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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    Today, 11:15 PM
    Please explain to me how to rewrite or repeal section 230 in a way that doesn't expose RonPaulForums.com to liability.
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    Today, 11:08 PM
    You mean like Jeff Sessions, Mike Pompeo and John Bolton? Oops...my bad. Wrong administration. :rolleyes:
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    Today, 11:06 PM
    Hmmmm...."Good faith." Here's where things get sticky. Back in 2016 Facebook was hauled in front of congressional committees to answer for there "misdeeds" of "not reigning in Russian bots" that were "hacking the election." And of course the pressure is ramping up to "reign in" the "Q-Anon terrorists" that caused the January 6th "insurrection." Before 2016 the issue was how to stop ISIS from "radicalizing using social media." And no. It doesn't come down to section 230. That's a red herring. This very forum would not survive section 230 repeal. Not even a redefinition of "good faith." I explain that over and over again and nobody seems to get it. The problem with big corporate tech is....it's big corporate tech. If Facebook had the size and scope of RonPaulForums.com nobody would give a rat's ass how arbitrarily they ran their website. But they aren't that size and scope. They are a huge mega-corporation. Corporate person-hood is the problem. And when you have multiple corporations operating as a trust, sharing data and conspiring to control as much of the sector as possible, that's a violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust act. There is already a vehicle in place to deal with this situation that doesn't get into the impossibly vague question of WTH "good faith" means.
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    Today, 10:53 PM
    Right. Section 230 limited liability isn't the problem. If there was real competition this wouldn't even be an issue. Anti-trust laws are meant to keep real competition going. If corporations weren't getting a better deal than sole proprietorships then all businesses would be sole proprietorships or at the very least the largest businesses would be sole proprietorships. These people aren't stupid. LOL @ what the government "rakes in in taxes." How much tax did Donald Trump pay last year? Dividends are taxed at a lower rate than income. That's why Warren Buffet's secretary pays a hire tax rate than he does. And LOL at the "owners of a business are individuals as well that should have the identical protections as any other individual" argument. They have greater protections by the fact that they can shield themselves from liability from their bad corporate decisions. Really, I think you're dealing with cognitive dissonance. You can't wrap your mind around the obvious. Unbridled corporate power is a problem. The problem exists because corporate power is, by definition, an extension of government power. The lobbyists for the corporations help draft the laws and they are not drafting those laws to oppress themselves. They draft them to oppress you.
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    Today, 10:42 PM
    I was out at some Rallies in Olympia Wa..2nd amendment and Reopen the State.. Posted some here,, One of the groups was Prayer Group. after prayers a lady waked up to me and said I looked like the most Peaceful person there.. (BLEW ME AWAY), that has not been my common description , it was pleasant as it is rare.
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    Today, 10:32 PM
    There are already several controlled opposition groups to be a part of,,just join any group?? Just Don't think for yourself. and don't seek like minded..:( YMMV
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    Today, 10:23 PM
    I have seen the later.. in locations. The Keys years ago being one. And am hoping pockets of liberty remain. 1n 1995 when I turned my Wanted Self in,, the lower Monroe County SWAT Unit did not want to arrest me. Did not believe the alias they knew was the real person I was. Sat on a cruiser. Drank a 40 Oz.. Showed the guys my Tattoos and has them compare to description.
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    Today, 08:30 PM
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/01/22/lloyd-austin-sworn-in-as-first-black-defense-secretary-in-us-history/?sh=715ab23e19cc
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  • Matt Collins's Avatar
    Today, 08:28 PM
    The left is colonizing red local towns: https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/13/leftists-are-colonizing-red-towns-like-mine-and-local-republicans-are-clueless/ Here is a TED-Talk about how progressives should literally leave cities, invade small towns, run for office, and take over. Didn't realize this was actually a strategy, but apparently it is. And it explains a lot!
