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    12-08-2018, 11:59 AM
    Some. Some industries and workers. You keep doing that. It has benefitted many more. But those are invisible to you. You only see the industries that can’t compete, but you entirely miss the industries that benefit from the surplus wealth. Do you not care about those American jobs?
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    12-08-2018, 12:47 AM
    See? This is where you don't know shyte about what your talking. Most of the consumables go the other way. From the US to China. They are sending us electronics, machinery, equipment, furniture, toys... that kind of thing. If they were planning on destroying economically, they couldn't be doing more of an ass-backwards job of it. https://qz.com/1232833/explore-all-506-billion-in-goods-that-the-us-imported-from-china-in-2017/ Guys, they've instilled an irrational fear in you. I get it. They want power. And they've convinced you to give it to them. It's what they do. But perhaps you could take a step into reality?
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    12-08-2018, 12:14 AM
    I get your argument, but you seem to forget that we have other potential suppliers waiting in the wings if some country foolishly tried that. It'll never happen. And even if it did, the wealth that we've been accruing in the meantime has allowed us to build more things - not less. If this magic land existed where we were cut off completely from the rest of the world, we have the wealth of resources and capability to find substitutes. Precisely, because they've been "dumping" them here. Man, I wouldn't think the principles of liberty are this hard to understand. They've instilled some strange foreign fear into your head in order to get more power. That's all this is.
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    12-07-2018, 11:18 PM
    Do you feel dependent on your gas station because they supply all your gas and you don't make any of your own? What if they shut it down on you?? You'd be SOL! Or you could just go to one of the other 20 gas stations around you who want your business. That's what true interdependence provides. Like a typical slave, you can't even envision a market that isn't being controlled. Like Ron Paul said, let other nations do as they wish, but we should lower all of our tariffs regardless of what they do. Please tell me you think Ron Paul fits your definition of a "globalist".
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    12-07-2018, 11:00 PM
    :facepalming: Interdependence is a fantastic thing if controlled by market forces. But you don't want that. You want government to control it - you just want it controlled for what you think is your benefit. Any interdependence in your mind needs to be "fair" as judged by you. Not as judged by the people doing the trading. You don't trust the market. You don't trust freedom. You want a government to control the markets for you. You are 180 degrees off of Ron Paul on this.
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    12-07-2018, 10:46 PM
    YOU are the globalist! Sheesh. You've got things so twisted to think "globalism" is about trade. "Globalism" is about world governance. And YOU want our government to govern the world. Global trade is a great thing. Hell, it's an essential thing. Put down the ring, Boromir.
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    12-07-2018, 10:31 PM
    I guess it comes down to who you trust more to determine what is "fair": The market or Boromir up there.
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    12-07-2018, 10:26 PM
    Except that not what's happening. If you were really gearing up for the slaughter of another country, the last thing you'd do is trade them goods for paper!! You'd literally be taking usable resources from your land and putting them in the enemy's land. They are making us rich. Not only in the dollars we save, but in the resources we have. And because of that wealth, we will never be dependent on a single supplier. If that's really your fear, then you aren't thinking clearly enough. Or completely enough? We certainly have other problems, including monetary problems, but it little to do with this trade discussion. Actually, Trump has actually done some good in other areas that is hiding the tariff mess. The tax cut increased the velocity of money and the regulatory slow down removed lots of wasteful corporate spending. Both of those things are really helping. (Although, the velocity thing is always good when it first starts, but it turns bad quickly.) But the tariffs? If it weren't for the other things, we'd be screwed - but at least then, we'd recognize the damage, I suppose.
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    12-07-2018, 10:09 PM
    Neocons and progressives. Always like to use that word, "fair". "Fair trade", "Fair Labor Standards", "Fair Wages", "Fair Housing", etc. It all means one thing: MOAR government control.
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    12-07-2018, 10:03 PM
    They? Who is They? You say that like You ain't They. They is you. You're a neocon who doesn't even know it. This is classic neocon behavior. Wanting to manage the economies of the world. Tariffs, blockades, sanctions, bombs, tanks, arrows and rocks. Just different weapons in the same tired old war. And you neocons think you can win the war better. Regardless of who gets hurt or how much wealth it costs.
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    12-07-2018, 09:34 PM
    You forgot the military spending to maintain the petro supplies. Include those subsidies, we're talking trillions.
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    12-07-2018, 09:21 PM
    Neocons. Always wanting war. Always thinking they can centrally plan the universe. Whether they use bombs, sanctions, or tariffs is just a matter of a which weapon of war they choose.
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    12-07-2018, 09:19 PM
    Feel like posting this in this thread. Can't figure out why...
