Ronpauljones
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How many did he say?

Ya I think it may have been a goose. Looks a little small to be a goat. Could be a dog or cat, but not sure they would do that out in the open.. never know.

How many? And yes I'm aware of the evidence you presented.. I'm not convinced it was LIHOP, but I do agree there is circumstantial evidence. I've heard claims from your side that there were hundreds of casualties as a result of IDF actions, but there was only evidence of one or two, which were reported by Israel media. I still think my analogy is fitting, in fact it swerves in your favor, because as far as I can tell, the only reason the security system went down was a power outage. But in the case of LIHOP, the analogy is the literal definition. You're now trying to push it further into a MIHOP where Israel significantly increased increased the amount of deaths, while simultaneously significantly reducing the number of hostages. Do you realize there are still US hostages in Gaza?? It's been over a year. Do you understand what happens if they don't deploy the Hannibal option? Don't they have to assume every vehicle they want to bomb is carrying a hostage? If they raid some guys with guns in a building with a hostage, does that mean they go in and start shooting rather than get a bullhorn out and start negotiating? This is war, they need to kill the terrorists and get on to the next group of terrorists so they can save lives.

Oct 7 was also a Holiday, which could explain the lack of defenses. I don't know for certain to what extent any of that is true, whether they LIHOP, but I certainly am not denying the possibility. The question is, if you found out some criminal was planning a home invasion and you turned off your home security system and waited by the door with a shot gun and shot them when they entered your house, is that a false flag? Could you be charged with a crime? Is that a moral action? I don't think 9/11 was planned by Bin Laden, I think there was a lot of planning and pre-knowledge beforehand from intel agencies. I don't think the 9/11 hijackers flew the planes into the buildings, I think they were flown into buildings. I don't think the buildings came down on their own, I think there were pre-planted explosives. Now THAT'S a false flag. Letting down your guard and letting the enemy come in on their own accord and slaughtering hippies at a music festival and children and people in those villages, that's not exactly a false flag. You could call it a LIHOP, though. Is that a moral action? Do they want to keep living in terror forever, with rockets constantly flying over their cities? Or did they want to make it stop and this was how they chose to do it?

You debate like one of my crazy leftist friends with TDS sometimes.

You think google maps faked 360 degree street photos to get maga supporters to believe a video of a Haitian guy butchering an animal in an apartment complex is in fact in Springfield? Are you ok?

Looks legit (drop the yellow guy into street view if it isn't) https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9658649,-83.7986538,3a,60y,17.24h,79.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8-AGO3IoW48cAuur_iHqVQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D10.667574306337727%26panoid%3D8-AGO3IoW48cAuur_iHqVQ%26yaw%3D17.24168209313998!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205410&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAwMi4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

That's clearly a chicken.

Pretty bad.

This is one of the most easy and logical issues you can explain to people using basic economics. The crazy thing is you can explain the whole thing, you can give an example of a store owner selling overpriced water bottles before a storm and how one person could come in and buy it all out for $50, or you can overcharge 10x and each person comes in buying only what they need, more people end up with the goods they need before the storm, saving lives. You can explain how overpricing helps bring in more goods after the storm by encouraging entrepreneurs to risk their safety to bring in goods to a dangerous area with looters and dangerous, damaged roads, etc, saving even more lives. Most people still won't change their mind, they think the value of things is just whatever the price tag at their local store says and anybody who charges more is just being greedy.. those are usually leftists tho. That said.. I saw some of these posts on X, and 95% of the comments beneath were MAGA supporters saying price gouging during a weather emergency is a good thing..

Oh ya, that's right, they were created to fight the PLO, then it backfired. Sorta like the Mujaheddin.

Weren't they created to fight Hezbollah? Sounds like it backfired.

You don't think the invasion was justified?

I was never for the US war in Iraq.. Lol, that's one building, in all of Tel Aviv, and it is an administrative building..

Man, what a bunch of whiners. The Israel derangement syndrome in this thread is off the charts. Lebanon was launching missiles into Israel, then Israel 'invades' Lebanon and everybody here is just going to pretend like it was completely unprovoked? I mean, c'mon.. Oh they blew up a Mosque.. Well here's the problem. Muslims have blurred the lines between military bases and civilian structures and Mosques.. when was the last time you saw a military base that was also a Synagogue? Or a civilian apartment building in Israel? You people are so easily manipulated..

