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    Yesterday, 04:51 PM
    I can't say what I would do if I walked in and found it happening. And I don't think I could judge anyone who killed someone in that instance. But that isn't what we have here. Here we have an opportunity to find real justice, not just dish out punishment. The urge to punishment is understandable, but that is why these types of decisions aren't in the hands of family to begin with. Justice requires clearheaded thinking, not our raw emotional reactions.
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    Yesterday, 04:48 PM
    Sure. But animals are not people. And people do not lose their rights when they have done something evil. This is what it means for a right to be inherent and inalienable, natural and permanent. And I don't see how you committing the same kind of mistakes and evils that the justice system does makes you any better than it. Indeed, it seems you would be becoming what you hate most.
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    Yesterday, 04:45 PM
    I absolutely agree that the current justice system is inherently flawed and doesn't dispense justice to the people. Your every criticism is exactly on point. But I wasn't really talking about the justice system. And the problem with passion is that the extremity of our emotions are not usually inclined to justice. I don't feel differently than you. But if we want a just society then we can't be ruled by raw emotion alone. In fact I agree that just putting a killer in a mental ward wouldn't accomplish justice either. Justice is about restoration, giving back as much as possible what was taken. We all acknowledge this just about everywhere else. If someone steals from you, what do you get back? What was taken or compensation of equal value. This is why executions can never accomplish justice, because by killing the person you are actually ending their ability to restore in anyway what they have taken. So, what would justice look like in this case? That I will admit to not knowing. Since a child was horribly murdered, perhaps lifelong indentured servitude would be a more just sentence. Instead of killing the person, make them work the rest of their lives providing labor and wealth to the family.
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    Yesterday, 04:38 PM
    Nope. In reality assassination accomplishes nothing. It is the system that gave the tyrant power and that system still exists after the tyrant's death. Only a new tyrant will come to power.
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    Yesterday, 04:37 PM
    Actually it does not. There is absolutely no evidence that proves that the death penalty deters people from killing others. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/04/30/theres-still-no-evidence-that-executions-deter-criminals/?utm_term=.6d23dfbb1133 For a longer, in depth look, here is a paper from Dartmouth on the issue: https://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance/teaching_aids/books_articles/JLpaper.pdf The only thing proven about the death penalty is its liabilities, the expensive nature of it and the fact that thousands of people a year are convicte dof crimes they did not commit, including murder.
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    Yesterday, 04:31 PM
    You apparently don't know what the definition of "murder" is, so I'll help you. So, in what way is the planned state sponsored execution of another person, one which is years in the planning NOT murder? It is murder. It fits all the needed qualifications for the definition. So you are, proved by evidence, wrong. Killing another person is only justified when they are in the act of trying to kill you. When someone is under arrest they are not an active threat to your life in any way. Therefore you are not justified by self-defense in killing them. Removing a person from society can be accomplished in ways other than killing them. But more importantly, that isn't the goal of justice. Justice is about restitution. Killing the murderer actually violates justice and prevents it form occurring.
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    Yesterday, 03:46 PM
    https://getwrench.com/ They just raised $4 million.
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    Yesterday, 03:40 PM
    No it's not. Killing is sometimes (often) justified. Not all killing is murder. Killing of grievous aggressors is not murder. What it accomplishes is: the goal of the act. Namely: • Removes murderer from society permanently. • Prevents murderer from fathering further children thereby perpetuating his faulty genes.
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    Yesterday, 02:45 PM
    May? May? May? The studies and the evidence are clear: reliance on technology as a substitute for mental exertion does 100% definitely result in lowered mental function. As does anything else which lessens mental exertion. The mind is a muscle! This is an intra-lifespan single-person effect (i.e. you yourself become stupider), in addition to the inter-generational collapse of intelligence that is being caused by, well, fundamentally by escaping the Malthusian Trap.
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    Yesterday, 02:07 PM
    We live in a hard, terrible world. But we must not let that make us hard, terrible people. Otherwise we will be no different than those we despise. Murdering a murder is still murder. Vengeance is not justice. Justice restores. Justice would demand the murderer return all the life, work, and wealth that the child could have given. Vengeance only seeks to hurt someone else as much as they hurt you. Simply killing someone will neither bring peace nor see justice done. Vengeance killing doesn't take away the pain or make you feel better in any way. And you can never hurt someone else so much they feel the pain you do, the way you do, to the magnitude you do. Human suffering is so individualized that it simply doesn't work that way. No amount of torture and slaughter will ever meet your goals in killing the other person in the first place. Whether for justice or vengeance, killing murderers accomplishes none of that. Not to mention the many people who are convicted of a crime and who are innocent and yet suffer under these laws. This isn't a plea for mercy for this person if they are convicted of the crime. Instead I want real justice done, not murder masquerading as justice.
