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    02-26-2017, 07:37 PM
    On that note, I'm going to Costa Rica in the morning (Thank you). I appreciate the debate and relish in the fact that the silent (Internet) majority loves a good fight. It's been fun!
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    02-26-2017, 06:26 PM
    We will see. One thing that is known is that Trump is not a Neocon. The Neocons are the Nevertrumpers. I never intended to defend Trump but facts are facts.
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    02-26-2017, 03:01 PM
    I stand by my words. In a "Would You Rather" Scenerio, Trump is preferable to Hillary, hands down and it's not even close. Trump just appointed a Constitutionalist (not a Libertarian but I'll take it) to the Supreme Court and instituted a one-in-two-out policy for all Federal Regs. Your hatred for Red Team is clouding your judgement, my young padawan. Much to learn you still have.
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    02-25-2017, 01:15 PM
    Thanks for the link. This is disturbing; you never want a President in massive debt (especially without knowing his assets in full). I will look into this more and get back to you. Although, regardless of Trump's debts, you are constantly trying and failing to paint me as a Trump Supporter (and talk radio for some strange reason). I support American Patriots fighting for our country. My point is that Bannon sounds and acts like an American Patriot and you have failed to prove otherwise with your nonsensical arguments and name calling. Very crude and childish. Just don't. You don't know me or my work. Your lust to win an argument with name calling and character assassination is a new low on your part. Making statements such as this makes me, truly, feel bad for you.
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    02-25-2017, 08:54 AM
    So Trump is in hock to Goldman and the Bank of China? Show me your sources, I'll analyze them and get back to you. Otherwise this is just hear say. I'm sorry you can't see what I see, but Trump, Farage, Le Pen, and the rest of the Nationalists sweeping the West have the wind at their backs. Somehow you see this as a blow to human freedom. I see it as a step in the right direction and an opportunity to devolve power further. No need for name calling. It sounds juvenile and hurts your argument.
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    02-24-2017, 04:27 PM
    Hostile Takeover... love it!!
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    02-24-2017, 04:23 PM
    If you read the OP, I said Bannon sounded like he was on our side and that I believed he was a Patriot from what I had heard (from him). Then I invited anyone to tell me I'm wrong by quoting something he has said or by producing evidence to past statist transgressions. What I got in return was mostly baseless claims and feelings about the "enemy" Bannon. Granted, I am worried about Bannon on two fronts: He favors excessive military size & worships the police (Check out Brietbart). I will only give him the benefit of the doubt because I believe that both the Military and Police are "Keys to Power". Trump, and the Nationalists, would have already been ousted from power (if they even would had gotten there) if he was opposed to either the police or military. I believe that Trump will try to take care of the veterans, increase military pay, and provide better benefits but I doubt he will put up with monstrous waste at the Pentagon & security agencies. I doubt he will start wars of aggression and create more Wounded Warriors. I doubt he will create more laws for the police to enforce that violate our Natural Born Rights and might even repeal some Federal Laws. He might even appoint a few more Constitutionalist to the Supreme Court. We will see.
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    02-24-2017, 03:31 PM
    +1 I agree it's not completely black and white but, with that said, I think Bannon (as the nationalist figure in play) is an asset and not a liability. I would be much more afraid of the Trump Adminstration if Bannon was not in his ear. We will see how it plays out. Overall, the reason I am fiercely defending Bannon is that I'm sick and tired of everyone, including members of RPF, having these incredibly strong options without any evidence or facts to back them up. If we are going to debate, bring your facts and I'll bring mine. Keep your focus but have an open mind. If you provide real tangible evidence that Bannon is a globalist hack, I will be the first to give credit. The video in the OP is the first time I ever heard Bannon speak. His speech was and is much different than the man portrayed on this site and many others (The Crypt Keeper). Bannon deserves a fair shake like everyone does and like Dr. Paul never got. Don't be the same kind of people that would never listen to Dr. Paul.
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    02-24-2017, 02:37 PM
    Hamiltonianism is a stepping stone to Wilsonianism if you start from a Hamiltonian Country. If you live in a Wilsonian country, Hamiltonism is totally a step in the right direction (back to Jeffersonianism). The Globalists hate Steve Bannon and you guys want to portray him as someone carrying water for the globalist. I'm not buying it without the facts to back it up. Because all Nationalists are Hitler.... :rolleyes: give me a break. And please, if you could, articulate for me where I have advocated for an increase in "centralized national power". I would love to hear it. (Hint: All of the power is already there! Brought to you by the Globalists. We need to return this power to the States and the People. Can't do that if your country is controlled by foreigners.) I would love for you to prove that Bankers have more control over Trump than Obama or Bush. This is utter and complete nonsense with zero facts to back it up. Provide some facts if your going to make claims like this.
