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Yea, exactly. It's like we're being pushed into a corner and the last stand will be here.

Came here to say these things. - About that Young Pharaoh guy, he seems like an uber goober. I thought it was funny that he said caucasians are animals and brought up the whole melanin argument. I thought it funnier that he said whites kill and don't lose any sleep. Does he care to address black on black murders then and how many are done without the perps losing any sleep, going at lengths to brag about it in some cases? Like I said, uber goober.

I'd take a guess most people around here probably don't listen to Jason Stapleton anymore (if they ever did), but last year he did a few episodes in which inflation and spending were brought up and he always hammered the same point: it's not going to matter in the end who did it or when it finally happens. The politicians will essentially stick their thumbs in their butts and point the other fingers everywhere but themselves and they'll insist it's "unprecedented." The latter being an excuse to do even more radical things that screw the common people over in the end. Despite warnings from the Austrian Economists, some investors/traders, hedge funds, etc. the politicians and Fed will say "we didn't know" or "we didn't see this coming." - Also - look around you, the topic of inflation has broken mainstream. I'm reading more and more articles on it just about everywhere. You all know what it means when something breaks mainstream, especially on a topic like this: a) it's already been happening and the veil is now being lifted or b) they're allowing the narrative to slip out on purpose to play the "we tried warning you" card. Start taking precautions where able, folks.

I've been debating on how active I want to be in OK's LP. I don't know much about them, honestly. There's a convention coming up and I thought I'd attend to see how they argue their platform - that's how you can really tell. But, honestly the LP at national and state levels just seems so disorganized, full of dorks, and unwilling to do what's necessary in this system to gain power and use it to influence liberty.

Legislators were compromised first. Voting was compromised second. The SC was compromised last. Sure, we can argue the order (if there is one) of the above, but the points remain the same. Where else are we, as "free citizens" supposed to turn? Ah, that's right - no where. We're supposed to bend the knee, kiss the ring, and accept our overlords in D.C. Something about "When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve..." Secession will not happen without a lot of bloodshed. There's no way at this point. The empire will eat itself before it sees its own appendages break off on their own, even risking utter destruction, to preserve its own hubris.

Yep, and with millions of users a piece, it's an issue that is too big to ignore or think it's black and white. There ya go, just try to get rid of all of it. We need to get back to talking with one another in our own homes or playing manual games off of screens, going outside, etc.

This is exactly right. As Jeff Deist puts it, we're in post-persuasion America. There are at least two realities in this country right now and neither side will stand to be persuaded. Meanwhile, it's truly one side committing violence and wanting complete domination of the other. Thus, why not go ahead and rip the band aid off and secede? But you see, no matter how much we talk about it or want it (and it's something I support wholeheartedly), it won't happen without violence. D.C. won't let their precious states go; the left won't let people/states go without "proper punishment" first. Where else can one move a family to in this world? The number of countries that respect liberty is small when you pretty much leave out all of Africa, Australia (because AUS sucks), most of South America, most of Europe, and a large part of Asia... This then comes back to circle around the idea of the federal republic or secession here in the states... They have us locked down and they know it. Someone, I can't recall who, recently said that they have us in the cage, but haven't closed the door yet. I'm not so sure about that right now.

There was a politician recently, in OK I think, who said a similar thing. I'll have to paraphrase, but he basically said if businesses can't afford to pay their employees $15/hr, they need to reassess their business and look at what they're doing wrong. The audacity of some of these people knows no bounds.

AOC is getting good at playing the games. Wasn't she down in TX this week handing out food and what not? She's all about the show... And her people lap it all up like good dogs.

I'll watch the video, but uh, yea... Much of 2016-2020 was "preparing" people for stuff like this. All of us on here saw how much of the left decided to respond to the 2020 elections with "How do we re-educate/exterminate 75 million racists?" I mean, these people who have been screaming about fascism are quite literally being the fascists themselves and they are so stupid and evil they don't even realize it. Our language is being completely reversed and words are being taken away from our lexicon each and every day if it doesn't pass the muster of the MSM and Cathedral. And most of us are just sitting back letting it happen because a) we don't know what do b) we're afraid of losing our jobs c) we're hoping it all just goes away Edit: as far as the goal of these evil perps? I'll agree with some of the comments here: divide. Divide and conquer... In the process, THEY can get rid of a large portion of liberty loving and naturally rebellious whites - the people standing in their way of 100% pure globalism and communism.

"But Facebook, Twitter, and Google are private companies, they can do what they want and you can leave!" Michael Rectenwald has disproved the sentiment above by a far margin. There's still some conservatives and libertarians holding to that line of bull and now the left is even using it in their typical fashion because the companies are doing their bidding.

Did you happen to see the NYT editorial discouraging critical thinking from this week? Yea... We're already there. I really don't want to live in this country as it is anymore. And moving isn't that easy...

China ends up being the real winner in all secession scenarios, it's really inevitable. I've pondered about it all a bit and China would likely no doubt want a split up U.S. where they can come in a carve whatever they wanted with their "monetary might." Regardless, barring some great unifying entity, this country is so miserable towards one another that we're not even trying to hide it anymore. It really has become two realities in a post-persuasion America, as Jeff Deist puts it. And the best thing to do is secede from one another. And did anyone notice how this prick in the article still had to make it about us vs. them and insinuate that blue states have more of a right to secede? It's so hard to just say "the case is equal and valid for all states, we should exercise it as able." Last edit: I'd still like to see something where the cities become their own city-states while ceding the rest of the state(s) to the respective rural/agrarian/suburban folks. In short, we could have 100 states, with each of the top 50 cities being their city-states.

