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    07-18-2017, 07:56 PM
    This is what you get when you allow your children to be taught by the #goonerment #goonsquad...
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    07-18-2017, 07:55 PM
    Goons gonna goon Winnie??? Now it's time to fight back!!!
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    07-18-2017, 07:54 PM
    Of course they will increase thievery... Is anyone surprised by this?? Goons gonna goon...
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    07-18-2017, 07:51 PM
    First I've heard of George... How long until he commits "suicide"??
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    07-18-2017, 11:58 AM
    Immigrant kills immigrant... For those who claim that only "citizens" have rights, no harm no foul? Right?
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    07-17-2017, 06:45 AM
    I don't understand how a "liberty" type person can be so closed minded!! I cited a "single case" (R.J Reynolds - you even quoted it). Don't bother (again) quoting your 3 (three) cases that pale in comparison to it. Use a good search engine and you will find many many more. You say you prefer "facts" and I've provided our own experience with thousands of patients over a period of 14 years (that's "facts"). Experiences are facts and someone who understands the fight against our liberty should be well aware of the tricks used in publications (like JAMA) to twist facts into propaganda. If you are so afraid of dying in the hospital I suggest that if you are injured and bleeding you don't go there... You will be so much safer...
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    07-16-2017, 10:25 PM
    26 Billion against R.J. Reynolds Tobacco comes to mind. You add all 20 of your pharma cases above and they don't even come close. If you want to specify only "criminal" then the Glaxo one above was (something like) 1.6 billion for criminal penalty (but who's counting?) There are so many more cases in the billions all you have to do is google it if you want more... Your JAMA reference is totally worthless. They give a number claiming "deaths" but the don't specifically say that the "deaths" came about by patients using their prescribed medicine AS DIRECTED or were people purposely using drugs not prescribed to them and dosing higher than instructions say?? I suspect these are very cooked numbers and the number of deaths attributed to drugs used as directed by a doctor are pretty small. We have over 15,000 patients and we know of no such cases. We have a "free" subscription to JAMA that comes to our office every month. It goes straight to the trash. There just isn't much good info there... Hospital deaths due to medical errors the 3rd leading cause in the US?? Common sense tells you this is a fabricated number. "Based on an analysis of prior research, the Johns Hopkins study estimates that more than 250,000 Americans die each year from medical errors."... That sounds like another way of saying "Hell, we don't know but I'll shoot this huge number out there so we can get some press"...
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    07-16-2017, 07:21 PM
    Wait... I just used that same list of 20 pharma lawsuits in my last post to prove you wrong. Now you are trying to use it to prove you right??? Did you even read my post?? I stated that this list of 20 "largest" is not the largest suits in the world. Not even close. Add them all together and they don't even equal the ONE lawsuit against big tobacco. (You must have missed this point...) But wait... One can claim they are the biggest "among pharma companies"... Yes, what exactly does that prove? I can present a list of biggest lawsuits against railroad operators. That's nothing more a list against railroad operators... Without actually doing any research on it, I'd say the biggest crooks are the banking industry... but that's just me... P.S. your deaths in 10 years graphic is "sourcing" JAMA 1998. Do you know that?? First I would question the "study" and second, that's some pretty old data...
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    07-16-2017, 06:11 PM
    Yeah, I should have said "no people are stopping you other than the goonerment goonsquad"... We have no argument here as to what a bunch of sheitheads they are...
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    07-16-2017, 05:54 PM
    Yes, yes, I'm so brainwashed... I'm waiting for my latest check from the pharma companies right now so I can make my down payment on my Learjet... Of course the #goonerment alphabet soup agencies are the reason we don't have more choice in medicine. Don't think anyone is arguing otherwise. It's certainly not the doctors who want to have your choices limited. The pharma companies?? They do what all companies are supposed to do - make money for their shareholders. Of course they don't want you to chose pot over their expensive options. At any rate, I hope if you are ever in a situation where you are in great pain you let the doctors prescribe opiates or anything else that will help you ease your pain. Munching on an herb isn't going to cut it in that situation. If and when your body is back in order, you can use any kind of health routine you like. Putting your broken back in order will be done by a doctor... (oh, and there will be drugs from big pharma there helping you cope...) P.S. I just did a search on largest lawsuits and guess what?? They weren't pharma related... Where do you get this stuff?? The "top 20" pharma lawsuits don't even add up to the tobacco suit...
