• Dr.3D's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:02 PM
    Some idiot thinks we live in a democracy. lol
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    07-13-2018, 11:34 PM
    The soul is simply the inner you… your mind, will and emotions. Do you have those things? If so, if you have a soul. Or more accurately, you are a soul. I think some people get the soul mixed up with the spirit.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    07-13-2018, 07:31 PM
    Obviously I wouldn't work for a company that demanded that. And it's extremely far-fetched, but if they all did that, it wouldn't matter because I have my own company, and I never want to go back to working for someone else anyway. I like being able to choose who I work with.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    07-13-2018, 07:19 PM
    Yes, I think we all agree that people are free to associate with who they want to associate with, and if they don't like a company's policies, find another place to work. As for influencing people, I see it differently. For example, when it comes to religion/faith, there are tons of scriptures throughout the Bible about sharing the Gospel, being a witness, taking the good news to the ends of the earth, etc. As for other things, there’s nothing wrong with trying to influence people, as long as no one is forced, and as long as it is done in an appropriate way. I'm sure there are many here who believe that we should try to influence people toward the message of liberty. The media/schools/powers-that-be are sure doing a good job influencing people in the opposite direction, so if we sit around and do nothing, how do we expect anything to ever change? But that's just what I believe, and I know that we all have different roles or 'callings' so maybe it's not for everyone.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    07-13-2018, 06:25 PM
    Well I was just making that clear, regardless of what you said. But yeah, agreed.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    07-13-2018, 06:06 PM
    I didn't read the whole article, but it seems to me that they simply removed it from the food they serve at events and such… That is very different than telling people what to do on their own time. But if it was the latter, then I would agree with you.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    07-13-2018, 06:04 PM
    I kind of got that vibe from AF. But anyway, yes, let the free market work. It reminds me of a well-known café in England that recently took dairy completely off their menu, after watching the viral video "Dairy is scary." If people don't like that decision, they can take their business somewhere else. I haven't heard how their business is doing, but with all the attention they got for that, they probably got a ton more business for doing it.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    07-13-2018, 05:49 PM
    Why are you angry about what a private company does? You're not implying that they don't have the right to decide what to serve or not serve, are you? I for one applaud them for no longer offering decaying corpses on their menu.
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  • Dr.3D's Avatar
    07-13-2018, 02:56 PM
    Wow, 44% of Americans are only 8 years old?
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-13-2018, 08:30 AM
    It’s hidden in this page, about 60% of the way down. This was the best source I could find on the internet. It’s from his commentary on Psalm 29 http://ia802605.us.archive.org/22/items/fathersofthechur013929mbp/fathersofthechur013929mbp_djvu.txt
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-12-2018, 10:13 PM
    No matter how much we may study, it is not possible to come to know God unless we live according to His commandments, for God is not known by science, but by the Holy Spirit. Many philosophers and learned men came to the belief that God exists, but they did not know God. It is one thing to believe that God exists and another to know Him. If someone has come to know God by the Holy Spirit, his soul will burn with love for God day and night, and his soul cannot be bound to any earthly thing. - St. Silouan the Athonite
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-12-2018, 10:13 PM
    Many rich and powerful men would pay dearly to see the Lord or His Most Pure Mother, but God does not appear in riches, but in the humble heart... Every one of the poorest men can be humble and come to know God. It need neither money nor reputation to come to know God, but only humility. - St. Silouan the Athonite
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-12-2018, 10:12 PM
