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  • luctor-et-emergo's Avatar
    Today, 10:57 AM
    The word civil stems from Latin.. The Romans were so called 'civilized', they held slaves, conquered other peoples lands, forced their laws on them. Men and women were not equal, slaves were not people at all but simply property. They watched people massacre each other for fun, they destroyed other cultures on purpose... So yeah, oh and some of the peoples they conquered, actually believed that men and women are equal, that crimes should not be punished but the guilty person would have to pay the victim or their family damages. People that did not believe in the death penalty.. And these people we generalize as "barbarians". So yeah, depending on how you look at things, you may not want to call yourself civilized. Still, words have evolved to mean different things for different people, but, in this world where everything is regulated and codified into law - a very Roman thing - you could argue that the word is still keeping to it's original meaning. In any case, if we stick to the modern meaning of "being decent and moral" (or something like that), then I'd say it's very civilized to have a beer in the cockpit but not touch it, it shows these pilots have good restraints and take their job seriously. They do not allow themselves to be distracted by the can of beer that happens to be there :rolleyes:. Personally I'd be a lot more worried if pilots would refuse to fly because there is a can of beer in the cockpit, if that is the case, they have their priorities wrong.
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  • luctor-et-emergo's Avatar
    Today, 10:50 AM
    Whut ? If I fly as a passenger I always drink a lot, no problem. I remember drinking two bottles of wine on a transatlantic flight with Alitalia, an almost empty airplane so the stewardesses told us, take what you want and left the cart in the aisle. :p Don't remember having a hard time getting alcohol in the morning either. Also I'm pretty sure in business class you get a glass of champagne in the morning, if you wish.
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  • luctor-et-emergo's Avatar
    Today, 10:40 AM
    Used to be that pilots from Air France were served a glass of wine when they were having dinner on duty. I believe this is now discontinued but this used to be normal... Now we have "IMSAFE" Illness Medication Stress Alcohol
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  • luctor-et-emergo's Avatar
    Today, 10:34 AM
    Take care TER, I will keep you in my mind. :)
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  • Anti Federalist's Avatar
    Today, 08:02 AM
    France may make wolf-whistling and asking women for their phone number a CRIMINAL offence https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4506566/france-wolf-whistling-chatting-up-telephone-number-sexism/ Surveys show virtually all French women have been harassed on public transport, in the street or elsewhere at some time By Patrick Knox 20th September 2017, 11:55 amUpdated: 20th September 2017, 2:47 pm
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  • Anti Federalist's Avatar
    Today, 07:56 AM
    Budget airline passenger stunned to spot can of Stella Artois in cockpit http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/20/budget-airline-passenger-stunned-spot-can-stella-artois-cockpit/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/09/20/TELEMMGLPICT000141140618_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqyhcbDvnCvXS99aBiZcWlD8wZgCewa-xkrckcIXHk6m8.jpeg?imwidth=1240 A photo by Steve Lewis of the can of lager in the Jet2 cockpit CREDIT: MERCURY PRESS 20 SEPTEMBER 2017 • 12:49PM
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  • Anti Federalist's Avatar
    Today, 07:52 AM
    Right, go peddle yer papers to this poor bastard getting harassed by newcomers. And to the millions of others just like him. You want urban squalor, move to Bombay.
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  • Anti Federalist's Avatar
    Today, 06:32 AM
    Would not be the first time Haitians in particular made life or death decisions based on nothing more than the words of a US politician. In the 90s they took Bill Clinton at his word that he would enact a "dry feet" refugee policy for Haitians. Tens of thousands took to small boats to sail to the US, only to find out Bill Clinton did no such thing. Hundreds, perhaps thousands, died. I saw it first hand.
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  • Anti Federalist's Avatar
    Today, 06:24 AM
    So what explains the mass migration of Haitians into Canada? Trump has not officially revoked their refugee status.
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  • Anti Federalist's Avatar
    Today, 05:13 AM
    Fuck a bunch of Elon Musk.
