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    Today, 11:27 AM
    //8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to theLord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.// I believe the good and necessary consequence for observance on the first day of the week is sufficient, but even if not, how in the world does this just go away? I could understand saying its the seventh day, or that you just have to pick a day, but I can't fathom how you could look at the reason God gave that law and still say we can just totally ignore it. However, since the sabbath was a day of holy convocation (worship) and the apostles worshipped on the Lord's Day (and also Isaiah 58 refers to the sabbath as "my" holy day) there's a clear good and necessary consequence that the sabbath should be observed the first day of the week. Of course if baptists were good with good and necessary consequence, they would also have their whole households baptized.
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  • erowe1's Avatar
    Today, 11:17 AM
    The day he rested was the 7th (which is incidentally, also the day Jesus rested immediately before his resurrection). That is a historic fact that will never change. The sabbath law was never just to rest one day out of 7, but to rest on the same day God did, the 7th. If that's not the day you're resting, then you're not observing the sabbath law. The apostle did treat the sabbath command as not obligatory. But they never suggested that the sabbath day could ever be any other day than the 7th. Nor did they relate it in any way to the Lord's Day.
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    Today, 11:15 AM
    It of course depends on what you mean by Protestantism. I obviously believe the apostles taught the same doctrine we do, but in a historical sense you' enot wrong here. The reason given for following the sabbath is that God created the earth in six days and rested one, so to say we are not bound by it makes little sense. I don't believe the sabbath was a ceremonial law but rather a moral one
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    Today, 11:08 AM
    I tend to agree with this. The truth is, thanks to his ineffectiveness, we haven't done as badly under Obama, at least in his 2nd term, as we have under most presidents. A point in favor of Trump might be that, as terrible as his policies are, he may be even more ineffective than Obama. Unfortunately, that's hard to predict.
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    Today, 10:53 AM
    I'm not a pacifist and have never advocated pacifism, nor said anything that people who are smarter than you would take that way. You, however, are simply either lying about your own views or hopelessly confused.
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    Today, 10:51 AM
    This is another reason to be cautious about the label anarchist. Traditionally, socialism has been so endemic to anarchism as to be almost an essential part of it. Anarcho-capitalism is a recent development that even today makes up a small minority of anarchists. And outside of libertarian circles, to call oneself an anarchist would often lead people to assume you're a socialist.
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    Today, 10:42 AM
    Answer: No. But Johnson likes efficiency and that usually translates into liberty since it's usually most efficient to just let things be. Trump just likes Trump.
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  • erowe1's Avatar
    Today, 10:23 AM
    Now that it has been proven that I didn't spread bs, we are left with the more obvious explanation. You took susano's side. Don't blame me. You should have been smarter. Sadly, that's asking too much.
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    Today, 10:16 AM
    It wasn't necessary. My words conveyed my point accurately. People who can read had no difficulty with them. You already lumped yourself in. And once again, notice who here is walking back their words.
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    Today, 10:14 AM
    But you're not a voluntarist. Or anything close to it.
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    Today, 10:04 AM
    Thanks for the input. +rep silverhandorder, please share your thoughts about Ron Paul. I'm sure I'm not the only one here who would like to see them.
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    Today, 10:03 AM
    So you do support the law. Another troll I see. Go ahead and choose your side Bryan. Which of us will you ban? If it's gonna be me, let everyone here see it. I won't be able to come back and say what I think about what you're doing to this website. But then, it really won't be necessary. Will it?
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    Today, 09:51 AM
    I have never once disputed that., nor even so much as implied anything contrary to it. However, they were only slightly over-represented (despite their natural advantages that would impel them into positions of leadership). And they made up only a small minority of the Bolsheviks and their leadership, far too small to support the antisemitic canard you two trolls were trying to push. That is my statement. It was true when I said it in its original context, and it's true now. Their slight overrepresentation takes nothing away from my claim's truth and relevance. You're not arguing against liberal Kool-Aid, unless you mean liberal in the classical sense, in which case, that's exactly what you're doing. But then why would someone do that on this website? Answer: Because they're a troll.
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    Today, 09:35 AM
    I've heard Ron Paul say that Hillary, as bad as she is, may actually be preferable to Trump because she would have an opposition party fighting her. Whereas, "Art of the Deal" Trump would give away anything the left wanted in order to get whatever political trinket would provide more power to himself. (paraphrasing, of course) Remember, it's the deal-making that costs Americans liberties and money. So, it would be interesting if he thinks the disaster that is Obama is better than the disaster that would be Hillary. My guess is that it's like asking if you preferred Hurricane Andrew to Katrina.
