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    Today, 03:10 PM
    Sadly, I have lost interest in discussing, debating, or explaining immigration restriction on this forum for the time being. But that's OK, because I'm pretty sure you never had any such interest in this issue at any time. Yes? So now we're even.
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    Today, 01:10 PM
    Dichotomies are fun, but not always all-inclusive and comprehensive. I just propose that I cannot give an unqualified endorsement to this plan that "They can all stay." I cannot give an unqualified endorsement to your new gun-putting proposal you're putting forward, either.
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    Today, 10:25 AM
    I cannot give an unqualified endorsement to this plan that "They can all stay." Sorry to break unanimity.
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    07-22-2016, 08:26 AM
    Twitter has a government? Or they have created a special account that somehow "The Government" (of the US) controls? I don't get it. What a stupid thing Twitter is anyway. Speaking of our devolution into lazy idiots.
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    07-21-2016, 01:15 PM
    I did answer. The answer was yes, twice over. Allow me to answer again: "Yes, Mr. 3point0, there is data for historical V and C levels." I hope that clarifies. But no, I rather think it will simply lead to some snarky response in which you demand more work from me, work which I know perfectly well you will respond to by inserting lines of snarkiness between my lines. To what end? To what end, Mr. 3.0? To what end. You want to be convinced something you know nothing about is false? Guess what: you've already succeeded! You're there! Congratulations! No further work or typing is necessary on either of our parts. We both win. I win by saving my time to do something productive. You win by demonstrating me to be a buffoon and a nincompoop whose ideas are ridiculous bunkum, as one and all here can see very clearly you have done (no doubt).
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    07-21-2016, 12:04 PM
    Tight is a systematic system, a moral philosophy, an "ism" as you say. Loose would be just taking the attitude "Eh, whatever works." No system. Of course, to anticipate you, I do realize that in a sense the lack of a system in itself is a system. "Yes, you do have a philosophy!" and good old Robert LeFevre put it.
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    07-21-2016, 11:58 AM
    There is data, lots of data. The alleged "no data" we were discussing referred to US property crime statistics. Don't play psychological games. C and V are real, tangible, and biological. As I said, one might even be able to bring paleontology into it and find the markers in well-preserved ancient specimens (mummies?). This is interesting, cutting-edge research, and by far the most innovative thing going on in the field of history right now, as well as the one with the most important and far-reaching conclusions. Bottom line: you are not qualified to have an opinion on any of this. You know nothing about it. You have not read any books about it. I am happy that you challenged me, but I have now answered all your questions and you are reduced to mere snarkiness. Sad. I hate to see you this way. Pro tip: Just read the book. (One of the two. I'll link you to the short one.)
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    07-21-2016, 09:20 AM
    Umm, no.... don't know where that's coming from! :confused:
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    07-21-2016, 07:24 AM
    Hey, thanks Ender. And I don't care about this issue nearly as much as I made it sound. Nor do I hate all musicians. Make it a great day.
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    07-21-2016, 07:20 AM
    Look at the bright side: at least all the kids are still alive.
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    07-21-2016, 06:39 AM
    Yes. Like most all data, more as one approaches modernity, of course, but yes. That is a possibility, actually. Well, but we have your "sense", and that's better than data, right? You'd make a great historian (not!). Newsflash: all data is based on observation. You mayn't sensibly dismiss massive observational evidence and maintain any semblance of scientific integrity. Observation *is* data! Perhaps I should take all these overwhelmingly strong observations one-sidedly supporting one conclusion and collate them into a chart and then maybe you could comprehend them, yes? Especially if it had bright, primary colors.
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    07-20-2016, 10:39 PM
    You make good points, Occam, but perhaps idiom just meant he wants to take a more utilitarian approach, being fed up with the dead ends, loop-de-loops, and contradictions to which he perceives a pure moralistic approach to have lead him. Utilitarian in the loose sense, as in practical. Workable. That's the impression I got anyway. I do not share idiom's disillusion with anarcho-capitalism, but I can understand the frustration in seeing/realizing that free market replacements for the state would be able to do many of the same things the state can, if one really doesn't want anyone to be able to do these particular acts, no matter what.
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    07-20-2016, 10:24 PM
    Awesome post, idiom! That is exactly what I was interested in. I can see where you're coming from. I'll have to think about what you've said. I don't have all the answers, that's for sure! Is it Rand's non-fiction you're reviewing? If so, is that any good? I've read all her fiction books, I think, and very much liked them (except for the first depressing one set in Russia). Awesome, awesome post.
