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    Today, 12:30 PM
    Just a reminder about the meaning of "FAKE NEWS": May 28, 2022 Independent: Ukraine news – live: Russia has depleted its modernised equipment, military analyst says Now, switch on your gray splatter for a second and ask yourself this: how likely is it that Russia has "depleted" its "modernized equipment"? What the hell even is "modernized equipment"?! Does Russia not manufacture brand new, modern military equipment? Or are they still wrenching on 1970-model T-72s, trying to order spare parts from somewhere in Belgium and cursing the heavens in a vodka-induced rage when the parts are "blockaded" by NATO? Seriously? I don't trust Putin any further than I could throw a Russian T-90 tank, but he's not an idiot. The idea that the Russians are pinned down and frittering away their tanks or troops on a rum-headed land invasion of Ukraine is utter nonsense. The entire narrative is obviously fabricated out of whole cloth, nothing about it is real or true at all. Not one bit of it! So, now ask yourself this: Why should anyone believe anything at all that is reported by the same media that has been repeatedly proven to lie and stage false-flag events on domestic soil, and which is CURRENTLY lying its face off about "the war in Ukraine", to the point that even a young child can work out that they're blatantly lying to you -- right there on their official MSMBS.com websites? Why is anything they say believable? "Oh, you're just exaggerating. Yes, the news might be biased at times, but they're not making things up or suppressing events that actually happened. That would be impossible because they'd get caught." Well, suit yourself...
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    Today, 11:00 AM
    No. What I believe is that the US Media are proven liars. Switch off your searching-for-the-next-Alex-Jones circuits for a moment and actually read what I wrote for comprehension. How the hell can I have any substantial opinion about "what really happened" in Uvalde when I have zero reliable information? By zero, I mean zero. The Boy Who Cried Wolf is informing me in no uncertain terms that there's "really, REALLY" a wolf this time, and he even has cell-phone footage of the wolf... but so what, he's a proven liar. Maybe there really is a wolf. Maybe not. It's all the same to me. Proven liars are liars and I'm not going to jump through the flaming emotional circus-hoops anymore. Not until the ring-master is dragged out into the sunlight and hanged, for real.
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    Today, 10:56 AM
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    Today, 09:53 AM
    Sure, of course. When I step outside and it's raining, I know that the weatherman is certainly not spouting fake news. But that's not my point. In the case of rain, I know the weatherman is telling the truth because it's freaking raining. How are you suddenly "just knowing" that this is not yet another Fake News MSMBS PSYOP? I just want to know how you guys divine this stuff? Should I be using a water-witcher, or a crystal ball? What are the secret paths of divination by which folks here somehow "just know" that all these other events are fake, but this one event just happens to be completely real, no PSYOP whatsoever? The Boy Who Cries Wolf was just getting a laugh at our expense all those other times, but this time, there really was a wolf. How do you know that? I don't trust proven liars whether or not they are telling the truth. This may be a 100% real event. Or it may be 100% fake. Or something more complicated. But I don't care. The MSMBS have already shot their credibility to sh!t, so I will not play along with the emotional manipulation any longer. And yes, that is tragic, because that means I just don't give a damn. Go see my thread on the darker side of darkness. The moment the Media started toying with FAKE news, they threw their own credibility out the window. Until something changes, I'm not shedding another damn tear over anything I see in a news article or on the MSMBS FAKE news channels. If the karmic penalty for that is that nobody sheds a tear at my funeral, so be it. The lesson here is dead simple: PROVEN LIARS CANNOT BE BELIEVED WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE TELLING THE TRUTH. I don't buy that anymore. It is not just a pull-mechanism, it is a push-pull mechanism. No, it's not as simple and straightforward as all of the tinfoil-hat people believe. But it's intentional and it is driven for specific purposes, political and especially spiritual. This is demonic and that's the real reason you can't find "proof". Spirits are invisible and intangible.. they don't leave fingerprints.