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    02-24-2017, 01:50 PM
    Justin Amash, Thomas Massie, Brat and Rand come to mind but, to me, the Liberty Movement is about the people. If you want freedom at the State or local level, it's time to elect state or local Nationalists (Go California!!!!). You want people who take sovereignty seriously and refuse to capitulate to the globalists. I know many liberty activists at the local level who are working their butts off in the pursuit of liberty. They are the Liberty Movement. Keyword being Movement. Typing will not suffice.
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    02-24-2017, 01:31 PM
    A Hamiltonian, like a Jeffersonian, is an individual influenced by the writings and words of these men. Hamilton, the man, was a closet globalist BUT his writings were textbook Nationalist. (Jefferson had slaves but that had nothing to do with Jeffersonianism) Look at the Federalist Papers and his "American System". The American System consisted of three parts: 1. National Bank (Not controlled by globalists) 2. Protective Tariffs 3. Internal Improvements (Infrastructure Projects) This is textbook Bannon. Just because Hamilton was a Globalist British agent does not mean that all those influenced by Hamilton are in the same camp. I believe that Bannon is an honest Hamiltonian mixed with some Jacksonian strongman tactics for the purpose of smashing the Deep State. Turns out Trump is a fan of Jackson as well. He put a Portrait of him in the Oval Office. As I have said many times. I would rather fight Hamiltonians one-on-one after we work together to defeat the Wilsonian Globalists. The Wilsonian's who gave us:
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    02-24-2017, 11:51 AM
    (Establishment) Republicans hate Bannon. Where did you get the idea I'm a Republican? Bannon's an American Patriot. Until I see him sell out (with real proof) I will support him. I will support any Patriot trying to break the Globalist system. Patriots aren't all Rothbardian Indivdualists, but that is okay when you have a common enemy. You disagree with me because you see Bannon as a Goldman Stoogie who is co-opting the Liberty Movement. I disagree with you because I see Bannon as a Patriotic (Hamiltonian) Nationalist who is in a unique situation to cut the knees off the Deep State and restore American Sovereignty. Putting the Liberty Movement in a position to capitalize on the paradigm shift and promote decentralization. One of us is right but none of this has to do with Republicans.
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    02-24-2017, 09:45 AM
    BTW here is Bannon (and Priebus) at CPAC for those who care:
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    02-24-2017, 09:31 AM
    Your closed, isolationist mind will be your downfall. All able-bodied American Patriots are necessary in our fight with the International Bankers, including those we may disagree with. Whether nationalist or individualist, we have a common enemy with massive resources and a lust to dominate all nations, all peoples, and all individuals. If you refuse to work with others to forward a common goal (political independence & sovereignty) then you are your own worst enemy. P.S. Even Dr. Paul worked with Barney Frank on civil liberties. It's call coalition building and it's effective in changing heart and minds. Your grandstanding helps no one.
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    02-20-2017, 09:16 AM
    Nor I. It's incredible how the NeverTrumper's, who were screaming bloody murder before the election about how Trump would be worse than (or as bad as) Hillary, are now trying to save face by condemning Trump for outing the corporate-globalist propaganda outlets. The only argument they have is: Ignore the facts, ignore the mans actions, personally attack anyone with an open mind, and keep moving forward with the narrative. I mean at this point to admit failure would take a degree of self-shaming and (mental) teenagers are not good at such self-reflection. Poor babies.
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    02-19-2017, 06:35 PM
    +1. The wind is at our back.
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    02-19-2017, 06:27 PM
    True. Over 90% of welfare goes to the Bankers. It's also true that Bannon worked for Goldman (The Devil) Sachs from 1985 to 1990. Before working at Goldman he was a US Naval Officer and after he made a small fortune by investing in part-ownership of Seinfeld re-runs and became a Hollywood filmmaker. We will see if Bannon is spewing BS to "Make the World Safe for Goldman Sachs" shortly. I think Bannon has had a unique career and has done a lot since he left Goldman. Back in the 80's who wouldn't have wanted to work for Goldman Sachs (pre-Red Pill)? I probably would have. Is he a Rothbardian Anarco-Capitalist? No. Does he talk about the fraud that is Fractional Reserve Banking? No, but neither does anyone else including Dr. Paul & Rand (God, Rand if only your balls weren't locked in McConnell's purse). Dude, I re-watched the video and typed it out myself. I'm not a wizard. Thank you for your kind words but I don't have respect for any people in power. I do realize, however, when an individual, or group, can be beneficial to my cause (liberty). If the establishment splinters and goes to war with itself I will cheer the rebel faction on if they intend on smashing the deep state. When the deep state is weakened we will have one hell of an opportunity to provide the people with an alternative.