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    Yesterday, 10:18 AM
    That is a key. Because, interestingly, for the most part offshoring does not offer a better product than historically. That's not the whole problem, though. American-made products began seriously declining in quality, too, decades ago. So, it's just been a race to the bottom. And people have adjusted to that reality. No one expects to buy a product once and keep it for years. They expect everything to be junk. They know -- they know -- by experience that it will be. And so the entire economy has rearranged itself around this reality. Now, to re-rearrange it back to sanity, is shutting the doors on imports the whole solution? Would that do it? Just as you say, Madison320: definitely not.
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    Yesterday, 10:02 AM
    No, I know. Writing, I was thinking of your story of your friend who kept fiddling with here phone the whole time she was supposed to be eating lunch with you. :rolleyes: Oh, what have we come to?
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    Yesterday, 08:12 AM
    :D:D Just don't bring your cell phone!
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    Yesterday, 08:04 AM
    Our temperaments have definitely changed, quantifiably, and this is one of the manifestations. People are less social. More loners. Tons of factors that have caused this -- interstate highway system, higher education serving as a siphon to suck talent out of towns and into metros, a massive incoming peasant migration from places with very, very alien cultures, and government policies actively destroying and subsuming the role of family and church. All of which adds up to the reality that: Today, you probably do not relate to and share lots in common with your immediate neighbors. You feel no particular affinity towards them. You are a stranger on your own street. You don't have a shared life experience. You don't wake up at the same time in the morning and walk to the same job. You don't have barbecues together. Your kids don't walk to and from school together. You don't see each other at church every week. You have a closer emotional connection with Conan O-Brien and the characters in the Game of Thrones than you do with anyone whose house you can see out your window. Far closer. This is a bizarre situation, precedented by previous civilization collapses, but probably never to this extent. People don't like going out. Even to go shopping. When they are out they're on their geejaw. People are recluses. Non-social and anti-social. It's introversion rigorized and systematized.
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    Yesterday, 07:18 AM
    My suspicion is that it will not work, due to still being claimed by the old provider. The IMEI already failed as ineligible at another carrier. Clearing this up by calling the old carrier will be the first step. And probably the hardest, esp. if, as Angela (and as everyone sane), one does not enjoy talking to these people.
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    03-27-2017, 02:00 PM
    All US Presidents since Grover Cleveland have been guilty of treason. So what is the point exactly?
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    03-27-2017, 01:58 PM
    Gotta love the idiocy of racism. The Japanese and Koreans are smarter than Americans! They will make us dumber! /s The doublethink is strong with this one.
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    03-27-2017, 01:54 PM
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    Sure they have. They have taught people how to think like a Leftist. Is it political indoctrination? Sure enough. It is still a way to think. It just isn't critical thinking.
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    03-27-2017, 12:33 PM
    I hope they sue Jones for everything his fraud and lies have cost them.
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    03-27-2017, 12:29 PM
    PierzStyx replied to a thread Rand is his dad in Rand Paul Forum
    Except facts say otherwise.
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    03-27-2017, 12:20 PM
    The Long Game is, indeed the way to win. There is more to it than education, though. Far more. To win, to even begin to compete, we need to go far deeper. The other side is.
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    03-27-2017, 12:08 PM
    PierzStyx replied to a thread Rand is his dad in Rand Paul Forum
    And this is why the Progressives will always win. They control education and teach people to think like them. Because all these libertarians don't understand how to actually win the long term war. As Ron Paul recognizes, education is the only way to win.
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    03-27-2017, 11:31 AM
    It is both humbling and liberating!
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    03-27-2017, 10:50 AM
    I realized that after a second reading and edited my post! :) Fair enough. I see your point and agree with it. Earlier I was just trying to explain that although created things are temporal by nature that they have a beginning, God in His power can give such created things (be it physical laws or human bodies) the divine uncreated attributes of eternity and immutability.
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    03-27-2017, 10:28 AM
    "God is love". 1 John 4:8 To say to that "all the physical rules governing it will be replaced" and they "will be irrelevant to eternity" is something neither you nor I can say with certainty, considering these things have yet to happen and quite above our abilities of human comprehension. A new earth and new heaven does not necessarily mean "all the physical rules governing it will be replaced", so it is is an error to make such a presumption on such mysteries, especially given the fact that we will be resurrected and reunited with physical bodies.
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    03-27-2017, 09:53 AM
    Things created or in creation can indeed remain eternal or eternally constant, but only by the will of God. I agree with your point that all created things by nature are temporal and what has a beginning also has an end, but, as stated above, created things can indeed be eternal by the grace and will of God.
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    03-27-2017, 09:00 AM
    In the meantime: Liberty is Winning!
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    03-27-2017, 08:59 AM
    Oh, well that's good.
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