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    Today, 09:39 AM
    Yeah, the "we" here was just rhetorical. But you're missing my point -- given that we know for certain that the MSMBS are the Boy Who Cried Wolf (FAKE NEWS), and given that this event was quite obviously timed to coincide with the NRA convention (and the MSMBS News predictably leveraged it for that political purpose), how do you "just know" that this event isn't 100.0% staged?? If there are no dead children at all, if there are no grieving parents at all, if this entire event is a manufactured FAKE NEWS event, then why all of the consternated looks and hand-wringing over this "tragedy"? In that case, the only tragedy is -- once again -- the psychological trauma being foisted on the American public by the American arm of the Soviet Pravda. In this thread, the "ACAB" participants are all predictably jumping on the bandwagon for their chance to take a dump on cops, without even considering the possibility that perhaps they're being led around by the nose by a propaganda machine which has already factored in their predictable responses to this event. Conspiracy theory, I hear someone say? Don't use that word with me when we have caught the MSMBS in countless proven lies, not about minor details, but about "witness" personas, whole events, timelines, and everything else. Notice how the traitorous, Enemy of the People MSMBS is all locked onto "THE TIMELINE". What timeline? If this was a PSYOP -- and every indication is that it was a PSYOP -- then who's to say that the Uvalde police were not as much a target of that PSYOP as the rest of us? I just don't understand how people flip in one thread from denouncing the MSMBS as the Enemy of the People, then the following day, they are lapping up every soundbite and every "clip" of "footage" from "parents" who were "held back" by "police". NPCs walk among us?
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    Yesterday, 07:47 PM
    In the wake of the mass killing of schoolchildren in Uvalde, a lot of conservatives and libertarians are aflame with something that we might call cynical resistance to the standard narrative. The standard narrative has become so blatant that it is virtually impossible to understand events like Uvalde in any other light than their political usefulness. And this is an extremely troubling and sobering thought -- if it is the case that someone is somehow able to orchestrate such events, then what does this say about the true nature of darkness in the world? Are we even one step more "evolved" than the ancient Minoans or Phoenicians who slaughtered children in pagan ritual offerings to the deity Molech and to other pagan gods, then feasted on their flesh? If an event like Uvalde can be orchestrated, and this is done for political purposes, what is that except a ritual mass child sacrifice? But the fact is that we (the general public) simply don't have the information required to determine which is which. There is no proof that would be suitable for admission as evidence in a courtroom that this was orchestrated. Yes, the gun-grabbers never fail to leap on a political opportunity but leveraging opportunities does not prove premeditation or accomplice in the event itself. So we are left with this insoluble darkness -- every indication would lead any rational and skeptical individual to conclude that, indeed, mass school shootings are somehow being intentionally perpetrated as a kind of ritual child sacrifice meant to satiate the gods and bring about favorable political conditions for disarming the American public. But there's no proof. Notice that this pattern has been repeated countless times in the headlines since the 1990's when the modern template of "mass shootings are caused by guns, and so we need to ban/seize guns" first emerged in the US. One explanation is the old quote about insanity -- insanity is repeating the same thing again and again and expecting different results. But I don't like assuming that my enemy is insane. In fact, a truly clever enemy will act insane for the purposes of lulling you into a false sense of safety, then strike when you least expect it. No, something in this explanation is not right. And that leads us to the darker side of darkness. Mass spiritual trauma is itself a kind of sacrifice. Sure, you are not physically killing anyone, but you are killing their soul, or at least a little piece of it. I realized this when I lived in a downtown area for about six months. One day, as I was walking past the block-long row of homeless flying spare-change signs, I was overcome with an immense feeling of unmitigated fury. I was not angry at these people who, no matter their reasons for asking for money, were certainly not in very good circumstances. No, something else was bothering me. And then it struck me that what was really bothering me was that being forced to walk past these signs on a daily basis, looking into people's faces and eyes, and realizing that there was nothing I could possibly do to really help them, I was being psychologically conditioned to callousness towards my fellow man. And this is the insight that leads into understanding the darker side of darkness. The politicians talk about the homeless as if the homeless are the problem. But the homeless are just a symptom of the problem. The problem is somewhere else, out of sight. Where the homeless congregate in a city -- particularly in a downtown area -- is not random. They are like birds... they will settle down wherever they are not shooed away. And who does the shooing? It is the city's police or other agencies that are tasked with shooing them off of sidewalks, park benches, and so on. So when you walk past the row of homeless in your downtown district, that is not an accident or happenstance. Those people are present because they are not shooed away. They themselves are not the problem. Most of them really are unfortunates...