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    07-20-2016, 10:18 PM
    You didn't look them up? Where's your intellectual curiosity? Jim Penman, Biohistory. Both C and V are sets of physiological attributes in humans (and other mammals) expressing and detectable in blood tests and hormone levels. That's the "bio" part of "Biohistory". As I mentioned, and as you also doubtless know if you are over the age of ten, adults universally express this observation that things used to be safer, that they used to have more trust, less crime, etc., that no one locked their front doors. It is a fact that cars did not generally used to be locked, and in fact going back one generation further could not be w/o customization because there were no locks installed by the manufacturers. In the absence of statistics, people's cumulative memory, observations, and life experiences are what we have to go by. I do not think these near-universal observations can be dismissed.
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    07-20-2016, 09:55 PM
    We're all doomed.
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    07-20-2016, 02:56 PM
    Thank you for challenging me! Actually, just means that it's more complicated. The vigor, martiality, and aggressiveness of Western society has been falling for (a few) centuries. Its peak, at least in England, was probably around the 16th century, as evidenced by the extremely harsh punishments, extreme patriarchy, and all other factors going along with high-V (for Vigor). Murder and other violent crime is likely correlated with V, I would hypothesize. Testing would prove out whether I am right or not. If we're going to talk short-term, as in decades rather than millenia, which is likely all you're concerned about (few people are weird like me), then lemming cycles probably play a bigger role. This is the natural cycle between high V -- aggressiveness, expansionism, fighting spirit -- and high C -- diligence, non-confrontationality, innovation, economic success. Short-term murder rate variation fits the lemming cycle pretty nicely, take a look: Anyway, all this is violent crime. Non-violent crime is another story. Non-violent crime has been rising for the past century. Dishonesty has become epidemic. The multi-century trough of property crime (the peak of honesty) was likely around 1880 in America. Perhaps a little earlier in the North, a little later in the South. Look, everyone knows this. We used to be able to leave our doors unlocked. There used to be far less theft, vandalism, and other property crime. Statistics are spotty, but the trend has been so pronounced we don't even need them. It's been obvious to everyone who has lived long enough. Crime is kind of a side-annoyance, anyway. Not really a huge deal. Other than the people who are slaughtered or robbed by it. The huge deal is if civilization collapses. That kind of... can be bad. When that happens. Don't want that happening. You really should look into this Biohistory stuff, 3.0. You'd love it. Get the book. Plus study up on r vs. K strategies. Actually, first read Hoppe's Short History of Man. Totally pro-monarchy, and I know you're all about that. It'll prime your intellectual gears up for Biohistory.
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    07-20-2016, 09:09 AM
    It has more, nay all, to do with the temperament and culture of the people. The world really contains virtually no security nor safeguards against crime. Civilization is a wide-open candy store. Oh yes, we make token shows of defense against certain crimes, mostly against theft by putting locks on things. But how defended are any of us against murder? Murder is a much more serious crime. Your car may have a security system protecting it somewhat from theft. But what devices do you have on you as a murder-prevention? If someone were to come up behind your back and shoot you, what would happen? I'll tell you: you will die*. That's it! You had implemented no security measures against that possibility whatsoever. So how come there's more theft than murder? Ponder that. If even 5% of the population decided "forget the rules, all rules, I'm a gangsta and gangstas gonna spree" that would be the end of civilization. Nothing would be able to operate as it does today any longer. So crime-ridden places, like Ferguson, it's a result of the temperament, upraising (lack thereof), genetics, and intelligence (lack thereof) of the people, and then temperamental network effects. Events, such as a withdrawal of police, can activate a network effect and exacerbate the problem. If consequences for armed robbery suddenly plummet to negligible levels due to a decision to withdraw from the area and stop enforcing laws against armed robbery, then that behavior will increase in short order, due to the bad character of the people. In another location, however, the withdrawal of the police might actually have a salutary effect, due to the good character of the people. For in addition to increasing consequences for real crime -- that is, for enforcing real laws, which, we will all admit, police do do -- police also often have a symbiotic relationship with the criminal element, most especially due to the drug war. In this, their ubiquitous presence and enforcement actions actually perversely increase the dangerousness and criminality of a neighborhood.
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    07-20-2016, 08:37 AM
    Yes, yes, right-o. Well-expressed. You have explained your line of thinking on this before, though, repeatedly. You and I, we've been around here a long time, idiom! So I already understand all that. I understand your criticisms of other people's ideas of liberty. But what I am interested in is what your conception of liberty is.
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    07-19-2016, 03:15 PM
    Ha, ha! A lot of libertarians have come from the hippie path and have that background. I totally get that.
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    07-19-2016, 03:09 PM
    Highly doubtful, but perhaps idiom thinks so and can explain.
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    07-19-2016, 03:03 PM
    Dispute resolution organization
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