Champuckett
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Yes, it is Orwellian, but it's no surprise considering the source. They've been up to these shenanigans for decades in diluted form, but they have ramped up their efforts due to desperation and we are prepared now and have become adept at spotting the bs the second it strikes. I know "normies" that can spot this stuff now just as easily and they have lived a life of ignorance and indifference towards anything political. They have become a caricature of themselves.

This thought has crossed my mind a lot often in recent months. Short answer to it would be, no, he wouldn't have been able to achieve almost anything assuming he was not assassinated before inauguration. We have insight into this now to some degree because of the Trump show. The countless amount of games, media tricks, deep state tactics, identity virtue signaling, and the reliance on an uneducated populace have made it largely impossible to do much of anything. Bannon admitted as much recently, and we have seen Trump unable to work with a bought out and paid for Congress or a litany of corrupt judges that put their own leftist ideologies first above the constitution. Trump actually thought he could work with neocons, leftists, and deep staters that believe in nothing except maintaining power by extending some half assed olive branch. He held his tongue on Paul Ryan and others after ripping them for years during the election. He brought in all sorts of neocons, bankers, and allowed Obama holdovers to stay indefinitely. He was less interested in principles and more interested in generating an operating cabinet that could achieve his nationalistic goals through compromise and acting like some kind of deal maker. It didn't work at all. They still want him gone or dead, whatever comes first. He is dealing with people that have no interest in getting along, they only want people to join them if they are useful and discard any opposition. Trump has not recognized this even after they have discarded most of the nationalists that he had. He still hasn't recognized this or he is playing coy to maintain his base. We'll see. Ron Paul stands firmly on his principles. He would not have lined his cabinet like this at all. He would not have worked with them like Trump attempted to. He would not have worked with the deep state, which would have been a quick ticket to nationwide villainy and 24/7 baseless attacks by the deep state influenced/operated media. He has stated this many times throughout countless interviews he would not play ball like that and that's why he was often the only "No" vote. On the contrary Rand does play ball, he plays the game and tries to achieve liberty through this game. A Rand presidency may have seen more similarities to Trump than Ron's would have. Ron has stated this is the biggest disagreement between himself and his son, but ultimately they believe in the same principles. Ron wasn't interested in getting along or playing games, he was interested only in following the constitution and exposing people to liberty. We will know more soon, but it's still early into this presidency and there are already plenty of clues to answer some of these questions.

Looks like this is finally moving from this whole "bank fraud" issue onto what we have all be waiting for, congressional spy ring and blackmail. MSM is slowly (reluctantly) beginning to cover. http://nypost.com/2017/08/19/it-staffers-may-have-compromised-sensitive-data-to-foreign-intelligence/

No doubt and seconded. This is probably the most important story to be following right now. All of the presidential drama, statue toppling, and media sensationalization is all being used as a distraction from this gem. They are more afraid to cover this story than Pizzagate. Quite the accomplishment.

I'm with you 100%. There was evidence out there on all of this many months ago. The wheels of justice are excruciatingly slow and/or non-existent when it comes to high level D.C. elites. DWS should go down based on everything out there, but we have been there and done that before with so many others and nothing to show for it. Will the DNC try to cut this off at the low level IT guy, or let it infect its way up to DWS or higher? It seems they typically choose fighting charges through a rigged judicial system and corrupt judges instead of ever admitting guilt. That could cost them as this slowly escalates.

898292131051085825 His wife is also named in the indictments.

Thanks. Would like to hear from the person I quoted, however, to get some of his insight.

Could you elaborate?

This pretty much sums it up. Modern day book burning has seemingly returned thanks in part to generations worth of the dumbing down of the masses and the media giving them the dousing of gasoline and a matchbook that they have been waiting for.

It's been like this since the beginning and even if you were not a fan of Trump, if you watched closely, this was how all of the MSM was treating him from day 1 when he announced his candidacy. And there is no doubt, they have amplified this to a fever pitch because the Russian narrative has all but collapsed, flying back at them like a boomerang with various invesitgations coming up on Comey/Lynch/Rice/Schultz unmasking, tarmac, IT, etc, and they are building a new angle as a result, so here we are. Since they have refused to attack him on a constitutionality basis, which they could, they instead rely on the ace up their sleeve "racism" and the sad part of course, is it's working.

Tom Woods, one of our strongest voices defending the tenets of liberty and libertarian movements since RP's 2008 run being thrown under the bus for being a Nazi apologist, makes perfect sense. Next on the list, Murray Rothbard, Ron and Rand Paul, and anyone else that stood up for common sense and protected rights to speak freely no matter how controversial the topic. Anyone that supports freedom of expression now means they support Nazi's according to the media's current narrative and people are jumping on that train with haste willingly. Never thought I would see this day come, as naive as it appears I am, but here we are. The racist and sympathizer labeling only gets worse from here.

