• The Rebel Poet's Avatar
    Today, 11:01 AM
    It's wierd that you guys can't understand what Rev is saying. There is no need to delve deep into argumentation ethics or legal theory: use is not an adequate proof of ownership.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Today, 02:12 AM
    Speaking of that, I came across a shocking statistic today… I want to verify if this is true, but it’s very interesting. Apparently, many companies have a financial interest in keeping animal agriculture going. Of course people are eating this and it’s causing resistance… and people are getting sick which means they need more pharmaceutical drugs. And who benefits from that?
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    Today, 01:24 AM
    This is a really good video, I highly recommend taking the time to watch it.
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    Today, 01:18 AM
    OK, I see you’re joking now. As for the Scriptures, I was specifically talking about God‘s original purpose and design. Animals were not designed to be food. Fruits and veggies and food from the ground was. There is absolutely no denying that, it’s right there in the first chapter of the first book of the Bible. God‘s original design was a plant-based diet, and God‘s ultimate plan is a restoration of that original peace and harmony we had for short time in the garden of Eden. Everything in between is this fallen world and God gave us over to the things we wanted, but that doesn’t mean it was His idea or that He likes it.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:51 PM
    There are numerous former dairy farmers who could no longer do it and ended up going vegan, who are now saying something very different than this Canadian farm. But if you would rather believe the ones who want to continue making a profit and not have their industry tarnished, then go right ahead. I'll stick with actual video footage anyone can see online, as well as numerous people who either grew up in that environment or worked as dairy farmers for years, who are telling it like it is.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:43 PM
    Rationalizing. Of course there are some small farms that treat animals better than factory farms. But as they didn’t even deny, even on the small farms they take the babies away from the mothers, and the males are sold (or in some countries killed at a very young age, treated as garbage.) Dairy is a horrible industry and more more people are realizing that. That’s why the whole industry is dying, that’s why they needed to be bailed out. As for the absolutely asinine thing about plants, you brought that up before… You are way too smart to post things like that. God gave us fruits and veggies to eat, that is their purpose. It is either retarded or very very dishonest to compare slicing into an apple with slicing into a pig or cow.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:35 PM
    Your source is dairy farmers.ca? That is their way of life and livelihood…what do you expect they’re going to say? I didn’t read anything past the BS line about mothers not having much motherly instinct. Not only is that demonstrably untrue, but it is very deceptive because what they’re failing to mention is that when you continue to take calves away from mothers over and over and over again, don’t you think eventually something is going to happen? I’m sure there’s some psychological issue going on there, due to that repeated cruelty of stealing their babies. It seems to me that people want to rationalize all this, in order to avoid making changes. I know, because I was there before. I remember when I used to eat meat and dairy, I would rationalize it by saying very similar things to what you’re saying. Now I see it completely differently, and I’m sad that I purposely failed to truly look into it, for many years… perhaps on some level knowing I wouldn’t like what I find. Coincidently, my sig is about this very issue.
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    Yesterday, 07:48 PM
    lilymc posted a visitor message on heavenlyboy34's profile
    Hey HB, please clear some space! :)
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    Yesterday, 05:50 PM
    I hope you're not assuming that just because someone is against the animal industries that automatically means they are for "modern agriculture." Vegans who care about the environment are always looking for sustainable ways of doing things, that cause the least harm to this world. Many of them support buying locally from small farms… or growing their own food. But the fact of the matter is that the animal industries are the worst, on a number of levels. And you don't have to be so defensive. Of course it's your choice to do business with who you want. But that doesn't mean that others don't have the right to speak out and bring awareness to these cruel, selfish industries. While we are free to choose our actions, we are not always free to choose the consequences.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:23 PM
    You were comparing milk to soda or sweet drinks… My point was that that's a terrible comparison, because people who ditch dairy typically go to almond milk, cashew milk, rice milk, soy milk, oat milk or other non-dairy plant-based milks… Not soda or juice. As for their use of the word responsible, I'd have to go check out the article to see the context. But most likely they were talking about how the animal industries are horrible in numerous ways, for example the tons of water and food it takes to feed livestock, the astronomical amount of waste (yes, actual shit) that ends up polluting lakes and causing all sorts of other problems, the disease, the chemicals used to treat the diseases, etc. etc.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:12 PM
    That's what we've always been told, but studies have shown that dairy is linked to an increased risk of certain type of cancer. Plus you've got pus cells in milk, and in some cases, parasites. Also, even on the small, so called "humane" farms, the baby cows are still torn away from their mother… Usually at one day old. That is standard practice. And it's a cruel practice. Why be a part of causing suffering when you don't have to? (This next one is not a dairy farm, but it still shows how protective mothers are of their babies)
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:53 PM
    Ha ha… I was talking about the baby. Did you think I was talking about the mama?
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    Yesterday, 02:57 PM
    I wondered how long it would take for him to become Jason Bourne....