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    Today, 08:26 PM
    How ideologically polarized Americans live different lives: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/06/13/big-houses-art-museums-and-in-laws-how-the-most-ideologically-polarized-americans-live-different-lives/ Is the migration good for choice or for polarization? https://reason.com/2020/10/19/americans-are-moving-where-they-want-to-live-will-that-be-a-victory-for-choice-or-for-polarization/
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    Today, 08:24 PM
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    Today, 08:23 PM
    Explanation of people leaving NYC: https://nypost.com/2020/08/11/a-mad-rush-for-the-exits-as-new-york-city-goes-down-the-tubes/ Market Watch says NYC is "dead forever?" https://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-york-city-is-dead-forever-according-to-one-lifelong-new-yorker-2020-08-16?siteid=yhoof2
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    Today, 08:22 PM
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    Today, 08:22 PM
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    Today, 08:22 PM
    Here is a great article explaining why people are leaving cities: https://humanevents.com/2020/07/23/goodbye-washington-dc/
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    Today, 08:21 PM
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    Today, 05:09 PM
    Is my solution to what? Facebook and Twitter? I'm not following you. What I know is this. We do not live in a free market and this country really never has been a true free market. There are aspects of the free market and there are aspects of government control. Trying to make everything fit into a free market lens is not practical. Look at HIPPA. That's government regulation that keeps healthcare providers from selling your private data. OMG! Regulation! Must be evil right? Well....no. No it's not. It is a GOOD thing that there at least some of my personal data that a corporation (or anybody else) collects from me is at least somewhat protected. Someone recently posted a thread about the military buying aggregated cell phone data that's available on the free market without a warrant. Totally constitutional. Maybe a federal law could be passed to keep the U.S. military from being allowed to buy that data, but that wouldn't keep the Chinese government from buying it. As for patents.....do you know why they exist? Hint, it's not to protect the patent holder. It's so the patent holder will make his invention available to the rest of the country so that when the patent runs out other people can make the invention. Sometimes that's good. Sometimes patents are abused. (Drug companies gouging people way past what they need to make a profit just because they have a patent on a life saving drug.) Here is the bottom line. Once one realizes that we don't really live in a free market, one can look at the broader issue of freedom! My freedom is not diminished if Facebook an, Google and Twitter get in trouble for secretly sharing data about who they are going to de-platform. Now repealing Section 230 of the CDA would affect my freedom because website, like this one, they I visit from time to time could get shut down without Section 230 CDA protection. That's it. It's simple freedom calculus. It's not hard to figure out.
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    Today, 04:40 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread Rand 2024? in Rand Paul Forum
    Only a subset of those who voted for Trump believe the election was stolen and a smaller subset of that wanted to fight after the electoral college vote. That said the "always Trumpers" will be a formidable force in 2024.
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    Today, 04:34 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread Rand 2024? in Rand Paul Forum
    :rolleyes: Matt, seriously? It's one thing to say "Well the vaccines out there so you can take it if you want." It's another thing to take taxpayer dollars and direct those dollars to purchasing the vaccine and direct those purchases to people who are most likely to die from taking that vaccine. This is even worse than the "bully pulpit" argument that acptulsa pointed out. Your argument is like saying "Well if the government doesn't pay for abortions and advocate for women having abortions than women are being denied abortions."
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    Today, 04:30 PM
    An LLC is a corporation. And there are limits to individual bankruptcy. If your LLC or corporation goes bankrupt, typically your personal assets aren't touched. A corporation you 100% own can go bankrupt and it not affect your credit. That's not at all true for personal bankruptcy. When the business model is dependent upon the largess of government. For example, a patent is, by definition, anti free market. So is copyright. It's got nothing to do with the size of the business per se, but government largess allows business to grow larger than they otherwise would. Free market depends in part on risk. The more owners are shielded from risk the less accountable they become. That's the problem Consider an actual case involving Section 230 of the CDA. Prodigy, an online service from the 1990s, was sued over a libelous message that one of their users posted. The state court found them libel because Prodigy had deleted some messages which, according to the state court's logic, made them an "editor" because they were exercising "editorial control." Prodigy countered that they had 60,000 messages a day and couldn't monitor all of them. They still lost. That's what prompted the passage of Section 230 in the CDA. Congress wanted online services to have a freehand to take down "offensive material" without being opened up to liability. Really Prodigy had a better defense than would RonPaulForums.com if Section 230 was repealed. RPF can't claim there is such a volume of messages that they couldn't all be moderated.