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    12-07-2018, 08:39 PM
    Do you realize how stupid that sounds? "Foreign governments are dumping their goods on us for cheap. We need to give our government more power to stop it!" The mind of a Trump supporter. :rolleyes:
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    12-07-2018, 08:23 PM
    Listen up, Boromir. Low, uniform tariffs are preferable, but that's not what any of this is about. This is about cronyist protectionism. A vain attempt to help some industries at the expense of others. What foreign governments do to their own people is none of our interest. We should show them by our example of free markets, not by more government. We want to trade globally and govern locally. You have that backwards. You want to give politicians moar power so that they can intervene globally to what you think is your benefit. Ron Paul is right - you are wrong. Deal with it.
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    12-07-2018, 08:12 PM
    Oh joy!! Can we just get this guy and call it a day?
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    12-07-2018, 12:51 PM
    I think the word "unfair" is the key. It's definitely an advantage, but in no way is it "unfair".
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    12-07-2018, 12:08 PM
    Yep - we don't need more rules, we need less regulatory capture. When you have fewer rules, the opportunity for regulatory capture is greatly diminished. Once again, freedom is the answer.
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    12-07-2018, 11:44 AM
    It's as though people think we have a trade imbalance with the grocery store because we give them money and they give us groceries. If they have a sale on laundry detergent, they are "dumping" their soap on us, and we're supposed to be mad about it. Only a politician could twist this around so much.
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    12-07-2018, 11:27 AM
    You're still missing the point. I'm trying to explain it to you, but it's like you have a mental block there. Please consider this for a little bit. If another county is subsidizing their products to sell to us cheap, yes, it hurts Ned the hammer maker and he may lose his good wage, but it benefits the contractor, the food supplier and the material harvester. We have MORE people working not less. (which, by the way is one of the reasons why with the trade deficit being the highest it's ever been, we have near full employment) The aggregate wealth of our country is INCREASED when they "dump" their products. You keep focusing on Ned without considering all the other industries that benefit. All the other jobs that are created because each one of us saved resources when we bought the hammer. By advocating for barriers to trade to help Ned, you are advocating for the loss of jobs in the contracting, food supplying, and material harvesting industries. Does that make more sense, stated that way?? Freedom is a good thing.
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    12-07-2018, 11:03 AM
    I'm a non-interventionist. Our politicians shouldn't be meddling in other countries at all. What their politicians do is on them - but I think we'd help those people more with our example than by trying to use our government to get their political leaders to do what we think is right. Remember, "Fair" trade is force; "Free" trade is liberty. The former brings poverty and the latter brings prosperity.
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    12-07-2018, 10:51 AM
    Well, great. That's a personal decision. As long as politicians aren't trying to force your decisions to help their friends, we're cool. We all make individual decisions like this. But you must understand that your decision means that the contractor, food supplier, or material harvester is missing out on your business because you chose the hammer maker over them.
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    12-07-2018, 10:32 AM
    Seen vs. unseen. Never forget that. When you use your resources in other places, you are providing people with jobs. To continue the analogy, because you didn't have to craft your own hammers, you could spend that time and money on materials that you could turn into profit. Materials you would otherwise not have been able to buy. The people who harvest those materials are only employed because you bought a cheap hammer at the store. Or you could use your surplus for some food. And the people who supplied that food have jobs because of the cheaper hammer. Or you could understand that each small purchase allowed you to save up for a bathroom remodel. The contractor who does that work can only do it because you saved money on the hammer and other things. This is what we mean when we say that saved resources are spent on other things - you never know what they're going to be. Which is why it's unseen. You can easily see that Ned benefits from the cronyism, but you miss all the harm that is done because those future jobs are unseen and they don't have political weight.
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    12-07-2018, 06:28 AM
    The new Jeep truck was supposed to come out this year. :( I've been waiting on it, but couldn't wait any longer. I gave up my Wrangler for a temporary Cherokee. (It's a white Cherokee - I named it "Liz") Anyway, I'll be getting one of these Gladiators in a few years. Just mistimed it a little:
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  • CaptUSA's Avatar
    12-07-2018, 06:16 AM
    Easy. Because our resources are better spent on other things. Why don't you make your own hammers? Because it's less costly to you to buy them at the store. So, you can spend your time, wealth, and energy on other things of your own choosing. But if some busybody cronyist jacked up the price at the store, you'd have to either make your own, get 'em from sloppy Ned down the road who charges you more, or use a substitute. That may help Ned's business, but it screws you.
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    12-05-2018, 02:10 PM
    It's called reverse psychopathy. ;)
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