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    Yesterday, 02:45 PM
    A "prime directive" like proposed in the Star Trek series, is a logical mandate for a civilization that is benevolent. Prime Directive: In the fictional universe of Star Trek, the Prime Directive (also known as Starfleet General Order 1 or General Order 1) is a guiding principle of the United Federation of Planets prohibiting the protagonists from interfering with the internal development of alien civilizations.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:39 AM
    Actually, typically people who stop drinking cow's milk replace it with a nondairy milk… such as almond milk or numerous other non-dairy plant-based milks. They taste good, they're nutritious, you don't have to worry about lactose intolerance, and best of all, you no longer have to participate in tearing a baby away from his mother, which causes distress to both the mother and the baby, in order to steal his milk. If you think there is something in this article that is false, then point it out and refute it. I'm just exposing that this industry is in bed with the government, the same government who created the now debunked food pyramid.
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    02-17-2018, 07:31 PM
    No, I don't believe so. Especially life that is more intelligent than we are. As we know all too well, that rarely works out for the inferior culture.
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    02-17-2018, 06:21 PM
    Have you guys noticed that they're blaming Trump for this? But remember all those school shootings under Obama's watch? I never heard any of the Dems blame Obama. Also, maybe it's just me… but for some reason the public's reaction to this particular one feels different. There seems to be much more of an uproar and a collective call for the government to step in and do something.
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    02-17-2018, 05:03 PM
    What's "policy"?
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    02-17-2018, 05:00 PM
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wars_of_the_Roses
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    02-17-2018, 04:37 PM
    I have no doubt that there are exceptions but it is something to think about. There is likely some hard truths in the cold attitudes of child rearing and nurturing that was ingrained inthe harsh USSR life. And fetal alcohol syndrome is very real and debilitating. :(
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    02-17-2018, 04:27 PM
    There's a lot of articles about this many which are dated back when Russia was our friend. Back when and before our supreme leader saw Putin's soul. http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1997439,00.html http://pantheon.hrw.org/legacy/reports98/russia2/Russ98d-05.htm https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2014/02/20/280237833/orphans-lonely-beginnings-reveal-how-parents-shape-a-childs-brain
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    02-17-2018, 04:06 PM
    I am thinking seriously about converting to Catholicism like my late and beloved Mother did.
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    02-17-2018, 04:04 PM
    true that The spelling of the name Nikolas is, if I am not mistaken, Russian? We and the Germans I believe, spell it Nicholaus? anyway. I just became informed of another interesting tidbit in these regards. "I don't know if you are aware at all of the Fatima prophecies....but I am a Catholic and have particular veneration for the Blessed Virgin Mary. When She appeared to the peasant children in Fatima Portugal 100 years ago her massage was particularly about the errors of Russia - she said that unless Russia was consecrated to Her Sacred Heart, so that She could convert the people of Russia back to the Faith...their errors would spread throughout the whole world. It has been a great tragedy that no Pope has been bold enough in 100 years to do it.....And see what has happened."-barb "
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    02-17-2018, 03:25 PM
    Say, has anyone heard anything about Nikolas Cruz and his brothers origins? A dear friend of mine from Ohio sent me a pm today. "I wanted to make a comment on this Nick Cruz. ONE source on the radio said that he and his brother had been adopted from Russia....I have not heard that from any other source nor can I find it on the internet. Every report just says he was adopted but gives no clue as to the source. I am interested in adoptions from Russia because I know two couples here in Akron who adopted 1.a baby 2. a toddler from Russia and had the SAME experience - very violent insane children. The couple who adopted a girl toddler have had TERRIBLE issues with her....I can't go into them all...they have been put through the wringer with this girl who is now grown up. They FINALLY thought they found the answer (in addition to medication) by introducing order and routine into her life with military school. The girl announced she was going to join the military after school. She did, then went promptly AWOL, running away with some guy. Now they have no idea where she is since she left the guy. The little boy adopted by the other couple as a baby is SO VIOLENT the couple is afraid of him. They have installed locks on the INSIDE of their bedroom door and got rid of their pets." "Well, I wonder if it's true because I only heard it on one broadcast. But I do know there is a terrible problem with children adopted from Russia because Russian orphanages do not nurture the children - even babies/ They have the infants tightly swaddled, lined up in big rooms filled with cribs. They are clean, well fed but never touched. If they cry, they let them cry..they never touch them. It makes for terrible mental problems...bad brain disfunction.The neural pathways never form that are needed for interaction , for developing relationships with others, because those are dependant, apparently, on being held, stroked, kissed, as an infant." "Apparently it can't develop later because once that crucial period has passed, the opportunity is gone."-Barbara I personally commented that there was / is, a high incidence of alcoholism in the Russian population and Fetal Alcohol Syndrome can be quite damaging to the brains of these children. Another gift that just keeps on giving from the loveless and dismal world of communism.... so sad and scary
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