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    Today, 04:12 PM
    The precedent for what happened to Parler already happened to Gab. For the life of me I don't understand why people didn't see that coming. Parler is (was?) a centralized application / platform. It was just owned by conservatives. True decentralized applications aren't owned by anyone. In contrast to Parler, there are different Mastodon servers. Taking down Mastodon would be like trying to get rid of email.
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    Today, 03:21 PM
    Matt Collins replied to a thread Rand 2024? in Rand Paul Forum
    Well he can't deny it to them.
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  • pcosmar's Avatar
    Today, 02:22 PM
    Was from the beginning. CIA and "Q" claimed to be a long time CIA insider. A Spook.. claiming to be a "good" spook. never trust such
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    Today, 12:29 PM
    Actually the ACLU has been talking about the threat coming from big data for some time now. As for needing a warrant? Well....technically it's not needed from what you've described. If your data is already publicly available, the government doesn't need a warrant to get it. Case in point, the government can't force you to give a DNA sample without a warrant, but if a government agent sees you spit your gum into the trash he can dumpster dive and get it without a warrant. (I know of a case where that happened). What needs to change? I hate to say it, but this is a case where more regulation is needed. Thanks to HIPPA, your healthcare provider isn't allowed to sell a database with "user identifiable information" in it. Technology companies should not be able to sell user identifiable location information either. Just because I want to know what the weather is where I live or I want turn by turn directions to a particular location doesn't mean that I should have to allow that information to be sold. It's not just the government that should not be able to buy that. Say private investigators started selling "enhanced background checks" where individuals could buy a map of where I had been for the past week or month or year? Why should that be okay just because the entity buying the information isn't the government? Imagine a stalker buying that information? Of course that begs the question if the information the DIA is buying is "user identifiable." If all they are able to find out is "There are a lot of people that congregate downtown between these hours on these particular days of the week" I'm not bothered by that.
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    Today, 11:49 AM
    Corporations are anti free market by definition. Corporations are government licenses to be able to have unlimited growth with limited liability. In your OP you said: "I think the idea of government granted liability protections seems like a bad idea to begin with." Well...that's exactly what a corporation is. The "platform liability" that people usually complain about here also applies to this forum. The owners have the right to edit user posts, remove user posts, and "de-platform" users. That still doesn't mean the forum owners should be sued if a user posts something that is libel. Allowing, in general, websites to be sued for libel just because they moderate content is not a good idea. However Facebook, Twitter and Google have gone beyond that. They have conspired with each other (now proven) to coordinate their efforts to de-platform. That is not free market. Not even kind of. Parler tried to get around this by creating their own platform as Gab had done before. Predictably Parler has suffered the same fate as Gab. The "platform" being "de-platformed." If evidence comes forward that Apple, Google and Amazon conspired to de-platform the Parler platform that is also anti free market and a violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. Now, let's take a closer look at your solution. I would think in a free market, no web site would ever be automatically immune from liability, but the web site could require their members to sign a waiver saying something like "I understand Facebook is not responsible for the postings of it's members and I waive my right to sue."
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    Today, 11:32 AM
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to belian78 again.
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    Today, 11:26 AM
    Worse. They are now an embarrassment. In blue states the democrats are the government from the local all the way up to the federal including the both houses of Congress. So anyone in a blue state being "anti government" is not being anti-Democrat. Everybody was bracing for right wing violence on January 20th and instead there was left wing violence. Kamala Harris as a prosecutor put a lot of black men in prison and kept many of them there longer than they legally should have been. You can't be pro police state the way the far left is and really be "anti-cop."
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    Today, 11:16 AM
    jmdrake replied to a thread Rand 2024? in Rand Paul Forum
    The vaccine of course. You can protect someone from getting the virus by making sure he/she is not exposed. That's the whole point of herd immunity. Individual members of the herd don't need to have immunity to be protected from the virus. He is making it available to the group that's at the highest risk from dying from the vaccine itself. I'm not sure why that isn't sinking in.
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    Today, 11:14 AM
    When I was stranded in Oregon,,for the last election I met several Local Farmers,,lifelong Democrats,,that were voting for Trump because they could not stand Hillary.. Conservative democrats have not been seen nor heard in a while. The Whack Jobs are at the Helm. and the Bernie Bros are Still Trashing everything in an On Going Temper Tantrum.
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