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  • Anti Federalist's Avatar
    Today, 05:11 AM
    For fuck's sake, don't any of you contrarian idjits fucking read? I said, in the OP, that it may all be accountable to bluster and bullshit...meaning I am well aware no significant legislation has passed changing this, but sometimes just rattling the sabers is all that is required to make people move.
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  • Anti Federalist's Avatar
    Today, 01:50 AM
    No faster way to lose personal freedom than to have a bunch of assholes move in around you. This is why I have turned into an immigration "hawk". All ya'll, fuck off, country is full, move your asses elsewhere.
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  • Anti Federalist's Avatar
    Today, 01:45 AM
    I will do that.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:11 PM
    I'm sorry, TER.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:35 PM
    Liberty-Responsibility is obscure. Libertinism has taken over and claimed libertarianism's identity. I get this stuff from knowing what I'm talking about. Ask any real anarchist what he thinks about capitalism and get back to me. Any real anarchist worth his weight in keystrokes will argue that there are capitalist transactions which are not voluntary. He'll argue that in order to maintain the structure of a capitalist society that it will require coercion which ultimately would violate anarchist principles. Ron Paul doesn't need to specifically say the words anyway. It should be commonly understood by anyone who is actually knowledgeable on the subject of Liberty-Responsibility. Respectfully, Origanalist, the fact that you even ask me where I dream this stuff up tells me that you do not understand Liberty-Responsibility. It tells me that you likely do not really understand the ism which you've inserted into discussion. Unfortunately, it just confirms my first thought in my response here. Sad. I'll tell you, man, it's really getting to the point that in order to truthfully and effectively educate people on matters of Liberty-Responsibility, we have to go against our own in order to do so. Reason being is that it's our own who have bastardized it and turned it into a libertine circus.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:02 PM
    Also, pull the modems out of your old dialup computers. Dank reminded me of that.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:00 PM
    I keep a 6 month supply of food and water and other necessities in case we have a solar flare or some other planetary mishap.
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  • Anti Federalist's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:53 PM
    Just another self loathing, bitter, authoritarian, busybody, woeman. I guess she supports what those "white" people in Nigeria are doing then, both in and out of government: FACING JAIL FOR REFUSING VACCINES IN NIGERIA https://therefusers.com/facing-jail-for-refusing-vaccines-in-nigeria/
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  • Lamp's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:44 PM
    You'll get over it.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:37 PM
    Hey, O. Thank You. Really. I share Ron Paul's position on it. Anarchy is voluntary socialism. So how is it that you think anarchy is non-socialist? Libertarianism gives full legal protection for anarchy (voluntary socialism.) That's okay with me so long as you're a true libertarian and have rejected the use of force because, then I don't have to worry about you. If you want to get together and have voluntary socialism, then, you're allowed to do that. But..I should be allowed to opt out. And therein lies the problem. Voluntary socialism is so inefficient that the socialists already know that their system is going to fail so they use the force of a government gun to come and take money and property from the people who aren't socialists in order to subsidize their program. Now, while Libertarianism allows for voluntary socialism, the socialists will never endorse the idea of you having your personal liberty where you can take care of yourself and not ask for anything from anyone else. Really, I'm just quoting our namesake here.
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  • Anti Federalist's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:34 PM
    I love nothing more than the sights, sounds and smells of a coal fired smith's shop. But it really is easy to see how beneficial mass production is, when a single die stamp press could make in 5 seconds what it took him a full day of work to make. Jah, es ver goot.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:10 PM
    Anyway. Rev, you've got more patience for the riff raff than I do. Have fun.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:09 PM
    Go color.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:08 PM
    The right to property is an indispensable, material support, of your God-given, unalienable rights to Liberty. That's the correct way to word it.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:58 PM
    You haven't even attempted to touch any argument I've made here.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:56 PM
    Property is the principal material support of a man's God-given, unalienable, rights. Your rights to life and liberty do not come from your warez. They come from God. You have your warez because God gave you the right to them. You did not give you the right to them. And you do not decide another man's unalienable rights to life and liberty.
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