    As it is impossible to verbally describe the sweetness of honey to one who has never tasted honey, so the goodness of God cannot be clearly communicated by way of teaching if we ourselves are not able to penetrate into the goodness of the Lord by our own experience. - St. Basil the Great
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-12-2018, 10:11 PM
    God loves us more than a father, mother, friend, or any else could love, and even more than we are able to love ourselves. - St. John Chrysostom
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-12-2018, 10:10 PM
    Truth is not a thought, not a word, not a relationship between things, not a law. Truth is a Person. It is a Being which exceeds all beings and gives life to all. If you seek truth with love and for the sake of love, she will reveal the light of His face to you inasmuch as you are able to bear it without being burned. - St.Nicholas of Serbia
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-12-2018, 10:10 PM
    The soul that loves God has its rest in God and in God alone. In all the paths that men walk in in the world, they do not attain peace until they draw nigh to hope in God. - St. Isaac the Syrian
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-12-2018, 10:09 PM
    How mistaken are those people who seek happiness outside of themselves, in foreign lands and journeys, in riches and glory, in great possessions and pleasures, in diversions and vain things, which have a bitter end! In the same thing to construct the tower of happiness outside of ourselves as it is to build a house in a place that is consistently shaken by earthquakes. Happiness is found within ourselves and blessed is the man who has understood this. Happiness is a pure heart, for such a heart becomes the throne of God. Thus, says Christ of those who have pure hearts: "I will visit them, and will walk in them, and I will be a God to them, and they will be my people." (II Cor. 6:16) What can be lacking to them? Nothing, nothing at all! For they have the greatest good in their hearts: God Himself! - St. Nektarios of Aegina
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-12-2018, 10:08 PM
    A certain monk told me that when he was very sick, his mother said to his father, "How our little boy is suffering. I would gladly give myself to be cut up into pieces if that would ease his suffering." Such is the love of God for people. He pitied people so much that he wanted to suffer for them, like their own mother, and even more. But no one can understand this great love without the grace of the Holy Spirit. - St. Silouan the Athonite,
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-12-2018, 10:07 PM
    The Lord loves all people, but He loves those who seek Him even more. To his chosen ones the Lord gives such great grace that for love they forsake the whole earth, the whole world, and their souls burn with desire that all people might be saved and see the glory of the Lord. - St. Silouan the Athonite
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-12-2018, 11:32 AM
    Hey wizardwatson! Good to 'see' you! You know what they say about theological opinions! lol, j/k The convention of using masculine and feminine terms is used for many languages. These uses denote gender specific qualities, but of course does not mean that they are male or female sexes. For example, 'apple' in Spanish is feminine. This does not mean that apples are of the female sex! It is rather using human language (which is limited) in describing an object and assigning it with terms that also may connotate familiar attributes such as of the masculine or feminine nature (as you described in your earlier post). As for Jesus calling God the Father "Father", it does not necessarily mean God the Father is male in the human sex (like the Mormons believe), but is rather Christ using limited human language to describe God to us and God the Father's relationship with the Son. He is the Father of the Son, but He is cannot be described as being the male sex because He is beyond human gender distinctions and is unlike anything else in existence (some would say indeed that God is beyond existence as well, but this gets into heady theological topics that I am not very familiar with).
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  • wizardwatson's Avatar
    07-12-2018, 10:08 AM
    Hey, TER! :D Well, it's my theological opinion. Not sure what it's worth. lol. But the Hebrew for for "head" (resh) is masculine. The word for "body" (gviyah) is feminine. Incidentally, the word for "curtain" (yeriah) is also feminine which is relevant here: Hebrews 10:19-20 "Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body," Matthew 27:51 "At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom."
