09-20-2016, 05:08 PM
Well good. You should read Biohistory! It's short.
Well the Greeks did collapse(ish), or they were in the middle of doing so and would have, but that was cut short, softened, and cushioned by being subsumed into the Roman civilization. But I was talking about: Babylon, Persia, and on and on, all these middle-eastern civs going all the way back to Sumeria. The Eastern Empire denizens were (and are) their descendants. They had "S" -- the Stability factor. They had had it for a loooong time. Thus, the Eastern Empire never reached the greatest heights -- all the really cool stuff was done in the West -- and they also never collapsed at all. The Empire as a polity ended, sure, but who cares, life continued on, meet the new boss, same as the old. There was no collapse. Just like India was occupied by England for a while (and before that everybody else who came along, one by one). But India never collapsed. Well, they did: once. You only get to collapse once. Their really creative, interesting civ catastropically collapsed. You only get to have one brilliant, creative, disruptive civ.