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We got here because we're weak. Because we, as American men, refused to face the problems and enemies of the republic head on and identify those problems as enemies, without hesitation. I'm not bashing you, that is a self indictment more than anything else.

They're just trying to convince people the GOP is now suddenly friendly to humans. The DNC is committing suicide. The GOP will soon be the only face of the Uniparty. Opposition? Criminal. Soon everyone will pay lip service to the GOP. We won't have a choice. Yeah, Harris is worse. By design. The only person who could possibly be worse than Trump would have to be paid, because that takes a lot of work and self-humiliation.

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That and in a way it doesn't matter who's president, democrat or republican, because they don't actually run anything. Kind of the opposite point PAF seems to think was being made. Glenn Greenwald isn't close to being a republican.

"whataboutism" is a helluva drug

Oh look. We have another case of someone who hates actual facts even when they aren't actually against the position he is trying to advance, that there are some cases of illegal immigrants voting, but they don't go bat guano crazy as what he would prefer. The Trump appointed AG in the Northern District of Aalbama actually got one indictment and rather than be happy about that you want to bitch about it. Typical. There are illegal votes, just not proof of millions of them. And there is reason to be careful in moving forward because white people who have been here for generations have been falsely put on the list.

Isn't it heartwarming how much they care about folks' civil rights? And with such alert and eager vigilance! It's almost enough to bring a tear to my eye ... ... 'cause it makes me laugh so hard.

We're already seeing reports pouring in about how the cheat is getting set up. Wisconsin has a loophole that is still auto-sending 144,000 ballots to people who are "confined" due to covid, which sidesteps the requirement to show ID. That's just the last example I read. The two biggest cities in Wisconsin are democrat strongholds and they're actively encouraging their "electorate" to use this loophole. If you and I and PAF and everyone we could identify who is sick of this got everyone they know who is sick of this and got them to get everyone they know who is sick of this and got everyone they know who is sick of this all to move to Wisconsin in time to register to vote, we wouldn't even put a dent in that number just in that ONE cheat vector in that ONE state. TBH at this point I blame Brandon Herrera, and I am going to try to find a way to tell him at some point. Because every 20 years or so someone happens to slip into an election in a district that doesn't have its cheat code 100% enabled and is able to get within spitting distance of not losing (and still lose) and the rest of the country turns into Charlie Brown kicking at that football again. There is no strategy for winning 3-card monte. You're either the dealer, the plant, or the rube who is given small intentional victories prior to really getting fleeced. During the next four years under president Harris, we'll have a short time to get people to try to realize that before we're black-bagged for talking about it, and frankly, it's a bit frustrating to see people who should know better still not getting it.

Glorious :up: I lost count of the truth bombs

When the GOP -- and especially the RNC -- hands you a "monkey wrench" on a silver salver and says, "Here, chuck this in The Machine™ with our compliments!" you know what will be on that platter. Not worth getting upset over either way. There are about a million better ways to introduce wrenches into the system than voting in this farcical psyop masquerading as an election.

Well, it was a riot, it's not gonna be peaceful. If it was all scones and crackers and tea then it wouldn't be called a riot. I don't like this need for people on the right (not necessarily you) to try to differentiate between the "peaceful" and the "violent" protestors. Let's be real here it was a god-damn riot. There's gonna be violent protestors and peaceful protestors but they're all participating in a goddamn riot which is not gonna be peaceful or otherwise they'd call it afternoon tea with scones and biscuits. I also don't like the need for people on the right to try to disassociate or disavow themselves of the "violent" portion of the riot. January 6 was a goddamn marvel of modern anger against the establishment and it should be celebrated as such. Regardless of however hundreds of feds were in the crowd instigating or not, every rioter there is a goddamn hero. People back in the day probably called the original Tea Party rioters stupid & gullible, but at least they were men of action. Rather than sitting on our ass and commentating about how stupid someone is, as if that somehow makes us better than them.

Are you sure about that?

The last time we talked about this I landed on "He should have just Spartan kicked her." There's really no such thing as a "good shooting" in my book because something has gone wrong to get to that point. (I guess shooting a deer when you're hungry is a good shooting but that's besides the point). I think there should have been a trial of the officer who should Ashley Babbit or at the very a public adversarial hearing where he had to explain himself. I don't buy the "It's obviously murder" argument that Tucker Carlson and others gave who seem to always want due process and "wait for all of the facts" for every other officier involved shooting. (I'm not sure what Tucker has to say for the officer who has now admitted he shot Sonya Massie in the face because he took "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus" to be a threat.) As for the point of the Babylon Bee sketch, I get it. I'm just making a counter point. It's misleading. And everytime I've seen Fox News cover January 6th being "peaceful" the only show the peaceful parts. CNN only shows the violent parts. Same in reverse for the BLM protests. Dr.3D hit the nail on the head. There were two sets of protestors on January 6th. There were two sets of protestors for the BLM protests. Both sides have people who can honestly say that the protests they were involved in were peaceful. And I'm certain there were government provecetures who inflitrated both groups. And in both groups there were people who were not with the government who got carried away with the violence because they were gullible and impressionable. And that is how you divide and conquer. Go all the way back to the Tea Party protests which were followed by the Occupy Wallstreet protests. Both groups were made about the same thing yet both groups saw the other group as the problem. There is an old video that I can't find now of a Sarah Palin supporter who just couldn't believe Palin supported the banker bailouts. We're so easily manipulated it's not even funny.

And yet, if there's ever another budget argument, they're still going to ceremonially drape chains over the entrances to the national parks and wag their heads for a week, and all the news anchors are going to be wearing sackcloth and ashes and flagellating themselves over how much suffering the American people are going through because they won't pass a budget. And everyone will just magically forget, immediately upon command by the fourth estate, that this system doesn't even need a functioning leader to keep moving in perpetuity. It's literally Hotel California and everyone just seems content to dance.

I don't want him to win any more than I'd prefer prostate cancer to lymphoma. Oh sure if I have to take one the choice is obvious, but I'm sick and tired being the only person apparently on the entire planet taking the time to wonder how we got forced to choose a cancer, being one of about three people even talking about it, and refusing to play.

The Lesser Evil Gambit works very well.

They'll steal Arizona. Again. I doubt they'll be any more subtle about it than they were before. That's probably where the shooting will start.

That's not the strange part, though. You have to admit PAF has a point. The strange part is, even now that they're being completely overt and transparent about it, people are still looking at the two major party candidates like it makes a difference which gets installed. Not any more. Now they're just two flavors of slavery to give us the illusion of choice one more time. The slavery is about to start. Which flavor? Pick your poison.

At least they have the sense to admit they have no idea what they're looking at. They aren't using X-rays, so they have no idea if what they're seeing is metallic or biological. The 1960's style cartoon drawings don't help; it's almost like sites do things like that just to destroy their own credibility. But as the vaxxed walk around growing "calamari" in their veins, it's hard to deny there's something weird growing out of those jabs.

I certainly hope this scuttles any silly talk about Trump relaxing the Fed's legal tender laws...

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Not any more. Now they're just two flavors of slavery to give us the illusion of choice one more time. But there might be bread, maybe. In any case, there will be bloody circuses... How are they getting away with it?