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    Today, 09:58 PM
    Dr.3D replied to a thread Officer of the court in Open Discussion
    Maybe they just thought he was goofing off. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fucking%20the%20dog
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    Today, 06:51 PM
    Why does all of this seem like the script of some elaborate show?
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    Today, 06:17 PM
    Yeah, this makes me wonder about all the hype about beet juice and such.
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    Today, 01:03 AM
    What's interesting to me is how easily the public is conditioned/brainwashed. It wasn't even that many years ago that pretty much everyone agreed that transgenderism is a disorder… and now it's being "celebrated." And if you don't agree with that, then you're the bad guy. It reminds me who the temporary ruler of this world is. (John 12:31)
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    Yesterday, 06:19 PM
    Now if only the machines counting the votes can be trusted. Maybe they need the machine to issue a receipt to the voter as verification of how it counted the votes.
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    Yesterday, 06:17 PM
    But alas, that's what this thread is about.
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    Yesterday, 05:52 PM
    Now you are insulting me by placing me as a citizen of that 3rd world country?
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    Yesterday, 03:04 PM
    Yep, and they get paid with stolen money.
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    Yesterday, 02:27 PM
    Now here's one that cheers me up!
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    Yesterday, 02:20 PM
    I get nauseous everytime that horrible avatar appears. Can't help but see those poor young girls being murdered by that monster....
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    Yesterday, 02:10 PM
    Still the point is, it was a weapon of war and I'm sure 18 year old kids could buy one if they wanted one. The CNN chap was absolutely wrong in his statement.
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    Yesterday, 01:21 PM
    Donna, again you're not addressing anything I said. You did that twice now. That's not how I like to debate, because if I'm going to reply to the things you're saying, then I think it's only fair that you would do the same. The Scriptures about the quail are one of the worst things you could have chosen in support of meat eating… That was a curse! The only reason God gave them quail was because they were complaining nonstop, meat was what they were craving, so God gave them what they wanted. Exodus 16:3 And the children of Israel said to them, “Oh, that we had died by the hand of the Lord in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the pots of meat and when we ate bread to the full! For you have brought us out into this wilderness to kill this whole assembly with hunger.”
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    Yesterday, 12:09 PM
    So the Brown Bess wasn't a weapon of war?
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    02-19-2018, 09:37 PM
    Why no response to anything I said in my previous post? It's easy to post scriptures like the one above, but it doesn't negate anything I said. I already mentioned this passage earlier. I was about to go over all the different interpretations of that passage (there are a few, from a vegetarian/vegan perspective) but I honestly was not intending to get into a Bible study tonight, and that is not even the topic of this thread anyway, so we can go into more detail on this at another time, on another thread. For now I'll say this. Picture in your mind a timeline. At the very beginning, you have God's perfect will (peace and harmony among all living beings, no violence, no killing, no meat eating)...And then at the end, when God restores that original design, once again you'll have God's perfect will. Everything in between is a symptom of this fallen world. Not God's perfect will, but in many cases God giving us over to what we want, due to the hardness of our hearts. So when you look at that timeline, and you see on the left and on the right, God's perfect will… and in the middle this fallen world… what should we, as Christians, aim for? Unless it is a matter of survival, why not honor God's original design and His ultimate plan which he is moving us toward, as we speak? Why not think about the condition of mankind overall, and question why there is so much disease, violence, corruption? Perhaps if we go back to how God originally designed us – to be peaceful, non-violent, and to eat a healthy plant-based diet – then we would see a reversal of these diseases and destruction of this beautiful earth God gave us stewardship of. Also, think about the fruit of the Spirit. What is more in line with love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control – a slaughterhouse or a garden? :) Please answer honestly.
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    02-19-2018, 07:45 PM
    Looks like somebody really messed up the landscaping.
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    02-19-2018, 07:02 PM
    Again, the important thing is God's original design/intent, which is the same as God's ultimate plan, as prophesied in Isaiah and other places. Since God does not change, I believe it is wrong to dismiss God's original design by cherry picking verses that may at first glance appear to contradict it. There are a few different interpretations of that verse about Abel and his offering. The mainstream interpretation seems to be that once sin came into the world, that's when sacrifices were introduced, to of course foreshadow Jesus' sacrifice for our sin. Since this represented something very serious and horrible, it was not something to be done lightly. (And btw, nowhere in that text does it say they ate meat. In fact, that verse doesn't say that Abel killed anything, just that he brought God the best of his flock.) There are a couple other views on that passage… But I don't have time right now to get into all of that. Also, I think it's very important to know that God repeatedly said that he has no pleasure in animal slaughter and he never required it. (Psalm 51:16, Hosea 6:6, Jeremiah 7:22, Isaiah 1:11, Matthew 9:13, Hebrews 10:8, Psalm 40:6, Mark 12:33, Jeremiah 32:30, etc.) So when you put all that together – the heart of God, a heart of love, mercy, compassion, along with his very clear words in Genesis 1:29, and the numerous verses about his desire for mercy, not sacrifice…I think it is wrong to assume that God has no problem with what we are doing with animals.