You sound like you’re arguing against US intervention in Iraq after 9/11… it’s not that simple. Unlike the US, Israel actually has missiles flying into their country on a semi-regular basis. What is simple is asking ChatGPT why they did it and what they targeted. Before you respond with "Ahh hah!! It says "PRE-EMPTIVE"!!" Again, not that simple.. it's not like it's pre-emptive, like they've never shot missiles at them before. More like a guy punches you, and then you punch him as he is winding up for his second punch.

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Certainly we should not have troops in Syria or be bombing Syria.. but they are their neighbors. I don't give a flying fuck anymore if Israel bombs their neighbors who are attacking them. They are at war.

I didn't say all Muslims, certainly not all Iranian Muslims, but it seems to be a majority of those in Gaza and a decent amount of the more extreme believers in other places.

Certainly not the people living in Israel.. I also think Mossad was involved in 9/11. But so was the CIA.. and Saudi Intelligence.. maybe even MI6, who knows. Again, that's not the people living in Israel, the Jews, the Christians, the US or even Saudi Arabia or the UK.

Or he just supports Israel.

TheCount linked to Vance's dossier from the Trump campaign on another thread. I doubt you read the hundreds of pages, but let me quote this part for you, there is actually quite a bit in there on this topic: If you can't find that to be highly preferable to our other options, I really don't know what to say.

Adam Dick ain't no Ron Paul.. That statement actually sounded eerily similar to what Ron Paul has said about Israel in the past. Which is that we should stop funding Israel, then it is up to them to do what they think they need to do to defend themselves. The author here took a vague statement made by Vance about supporting our allies and did some mind-reading to conclude that he meant use all of our military might and send all of our soldiers to do whatever Israel wants us to do..

This is the problem, you don't separate the Iranian people from the Iranian government. The fact that Netanyahu did just that means a lot, he's saying the people of Iran are good, the government is bad. The fact he is using libertarianesque/nationalist arguments toward the Iranian people (don't send your money off to fund wars and terrorism far away, keep it and make your own country better) sounds pretty good to me. I have no idea, he also said he is friends with school shooters. What are you talking about? I didn't say I'm going to go to your house with a gun and take your money and send it to Israel. I'm not even talking about sending my money to Israel. It's more like rooting for a football team, I'm going to root for the good (or at least, better) guys who aren't trying to wipe out the other side.. who aren't going in to massacre peaceful people at a music festival, etc..

Show me where any Muslim leaders are making statements like this about Israel... 1840740049299583355 https://x.com/i/bookmarks/all?post_id=1840740049299583355

Lol, pretty sure you have it backwards. The Palestinians want to completely eradicate the Jews from Israel and get "their" land "Palestine" back which they believe belongs all to them. I've had a shifting opinion on this over the years. I used to really like Ahmadinejad. I think he's right about a lot of things and wrong about a lot of things. But he is very intellectual and I feel like I could actually sit down and have a reasonable discussion about our disagreements. I have yet to see anyone else like that in their leadership. I doubt you could have an honest conversation with any of them. It wasn't long ago, a little over a year, I thought Israel needed to play nice too, but when Hamas went in and started slaughtering a bunch of hippies at a music festival, civilians, women and children, I'm done. I've seen what the kids in Palestine learn, they are infected with a virus. The majority of Palestinians are infected with this virus, and I don't know if there is a cure. Some Israelis are pretty extreme as well, but at least when they would go to bomb civilian buildings that housed Hamas military and equipment, they would flare the building, announce the bombing.. then Hamas would hold the civilians hostage inside the building to die, so they could use the deaths as propaganda to get more funding from Arab nations, whose goal is to eradicate Israel.

Didn't Ron Paul vote excitedly for Reagan on his first run? I think he was less excited in 1984.

Scott Adams, who did test at genius levels on the IQ test, voted for Jimmy Carter in in 1976. Like you, he no longer votes, but for different reasons. Jimmy Carter was such a bad President, he felt somewhat responsible for choosing such a horrendous candidate and decided he wasn't fit to make those kinds of important decisions. However he does advocate for candidates, like Trump, for those who are willing to throw their hat in the ring.