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    Today, 09:30 AM
    I would be interested in hearing where Ron Paul would stand on that choice. I admit, it's a tough one. Do you think Trump is much better than Obama or something?
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    Today, 09:27 AM
    Is there something unclear about it? No. Is there something false about it? No. Is this your attempt to back up your claim that you called me out on BS? If so, thanks for proving my point, troll. And if you disagree with susano, then what is it you're arguing for here? Are you also going to pretend that you're not one of the Trump trolls?
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    Today, 09:25 AM
    Yes. I registered. Do you honestly support that law? If you do, then you're wrong.
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    Today, 09:21 AM
    Really? Please quote the statement I made that was BS. Provide my own words that you think were false. Exactly. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Bolshevism being a Jewish thing. Now, which of the two of us is walking back what they said? P.S. You're a troll.
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    Today, 09:19 AM
    What kind of ridiculous contorted logic is that? You might as well say that it logically follows that Sunday is the Christian Monday, or Tuesday, or any other day. Yes, Sunday is the Lord's Day. Yes, it has been revered as a day of remembering the resurrection since the time of the apostles. Yes, it's true that no Christians since Pentecost have ever been obligated to observe the Sabbath according to the covenant God made with Israel, whether on the 7th day of the week or the 1st. Those who had been raised as Torah observant Israelites continued to observe it as they always had. But when Gentiles came to faith in Jesus, they were no more obligated to observe the Sabbath than they were to get circumcised. However, neither the apostles nor any other Christians whose writings we have from at least the first two centuries of Christianity made an equation like the one you did, that Sunday is the new Sabbath. In fact, they distinguished the two.
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    Today, 09:11 AM
    I can't speak for other Baptists, but in my case you hit the nail on the head. "Protestant" is not a good label for what I am. I'm a Christian. Christianity has been around for 2,000 years. Protestantism has only been around for 500. Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy have each been around about 1,400 or so.
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    Today, 09:06 AM
    I agree less than 5%. More like 3% (i.e. three times as much as your 1%). So your point is that people of Jewish parentage were slightly overrepresented among Bolsheviks, while still comprising a small minority of them, including in their leadership? That is a far cry from calling Bolshevism a Jewish movement. In comparison, Jews today make up a third of the present Supreme Court, nearly a third of Obama's cabinet, and 5% of Congress (while being 2% of the US population, which is less than the percentage of Jews in 1926 Russia). Of course, I won't be surprised to learn that for you and susano, that means that "the J00s" run the USA.
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    Today, 08:56 AM
    The Bolsheviks were in the early 20th century, before so many Russian Jews moved to Israel and elsewhere, or got killed by the Bolsheviks. Not today.
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    Today, 08:55 AM
    Bryan, are we still not allowed to call silverhandorder and susano trolls? If not, how far are you going to take this? And when are you going to start being honest about whatever it is you're up to here?
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    Today, 08:49 AM
    Bingo. Here is where I get to say, "I told you so." That is the website of Simon Sheppard. In truth, Jews made up a small minority of Bolsheviks. They also made up a small minority of its Council of Peoples' Commissars and its Central Executive Committee of the Congress of Soviets. And those Bolsheviks who were of Jewish parentage were generally opposed to Judaism.
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    Today, 12:52 AM
    You Johnist :P ;)
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    Yesterday, 10:35 PM
    Questions about the authorship of the epistles of Peter or the disputed Pauline epistles are moot. It's very easy to prove that Paul had the approval of the apostles and brothers of Jesus who were with him in his earthly ministry just by the data available in the undisputed Pauline epistles.
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    LOL You're ridiculous. Go away, you globalist troll and race-obsessed collectivist hack.
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    You're lying again, and your obsession with race is pathological and also boring. Go issue directives to someone else, you globalist troll.
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    erowe1, are you seriously taking the position that cops are "innocent until proven guilty"? Or are you just messing with people here to see if they are parroting what they've been told without thinking about it?

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    I genuinely wonder how that would have gone over in my church. Probably not nearly as well.
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    Thanks for the sermon. Good stuff. I passed it on to my parents. My dad's a pastor so I'd love to see him converted to the view of Romans 13 that you take or a similar one.

    Just out of curiosity, how well received was that message in your church?
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    Thanks. One of my brothers in Christ who I respect and love told me that a Christian man should spend more time with his brothers than people in the world. I was spending so much time on the forums with these unbelievers, and when he said that, I was extremely convicted. There is nothing like spending time with brothers who build you up in the Lord and sharpen you.
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    I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your insight on topics like we just discussed. (existence, god, reality, etc) You give me much to mull over.
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