Not derail the thread, but poking around the Internet shows the left salivating at this "demise" of TX, naturally. I've seen people blaming deregulation (huh?), inept Republicanism (ok...), and all around "bad karma" for them being a red state. Keep in mind, these are the people we're supposed to keep living peacefully alongside with. People who cheer the destruction of others instead of helping.

Ah, forgot about that one. Perhaps so. Then again, it could be detrimental to those not Native, as well...

Not that TX would need OK or anything, but I'd love if OK were to split off if/when TX ever does and we can create our own country together.

Hey, if the Texans want a repeat of the Red River Bridge War, they can come try and put their boots in our ice.

I tried telling a group of black Americans just before wokeism (prior to Trump being elected) took hold that I saw them as humans, or individuals, before their skin color. Their reaction, I joke you not, was that I was racist for doing so. They proceeded to lecture me that I needed to see them and ID them as black before anything else. It was at that point that I realized there are at least two realities in the U.S., if not the world. It was also then that I realized there was something deep seated going on. 2020 brought a lot of it out to the forefront and it's been made clear that this is all a marxist ploy to take down individuals and white Americans ala Agenda 21, etc. Whites, historically, have a natural propensity to be rebellious and whites are the face of "American rugged individualism." That is what is being rooted out as the last hold of freedom in this world, I think. Call me racist for typing this out, it makes no difference anymore. We're racist for saying things we never said or believed in, we're racist for saying things that have no racial connotation, etc. The bastardization of language is nearly complete.

Sound advice: Do. Not. Ever. Go. To. The. Libertarian. Subreddit. The only "libertarian" thing about it is its name.

Good, I hope the culture continues to split. The Right and Libertarians have dragged feet for too long in all of the realms that matter and we're now paying for it all, dearly. If there becomes a "Right" Hollywood, great. I'm going to continue encouraging people to cancel all this crap. Cancel Disney+, Amazon if you can or are willing (I know a lot people have become too tied into it), etc. Save your money and go local when you can.

Black women have as large a problem with white women dating "their" men as white men once had a problem (I say once because I don't think as many care anymore) with "their" women dating black men. True story. No debate. And while we're on the subject, how about all of those Asians being brutally assaulted in CA? Apparently there's a common thread behind the perps. I'm not seeing much media traction on any of it, though?

There ya go... A "big business" association and another specifically for "minorities." Voila!

Ulterior motives? Absolutely. D.C. doesn't do anything that doesn't benefit them or their friends. So, it's likely the following: While the GOP sits back with their thumbs up their butts, the Dems will continue to cement themselves as the party of the future by federally legalizing marijuana (in some form). This solidifies their legacy and more people will likely be hospitable to their party. Score. The Dems will open this new flood gate of tax revenue. Right now, there's millions, perhaps billions, in cash sitting around due to banks not allowing marijuana businesses to work with them. Score "Legalizing" or whatever they plan on doing from a federal level will allow for marijuana to become more available. This will assist in keeping the bread in the "bread and circuses" bit. Or maybe weed falls in the circuses part... Take your pick. This will help keep a lot of people docile. Score.

This made me think that if all of us hunker down, they'll just pick us off one by one, much easier. OR - we become completely neutered and they don't even need to worry about us because we'll be so fractured and spread out it won't make any difference. Yea, maybe. They're needing to ask permission from French Polynesia to try an experimental seasted. Quirk even mentions the irony in working with French Polynesia in telling them "we want some of your territory in order to experiment with societies we don't want you, or anyone else, laying claims to. But we promise we'll be good neighbors." And I'm pretty sure if it wasn't Quirk, it was another high profile seasteader that had their stead raided by Thailand and were forced to go back on shore. In summary, Thailand felt threatened by its presence, from what I recall.

I could be wrong, but wasn't TOR created/infiltrated by the CIA as well?

This would be ideal. And this is what Joe Quirk has been calling for via https://www.seasteading.org/ Unfortunately, it seems most of the extra money out there is being pumped into space projects, which is also fine, but the oceans are vast and can be migrated to. Quirk and Friedman (Milton's grandson) want to offer seasteading as an alternative to our current governments via experimentation and completely free association. It's no wonder it hasn't received more traction... This is where the fight is going to end. The federal level (battle) is lost. I don't think there's any winning it back, truthfully. Ever. Not in this form, anyway. Thus, we can and should leverage what's left of the built in federalism, state nullification, etc. Make no mistake, the states that haven't bent the knee are next. We need to start allying with the appropriate groups to make these remaining states bastions of free markets and thought. This, however, starts small and very local. Start with our families, then branch out as you can, then city, county, state.

Spot on. Leftism is a mental disease in its current state. Certainly arguable it always has been, but now it definitely can be argued they have a legit diagnosis due to all of their brainwashing they've received. Funny thing is, they say the same thing about us and everyone else who doesn't think like them.

A little is all we'll need, even if it's nothing more than a medicine to numb the pain. I'd add a few things: -If you're right minded, move to a red state ASAP (in most cases, local and state levels republicans are much more in tune or relatable to libertarian/ancap causes than dems will ever be). COVID caused a lot of ignorant blue staters to move red states. States are more easy to control and sway. Forget all about the Federal aspect of races - those are a complete lost cause. Sure, we have Massey, Amash, and Rand (at times), but they are three out of 535. -Something most libertarians, including myself, simply don't want to do: join local school boards or run for local office and do your best to "freedomize" your town/city. -Really support local when you can.

I've been using it... with a VPN. I encourage everyone to subscribe to a VPN provider. I went with Nord a while back, and I think I paid $100 for 3 years of service and able to VPN off of 6 devices. Nord can be frustrating at times, but I still like having it.

All of what you said was basically one of my points, so no I don't believe them. I'm not saying they are, I'm saying the could be but they don't want to because they're all part of the same system. Instead of us having a true second party, we really have one because of the dip shit GOP, all controlled.