's said and done. Executively speaking. Now let me get out of here before I get pelted with fruit. :cool:
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    01-17-2017, 09:05 PM
    SCOTUS really is the main thing as far as what I'm personally interested in changing. So this is particularly encouraging.
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    01-17-2017, 04:35 PM
    NCLiberty is suaaaave...
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    01-17-2017, 04:33 PM
    Uh...let me think...no. Not going.
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