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    Yesterday, 07:12 PM
    Deep State: "Yo, libertarians! We gotta doggie treat called School Shootings Happen Because All Cops Are Bastards! Come and get it!" Libertarians:
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    Yesterday, 07:05 PM
    Really? That's what we're going with? This is a blatantly obvious Obama/Biden/DC/MSMBS PSYOP , and we're just going to accept any random cell phone footage as "proof" of "what went down", as though we have never heard of or seen photos of crisis actors at the Boston Marathon Bombing, Sandy Hook, etc. All of that stuff is now "crazy kooky conspiracy theory". Not fog-of-war, PSYOP. Not CYA, PSYOP. Not police incompetence, PSYOP. Wake up!
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    Yesterday, 06:56 PM
    OK, that's fine. I think that people have become culturally accustomed to police, so they don't understand what you would have in its place. But you're right that what we don't need are thugs living on the public dime, which is what many police departments have become, and even among many non-corrupt police departments, there are still networks of corruption that are too deeply entrenched for them to eradicate. States should be free to choose their own solutions at the State-level, counties employ the sheriff model which has deep roots in common law, and healthy local governments will choose the correct solution for their security needs, whether that be a publicly-funded police department, private security contractors, or some other arrangement. What the D's are doing is, as always, so audacious as to be beyond description. If you commit crimes so heinous that no one would ever believe it is possible that such a crime could be committed, then no one will believe that such crimes are actually happening. And that's exactly what the D's are doing. They don't care about police corruption and they certainly don't want to eliminate their own corrupt cops. In fact, they shamelessly parade their police corruption in public view and then point to it as a reason to strip the rest of the country of their non-corrupt police. Let each State decide for itself how to do State-level security, let each county decide for itself how to perform the sheriff's function, let each local government decide for itself how to produce its security. This is not rocket-science and the founding fathers already built these local freedoms into the Constitution if we would bother to actually follow it...
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    Yesterday, 03:14 PM
    Uvalde is a small town. It is possible that the door had been occasionally propped open for air or some other reason like that, without any reason to believe that a crime like this could occur as a result. Against policy? Probably, but come on, don't pretend that a zillion people violate small policies in small ways all over the country every single day, and the world goes on just fine. I'm spitballing as much as anybody, but beware of jumping to conclusions, especially when you know we're dealing with a PSYOP event. This happened a couple days before the NRA convention by sheeeer coincidence. If the MSMBS says it, it's virtually guaranteed to be false. Check and double-check every single claim. The local officials who had boots on the ground are the single most reliable source. All others are suspect, potential crisis actors (including the "parents"), etc.
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    Yesterday, 03:04 PM
    The knees of the GOP ought to be shaking at the thought of divine judgment, not delusionally imagining itself as the vehicle of divine intervention. No strategy is more effective at stopping the forces of good than securing the cooperation of internal turncoats. As far as I can see, the GOP, certainly at the national level, is packed like sardines with turncoats. Are there a few good apples in the barrel of rotted applesauce vinegar? Perhaps. God does do miracles. But that barrel of rotten apples that we call the GOP has done more damage to liberty than any other single organization in the world. “The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name.” ― Confucius
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    Yesterday, 02:32 PM
    A lot of things should have ended a long time ago. No problem, the final court of appeal is the Great White Throne and it is approaching us on wings of lightning... Well, the Fed is the core of the political rot, but it is not the core of the rot. The core of the rot is spiritual, and it goes allllll the way back to the Snake in the Garden. They may succeed at deflecting the arrows from striking their Fed Idol... but at what cost. The end is inevitable, even more inevitable than death itself... If you really believe all your countrymen are idiots, then of course you will acquiesce to Federal power, because all the "smart" people are already in DC.