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-12-2018, 09:25 AM
    I agree with your premise that it involves a spiritual and literal meaning. The maleness attributes of God involve the virtues which are traditionally consider male-like. However, that does not make God a male in the human sexual way of physical distinction. Interesting note. Coincidently, the ancient Saints expressed the concept of the spermaticos logos (the seed of the Logos) when expressing how Christ was active in the world before His incarnation (within both Israel and in the rest of creation). The planting of the seed definitely I think contributes to the maleness attribute of God. It is unanimous amongst the Fathers of the Church going back to the very beginning that God cannot be reached by man's attempts alone. The created cannot understand the uncreated by their minds or intuition. It requires God to reveal Himself. In other words, knowledge of God can by gleamed very superficially through meditative means (think Lao Tzu and the Tao, who had knowledge of the spermaticos logos prior to Christ's Incarnation), however it is only through the grace of God whereby we can have true knowledge of God and understand Him as much as humanely possible. So I agree that we can know God, but our efforts are quite limited and it is only through the Holy Spirit (that is, God himself) Who can give us any true knowledge of His nature. Those who have reached such heights of theosis (sanctification) through the grace of the Holy Spirit are called the Saints, and it is those who have taught that God is beyond gender and sex. So I disagree with you when you say "the Father is male in the Old Covenant". He has attributes of maleness and is called as such, but a bodiless uncreated uncircumscribable eternal Spirit cannot be called a male in the generic human way. He is beyond male, He is beyond female.
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  • wizardwatson's Avatar
    07-12-2018, 08:49 AM
    It don't think the "maleness" of the Father is some kind of dumbing down of the truth so we can understand it. Like everything else it has spiritual meaning and literal meaning. The Hebrew word for "male" comes from the root verb "to remember". Food for thought: Bringing this gender discussion down to vulgar mechanics then, mankind (or "the church/ecclesia" if that's your cup of tea) is what God ejaculates into. And what does he ejaculate? The seed who is the Christ. What is "pierced" (the female aspect) is on a spiritual level mankind (or church), but on a very literal level "the body of Christ on the cross". This promise of the seed was kept by God and rejected by the chosen people. God in his wisdom used the rejection as fulfillment. Conquered death with life.
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-11-2018, 08:13 PM
    Wow. Can’t believe it has been 10 years. May his memory be eternal.
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-11-2018, 08:11 PM
    Russia is not the Soviet Union. It is a nation freed of its former communist, atheist yoke which imprisoned and murdered tens of millions of its own people. It has problems as all nations do, but there is no reason why the US and Russia as it is now cannot have friendly relations. Those who try and make Russia into the boogieman do so for their own selfish reasons which do not necessarily align with the peace and prosperity of either nation.
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-11-2018, 07:43 PM
    I just caught this addition. It is natural to try and describe God in anthropomorphic terms because it helps us as humans to try and understand God using characteristic we can relate to, but we must concomitantly understand that such human constructs of created attributes and worldly distinctions are insufficient and limited in the face of the essence of God. They are superficial understandings which help to make sense of the mystery but must be understood to still be, in the end, mere human thoughts trying to make sense of something which is frankly beyond human comprehension. The human mind, a product created and living in time and space, is simply too limited to understand the depths of such a mystery as an eternal uncreated God, which is why the patristic teaching puts more emphasis on the heart, which is the spiritual center of the individual. As Christ said, “blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God”. Our minds can bring us closer to the knowledge of God, to a certain point, but it is in the heart whereby the Kingdom of God is found and experienced.
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  • TER's Avatar
    07-11-2018, 04:15 PM
    Yes. They were the most educated ones in the past to do so. Today, I am sure, there exist many faulty translations done by educated women as well. I take it to mean humans (mankind). Please see my post above. The only Person of the Holy Trinity Who can be described as having a ‘sex’ is the Incarnate Word of God, our Lord and Savior, for He alone ‘circumscribed’ Himself in kenosis into the form of a human being in order to save human kind. The other Persons of the Holy Trinity, namely God the Father and God the Holy Spirit are bodiless and any attribution of male pronouns is not because they have a sex in the traditional sense of the word, but because of human convention and because to human beings, it best describes their understanding of the relationship between them and God. That is why sometimes the Holy Spirit can be referred to in feminine terms, as I believe you were trying to get to. It is a matter of human attempts at understanding the mystery of the Holy Spirit, and using limited human comprehension in doing so. But because Christ used the pronoun He in regards to the Holy Spirit, then we do so too. Had He used a female pronoun, then so would the Christian.
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