I don't think the media gets off as easily as just calling them entertainment. They are worse, far worse. They certainly have continued pumping stories for profit that they know their target audience of low informed voters, establishment yes men, and big government leftist lunatics (this includes both liberals and neocons) are happy to consume and promote, but they are actively spear heading their divide and conquer tactics of the masses with purposely misleading stories that are taken directly from deep state modus operandi notes. Anytime we get a leak from Wikileaks or a story breaks on some conservative or libertarian news site, CNN, FoxNews and all of the other abominations immediately have a former CIA/NSA/DNI director to explain how this is damaging to us. They literally have all of these people awaiting on standby to dispel any potentially harmful stories to the running myth on the importance of the intelligence agencies and of the federal government in our everyday lives. They appear to be nothing more than a mouthpiece for these same intelligence agencies. The recent election did more to expose this reality moreso than anything before it. When was the last time they criticized the institution of the government or the ridiculous power our intelligence agencies currently wield by transcending their operations through many presidential administrations? I've only seen defense of these institutions, never criticism, never discussion. At this point, entertainment news would be a vast improvement.

"Progress."

Can't tell if this is a serious response or a play on semantics. One is external, other is local. The data on the DNC server appears to have been obtained locally, not externally like originally thought. You can call it whatever you like, but right now "leak" is sufficing to describe this. Doesn't entirely prove or disprove anything other than it was not likely to be some foreign hacker like Gufficer 2.0, but someone who had direct access.

The Bush Doctrine is still in full effect. Will we ever again see a President and/or his cabinet that does not run their administration based on this strategy before the end of the state, whenever that may be? It's not looking likely.

Yes, the Seth Rich story was really just a gate or door to something 1000x bigger. Solving whatever happened here with Seth is a start, but the focus should remain with the resulting Pandora opened box of the Awan IT people and how they were intertwined with a large portion of the Congress and the information within. My understanding is this comparison can be summarized as A) the hiding of facts regarding a stolen democratically elected presidential nomination via murder and coverup using Washington PD and destruction/obfuscation of evidence versus B) having essentially complete or near complete control of the legislative branch of our government through blackmail and extortion through use of a Pakistan proxy intelligence service as a workaround over the legal structure of the US intelligence on all of the inside information within Congress, for at least the last 14 years, probably more. The Awan's arrived in 2003-2004 but who knows who may have occupied their space before that. If we are being run to some extent by the operations of a 3rd world country for the sole purpose of trading secrets and control for the benefit of a few American politicians, we are about as far from having liberty as one could imagine at this point. The best part is the fact that this is citizen funded via our countrywide tax plantation system.

Gabbard claiming the US funded ISIS to a perplexed presstitute:

Agreed and I was just going to post something to this effect. I'm not sure why you would try to mock someone that wants to willingly leave and remove an enormous burden of anti-liberty speech, regulation, and philosophy from the union. I seriously hope more states consider this and fast. I know part of Tucker's game is to make leftists look like fools, and Tucker even admitted multiple times the guy was right, but this guy seemed to make sense on some of his points and admitted they are not liked by a large portion of the US. Seems like he will get flack from his own state democrats for this appearance since they have the insane misconception that they are beloved and idolized by the rest of America, with their Hollywood elitist tribe and maximization of big government and totalitarian control of their citizens through hyper regulation of every possible human action. We should be supporting these people with their succession, not mocking them.

Tulsi Gabbard is the best and possibly only good thing to come out of the Democratic Party in decades. She looks like Wonder Woman, is not afraid to fight leftist globalist neocons and their agenda, and has sound foreign policy. It would be nice to see her run so we could have at least some Ron Paul esque wrench thrown into their debates. Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich were decent in the 2008 presidential race as far as foreign policy was concerned, but they never gained an inch of traction.

The list of news outlets that did cover it tells a story in and of itself. Some people/news orgs listed there that have not reported on it even with many months to jump in on the story and you would have suspected would by now since they are either A) Always covering conspiracy theories or anti-government related stories or B) Typically have a vested interest in fighting back against establishment media, but are silent on this one. Very telling, mainly Glenn Greenwald/The Intercept, Mark Dice, and Abby Martin.

Here is the source video I think. Interesting that he is spotted here attending the hearings on Russia collusion and the hacked DNC servers, after just having a bunch of server equipment and hard drives turned over to the FBI from his previous residence. Weird stuff.

Wondering if anyone else had this thought cross their mind, but isn't it peculiar that Priebus is fired/resigns (conflicting reports still out there) the day after Repeal v3.0/4.0 fails after rumors heading up to Inauguration Day Jan. 20th that Priebus would be the GOP establishment go between for Trump and supposedly aid him by having a strong relationship with his fellow Wisconsin buddy Paul Ryan and other DC GOP elites in Congress. Repeal fails, thus, Priebus fails and has become obsolete and gets discarded almost immediately.

It was obvious as soon as Trump picked Priebus he had made a mistake. Who here can forget the RNC 2012? Good riddance.

If this ever goes deep enough, according to George, we will see both Democrats and Republicans working in DC being linked to the Awan brothers. This isn't just a Democrat fraud/spy ring, both parties are involved, something I assume many of us have suspected for quite some time, especially when it reared its head when Ron Paul started getting pushback from both parties during his 2008/2012 presidential runs. We may finally be getting some answers as to how this collusion and cooperation between supposed opposing parties actually worked. Good work with the updates, keep it up.

This is all that really needs to be said on a liberty based forum. The only way to make this even better would be to ban all men and women from serving in the US nation building and empire expanding military.

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