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    Yesterday, 02:15 PM
    I'm going to place this here and then wash my hands of this thread--- The folks commenting here that are jumping onto the "ACAB! blame the cops!"-bandwagon have no idea what they're really tangling with. You may have some reason to believe that you have stared into the abyss. I assure you: you have not stared into the real Abyss, no matter what reasons you think you have. If you think this sophomoric Antifa-copycat ACAB mantra is helping the cause of liberty in any way, you are more mistaken than you can even understand. You are literally the dog being wagged. In fact, you are twice-wagged because you imagine yourself to be sophisticated, hard-boiled, informed, cynical and above deception! No, you are twice-blind. When you see the Abyss for real, then you will understand. A fate I do not wish on my worst enemy. Seek Jesus. Salvation is the only way out.
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    Yesterday, 02:02 PM
    Who would have what? Run into a locked steel door? Shot at it and gotten shot? Add one more dead body to the body count. As already pointed out, it turns out that there were still live children in the classroom contrary to the available facts at that time... so if Jose van Damme did manage to heroically kick in the steel door and whip out his 357 Magnum and then Ramos gunned down the remaining kids he was holding hostage as bargaining chips for a showdown with the cops, what then?? Don't parrot MSMBS talking points to me and try to pass it off as independently verified facts. I don't care whether you get them directly or you get them second-hand through the "conservative" social-media network, they're the same talking-points. Did you listen to the whole press-conference that McCraw gave? Hey, the Feds have an unlimited supply of "fog of war" cards that they can deal from their sleeve at any time, so why can't the agencies who responded to the Uvalde shooting? You're calling multiple agencies -- including the Feds -- either incompetent or knowingly hostile. Other than the Biden/Obama/DC/MSMBS/Soros cabal, who benefits from the deaths of these children?
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    Yesterday, 11:41 AM
    The UN has infested DC/FED. DC/FED is now nothing but a political zombie extension of the UN. They are indistinguishable.
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    Yesterday, 11:38 AM
    Here is the direct link to the Facebook page with the video (news website giving me paywall/ad issues). ^^^ TEXAS DPS DIRECTOR, LISTEN TO THIS PRESS CONFERENCE INSTEAD OF MSMBS/DC/FED LIES There were as many as 19 officers on-scene within minutes after the shooting began. There was no "stand-down" order ever given. The MSMBS is feeding you LIES.
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    Yesterday, 11:28 AM
    Of course it is. But who is wagging the dog, here? Does Texas want gun control? Or DC? So whose narrative should you be paying attention to? The MSMBS/FED narrative? Switch off your television and stop reading MSMBS sources. It's 100% lies and garbage. People still have yet to realize the meaning of "fake" in FAKE NEWS. It is impossible to exaggerate the extents that these people will go to in order to LIE.
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    Yesterday, 11:11 AM
    Source? (Not doubting you, just looking for info.)
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    Yesterday, 11:10 AM
    I don't, but what difference does it make? If the shooter is barricaded and armed, the standard operating procedure of any police department will be to get a tactical team on-site. 19 + X is less than 19 + X + Y, where X is remaining innocents in the classroom and Y is responding officers getting themselves killed trying to unlock a steel door the shooter has barricaded himself behind. Were mistakes made by the local police who responded? I don't know, maybe there were. But calling patrol officers back from trying to break the barricade while evacuating the rest of the school was not a mistake. Bringing in a tactical team was not a mistake. Holding parents back from running in and getting shot was not a mistake. Don't fall for yet another WAG THE DOG, folks...
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    Yesterday, 10:53 AM
    I don't believe the local Uvalde Police wanted to increase the death toll of Uvalde children to maximize media impact. That is simply not believable. I do believe that the Feds are playing The Very Most Dangerous Game of All and literally baiting the biblical apocalypse. That I do believe. Think twice before joining Obama/Biden/DC/MSMBS/Soros and dog-piling on the locals...