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    07-16-2017, 05:45 PM
    Oh my God... Such nonsense! Have you actually been to med school?? Of course they teach prevention. Half of what my wife does with her patients is all about prevention. She is hardly alone as that's what is the focus of primary care medicine. Some of you just have a bone to grind and don't want to believe that medicine helps people. Pretty much every doctor I've heard talk about patient care has stated that if you have a good response with some undocumented treatment then continue with that. No doctor I know thinks they know everything about the human organism. Want alternative treatment? Go for it. No one is stopping you. In fact both me and my wife use some forms of "alternative" treatments for aliments and we recommend them to our friends and her patients when appropriate. Peace and Liberty brother...
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    07-16-2017, 03:11 PM
    Hey. I'm not your enemy here. Learn how to read what is being written. You can go back and see that I've never stated that there is not an addiction problem. In fact I've pointed out that we've always had a problem. What I've been disputing throughout this thread is the claim that people in the healthcare system are somehow to blame. THAT issue is pure bs pumped out by people who have an agenda that's anti Liberty. Do you disagree?
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    07-16-2017, 08:11 AM
    By "we" are you indicating you have a position with the Health Impact News organization? And you insinuate that you think the CDC is corrupt (since you provided the link) and yet your previous point was supported by information you obtained from this same CDC...
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    07-15-2017, 10:39 PM
    And this is the true purpose for the #goonerment #goonsquad...
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    07-15-2017, 10:04 PM
    Yeah, I count those "health organizations" as fake news. They have an agenda and they mean to trick people into helping them achieve it. I'm sure they appreciate your help.
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    07-15-2017, 10:02 PM
    Talk about "straw men"... Just bring up the pharmaceutical cartel and try to paint anyone who disagrees with you with that brush. How does goonerment propaganda achieve ANY purpose? They scare the weak minded into thinking they NEED them to fix their problems. Time for you to wake up and smell some Liberty...
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    07-15-2017, 07:25 AM
    No one is trying to say there is no drug problem! Of course there is (and pretty much always has been). We can all see that with our own eyes. What I "doubting" is the fake numbers coming from the fake news. If you want to believe them that's entirely up to you. I'm just putting this out there so others don't follow down the fake news road. Am I right about my position? I really don't know. I do know that for 40 years or so "doubting" what I read in the news has put me on the right side of reality more often than not so that's where I stand. If those numbers turn out to be real (I doubt it) then I'll admit that I was wrong. Until such time I shall continue to sow doubt on vague "studies" that are worded in generalities...
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    07-14-2017, 11:00 PM
    Um... yeah, that's it. I'm part of a "conspiracy". I'm hiding the "facts" so that my pharma buddies can make some big bucks... Your "source" has an ax to grind and I don't trust them any more than I trust the goonerment or big pharma. I'm using something called "common sense" which is filtered by my personal experiences or the experiences of people I know and trust. These kinds of studies are almost always pushing an agenda and this one seems to qualify. There's an old saying: "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics..." 33,000 deaths and only "about" half are prescription?? Care to show the real numbers?? I have no idea what those real numbers are but I know how to read between the lines. So we have 16k "prescription" deaths?? First of all that's a pretty small percentage of people on prescription meds and secondly they don't further specify if the "prescription" medication was actually prescribed for the person who died or were the drugs stolen or sold on the "free" market to others who abused them? I suspect there's quite a bit of that going on, how about you??
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    07-14-2017, 09:13 AM
    When all is said and done these "400 individuals" will likely result in one doctor and one pharmacist losing their license and no one going to jail. And the reason?? Because it was all BS to begin with...