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    02-19-2018, 02:21 PM
    You're bringing up a different topic and I'm not sure what you believe because as Pete said on that other thread, it is all over the place… But it is certainly not the standard Christian belief. As for the verse about Adam naming the animals, that only confirms what I've been saying. God's original design which we saw in the Garden of Eden was peace and harmony, not a slaughterhouse. Adam was to take care of the animals, name them, and nowhere in Genesis 1 did God say "I created animals for you to eat and exploit." Genesis 1:29 is very very clear, don't ignore that verse. Abel being a keeper of sheep does not mean for the purpose of eating them. The Bible is also clear that meat eating wasn't permitted until after the flood, and it is argued that that was only because all the vegetation was dead and there would have been very little to eat at that time. If any meat eating did occur before the flood, it almost certainly would have been because the fallen angels who corrupted mankind taught them all sorts of demonic things, meat-eating being one of them. In fact, some extra biblical writings say just that, I can look it up and post it for you if you want. Not nearly as much as Coke or apple juice and things like that. Also, almond milk comes unsweetened. :)
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    02-19-2018, 11:01 AM
    It's wierd that you guys can't understand what Rev is saying. There is no need to delve deep into argumentation ethics or legal theory: use is not an adequate proof of ownership.
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    02-19-2018, 02:12 AM
    Speaking of that, I came across a shocking statistic today… I want to verify if this is true, but it’s very interesting. Apparently, many companies have a financial interest in keeping animal agriculture going. Of course people are eating this and it’s causing resistance… and people are getting sick which means they need more pharmaceutical drugs. And who benefits from that?
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    02-19-2018, 01:24 AM
    This is a really good video, I highly recommend taking the time to watch it.
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    02-19-2018, 01:18 AM
    OK, I see you’re joking now. As for the Scriptures, I was specifically talking about God‘s original purpose and design. Animals were not designed to be food. Fruits and veggies and food from the ground was. There is absolutely no denying that, it’s right there in the first chapter of the first book of the Bible. God‘s original design was a plant-based diet, and God‘s ultimate plan is a restoration of that original peace and harmony we had for short time in the garden of Eden. Everything in between is this fallen world and God gave us over to the things we wanted, but that doesn’t mean it was His idea or that He likes it.
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    02-18-2018, 10:51 PM
    There are numerous former dairy farmers who could no longer do it and ended up going vegan, who are now saying something very different than this Canadian farm. But if you would rather believe the ones who want to continue making a profit and not have their industry tarnished, then go right ahead. I'll stick with actual video footage anyone can see online, as well as numerous people who either grew up in that environment or worked as dairy farmers for years, who are telling it like it is.
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    02-18-2018, 10:43 PM
    Rationalizing. Of course there are some small farms that treat animals better than factory farms. But as they didn’t even deny, even on the small farms they take the babies away from the mothers, and the males are sold (or in some countries killed at a very young age, treated as garbage.) Dairy is a horrible industry and more more people are realizing that. That’s why the whole industry is dying, that’s why they needed to be bailed out. As for the absolutely asinine thing about plants, you brought that up before… You are way too smart to post things like that. God gave us fruits and veggies to eat, that is their purpose. It is either retarded or very very dishonest to compare slicing into an apple with slicing into a pig or cow.
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    02-18-2018, 09:35 PM
    Your source is dairy farmers.ca? That is their way of life and livelihood…what do you expect they’re going to say? I didn’t read anything past the BS line about mothers not having much motherly instinct. Not only is that demonstrably untrue, but it is very deceptive because what they’re failing to mention is that when you continue to take calves away from mothers over and over and over again, don’t you think eventually something is going to happen? I’m sure there’s some psychological issue going on there, due to that repeated cruelty of stealing their babies. It seems to me that people want to rationalize all this, in order to avoid making changes. I know, because I was there before. I remember when I used to eat meat and dairy, I would rationalize it by saying very similar things to what you’re saying. Now I see it completely differently, and I’m sad that I purposely failed to truly look into it, for many years… perhaps on some level knowing I wouldn’t like what I find. Coincidently, my sig is about this very issue.
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