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    Yesterday, 10:51 AM
    I mean, if the Armalite was invented for Nazi troops, then the Jeep was designed by Hitler... CLOWN WORLD
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    Yesterday, 10:40 AM
    OK, for the sake of argument, let's go with your wholly-imaginary situation that a heroic Federal Border Patrol officer hurried in to the school to single-handedly save the children from a rampaging Ramos who had been picking off children at a rate of one every 3 minutes for an entire hour, meanwhile, the Texas police agencies huddled outside the school, too scared to enter the school-building because they just have no balls. The locals arriving on the scene don't know what was happening inside that building -- in fact, this is one of the reasons that we have government at all. In crisis situations, you really do need a single-voice decision-maker. The "private security contractor" model that libertarians fetishize breaks down in this kind of situation. So, suppose that each family had their own security contractor arriving on scene, each to secure and exfiltrate the child that they are contracted to protect. Ramos pops off one round and they all get into an OK Corral shootout with bullets whizzing 10 ways from Sunday. These kinds of mass confusion fratricidal events have happened countless times in history, and this is one of the reasons that human social order converges on the State. So, even in your hallucinated version of events, the "citizens' arrest" solution doesn't work, because it is an attempt to dismantle the single-voice of government right at the very point where it is actually useful and beneficial to social order. But let's revisit your hallucination and see if there is anything about it that is even slightly believable. The best reports we have from the local authorities is that Ramos entered the building and almost immediately shot almost all the victims, in a single classroom. That part of the shooting was over when the police arrived. Note that, if Ramos had had to change magazines a couple times while shooting, this would not have reduced the death-toll, so this silly nonsense about "assault rifles and high capacity magazines", going on since the 1990s, is absurd. Just a side note. Anyway, after making an initial attempt to enter the building and stop Ramos, they were stopped by the fact Ramos had locked himself behind a steel door and he was firing back at them. So, they evacuated children from other parts of the building, including breaking windows around the building to evacuate children that way. That's what was happening during the hallucinatory "40 minutes of thumb-twiddling". Based on what I'm reading, police were in the building the entire time, so the reports of a "stand-down" are utterly false. I'm unsure if the local police had a tactical team on hand within that time (it doesn't seem so), but the standard-procedure here would be to deploy a tactical team because Ramos was barricaded and armed, so there was no safe way for the police to enter that area of the building. The Federal Border Patrol tactical team is the team that arrived some time later and took the shooter down. What is the big crime on the part of the local police supposed to be here? That they didn't allow local parents to run up to the locked door where Ramos had barricaded himself and get shot?
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    Yesterday, 10:07 AM
    So what? Do you gauge the progress of your troops by looking at what the enemy troops control? Or, even worse, reading and believing enemy psyop pamphlets informing you that "we have you surrounded"? Stop drinking enemy Kool-Aid... DC is a swamp (literally) and I don't think anyone will shed any tears if it just happened to slide off into the Atlantic. We never needed DC for anything. The US is a union of 50 states. After establishing their infinity-cash machine in 1913, the Feds have proceeded to act as if they are Literally God. Well, they're not. They formed the school boards, there was nothing to take over, it was their turf from day one.
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    Yesterday, 09:48 AM
    God is over all. He will decide how long you live or not. The needle-jabbers control nothing except whether they are going to repent or burn forever...
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    Yesterday, 09:41 AM
    Does anyone else in this thread feel uncomfortable dog-piling on the local Texas police, along with Biden/Obama/DC/MSMBS? I'm no fan of the up-armoring of police and excessive police power but you can be sure that, in Texas, the citizens are heavily armed too. So we're not talking about a situation of NYPD or LAPD beating the snot out of unarmed citizens because they feel like letting off a little steam. We simply don't know what happened yet. Based on the information available so far, it appears that the Border Patrol (Feds) actually took Ramos down, so it appears to be a situation where the Feds pre-empted the locals. Not sure how the Feds interfering in the local police response to an ongoing crime is supposed to be the fault of the locals... :rolleyes:
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