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    07-13-2017, 09:45 PM
    Not a bad choice and if that's the one you make, more power to you. I'll tell everyone some stories about some of my wife's patients who had cancer and whether they survived any length of time (we all die - no news there). She had a couple of patients who did not want conventional medicine so they went to Mexico for "alternative" treatment. One patient came back a year later and his cancer had spread to every organ in his body and there was nothing left but to load him up on drugs until he died. That's one fantastic part of modern medicine, you no longer have to die in pain. 100 years ago cancer patients died very slow and agonizing deaths. Not very pretty and nothing I'd wish on any of you. Some other patients had no change in their cancer which is a positive outcome (even though they eventually died from it). In my own case I had prostate cancer 5 years ago and opted for robotic surgery. I'm doing fine today and if I had chosen to do nothing (it is one of the options presented) I'd most likely be dead today. So are there "alternative" treatments that work?? I think there are some promising ones. The issue is finding the right one for your particular cancer and hoping to God that you are not wasting precious time using these treatments. If the cancer continues to spread (that's what it does) you will eventually get to the point where no doctor will treat you because it's pointless. That's when you seek a good hospice provider to control your pain until you pass. Want to try "alternatives"? Go ahead. Don't cry too hard if it doesn't work. You had a choice to make and you need to accept your outcome. When it comes time to pass to the spirit world go with courage accepting the outcome of your choices. Quite frankly I had decided when I went in for surgery that if I'd died, I was prepared and ready to go. Turns out that operating table deaths are so extremely rare that it shouldn't even go through your head. I think maybe 1 in 100k (I'm guessing here but it's very rare)...
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    07-13-2017, 09:25 PM
    We don't know of ANY doctor that's not. You cannot practice long in this lawsuit crazy society if you are not triple careful. I think there's a lot of nonsense going around about "bad doctors" and I do not see it. If I do, I'll be the first to sound the alarm. The worst I've seen is a couple of doctors who are not as qualified as they should be but I've never seen any case of doctors deliberately pumping pills. This is not to say it NEVER happens (that would be foolish) but I am saying that in my opinion this is way overblown (perhaps because the goonerment goonsquad has some hand in it?) Besides, I thought this was a LIBERTY forum. Don't people here want liberty?? Doesn't that mean you OWN yourself?? Doesn't that mean you should be able to put anything in your body you want. You should be free to see any doctor you want. This means if you want to see a doctor that gives you vials of morphine and tells you to drink it straight from the bottle you should have the right to see this "doctor". This means that if you want to see a witch doctor who tells you that you can cure your cancer by eating a bowl of newt's eyes by the full moon then you should have that right... Liberty has danger. Liberty means you better check out your doctor and see if others are satisfied. Liberty means that if you are hopeless and no "modern" medicine can cure you you should be able to experiment with ANYTHING you want at your own risk.
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    07-13-2017, 09:06 PM
    Why do people think that if they get a shot of morphine they will instantly become hooked?? That's not the way pain killing medicine works. You can use (as prescribed) for pain and you will not get "hooked". This is just people afraid of something they don't understand. Opium has been used for pain for 1000's of years and it works quite well. If you use it too much, you will be hooked. Again, you have to use it for quite a while and in increasing dosages to ramp up to an addiction. It's gotten to the point where some of my wife's hospice patients (you know, the kind who are actively dying) will be concerned about getting "hooked". THEY'RE DYING!!! They don't have time to get "hooked" and why would that even come across their minds?? It's because of all the nonsense going around (compliments of the #goonerment #goonsquad) that these things are bad... and before someone says I don't understand the risk I do - YOU CAN GET HOOKED if you don't follow instructions. If you follow instructions you will get through your pain (if your body will heal) and you will be able to stop when needed. Your doctor will keep a close watch on your consumption, believe me...
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    07-13-2017, 05:24 PM
    We are part of the medical community and I see none of this kind of behavior. If anything we see the opposite. There are many many people out there with serious pain issues and they can't get the "good stuff" because doctors are afraid of the goons taking their license. If you are on the prescribing side you would see that doctors are frantically tying to find relief for people with chronic pain. They will send longtime patients who have a new back injury to a "pain clinic" because they will be "investigated" if they write "too many" prescriptions. Quite frankly, I have to question whether this story is a bunch of BS from the goons to scare providers into writing even LESS then they currently do. 400?? Let me see the names, or at least the jurisdictions and some numbers per jurisdictions. I think they are making a mountain out of a molehill and shame on those who claim to be "woke up" for believing this story without any meat to it...
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