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    02-19-2017, 05:02 PM
    We will see shortly. I think you can concede that much of the Bannon bashing is done fast and loose with the facts. I definitely see a problem with the "rebuild the military" talk. But, and this is a big but, this could easily be a well crafted insurance policy designed to rob the globalist of a major key to power. Assassination become much harder when the police and military are on Trump's side. This is the main reason Trump is driving the civilian intelligence agencies (CIA/CNN) crazy. Back to the military budget, do you really think Trump and Bannon are really going to put up with $60 hammers and toilet seats when they take control of the Pentagon budget? The military could be fully armed with the latest technology for $100 billion if the budget was done right. If Trump (and Bannon) raises the military budget I'll denounce him for it. Until then, I'll reserve judgement. More on "Keys to Power" from Rules for Rulers: https://youtu.be/rStL7niR7gs
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    02-19-2017, 02:13 PM
    Two current articles to help make my point: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/02/lew-rockwell/break-usa/ http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-18/retired-green-beret-warns-deep-states-utopia-oligarchs-enslavement-and-complete-cont
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    02-19-2017, 12:32 PM
    I apologize for no mans sins but my own. Is Steve Bannon perfect? No. Do I believe that he cares about the American People? Yes. Do I see him as an ally in our fight for Liberty? Yes. If you want to purify the Liberty Movement and exclude anyone who might not agree 100% with Locke, Cato, Bastiat, Ricardo, Mises, Hayek or Rothbard take a look at the success of the Libertarian Party. An irrelevant group of nobodies (much preferable to the relevant lunatics in the D/R uniparty) who fundamentally misunderstand the psychology of the people. The way I will fight for liberty is simple. I will support anyone if they have a position that increases my (and your) freedom. Even if I disagree with you on 90% of the issues, if we can find common ground we can work together. I don't care if you're a hardcore California Democrat; I will support you if you promote the end to the Wars (Terror & Drugs), vaccine choice, raw milk, legal prostitution, community policing, "small is beautiful", "question authority" etc. I also don't care if you are a hardcore Bible-Belt Republican; I will support you if you promote guns rights, private property rights, the devolution of power (states rights), homesteading, competing currencies, "live free or die", etc. I am playing the long game. You would be surprised how many people would support us if they weren't brainwash by public schools (and yes I am a public school teacher) and the media. The Nationalist "Hamiltonian" Movement that we are currently witnessing, with Trump and Bannon at the helm, is not fundamentally opposed to our libertarian ideals codified in the Declaration of Independence like the globalists are. They want to "Make America Great Again" (and greater than ever before). We want to "Make America Free Again" (and freer than ever before). We have a lot of common ground and a lot to work with here. Think of all the positives: 1. The Media is exposed. 2. The Uniparty is exposed.
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    02-19-2017, 11:54 AM
    He's not Ron Paul but exactly where is Bannon wrong?
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    02-18-2017, 10:39 AM
    You guys are unreal. Refusing to watch the video and demanding I provide you with notes. Classic non-argument. But, just to end this once and for all, I'll rewatch it and post a few quotes that I like. Don't have time to watch it right now but I'll post it later today. You're welcome.
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    02-17-2017, 05:49 PM
    If this comes to fruition I will, obviously, change my position. At that point, Bannon's actions will speak louder than his words. Until then I will remain skeptical of blind Bannon support and blind Bannon bashing. I will ride the facts to the end. Let's see where they take us.
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    02-17-2017, 05:12 PM
    Thank you for providing the definition. Sounds like National Socialism to me. My issue is that if you watch the OP Video I doubt you will find any of what you described. Bannon does not fit that definition (of Alt-Right) from my research.
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    02-17-2017, 05:06 PM
    Thank you and I hope you're right. I see this unfolding differently. I see the globalists using the U.S. Military to destroy nations (War on Terror/Drugs) and import people who have no education and/or understanding of individual rights to democratic western nations for the purpose of keeping (pretend socialist) globalist politicians in power (and in the process stirring local populations into irrational fear) while the Elite position us for Civil War right before they raise interest rates and destroy (what's left) of the U.S. Economy. I don't think the rigged markets will be able to hold forever so I don't believe we will be able to educate all of these new immigrants (many of which do not speak English) before the economy goes to hell in a hand basket. I would rather control the border and call off the wars (on terror and drugs) right now than allow confused and (justifiably) angry, socialists and theocrats to waltz into this country before the powder keg blows.
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    02-17-2017, 04:07 PM
    Where did I say I'm against immigration? I'm against unfettered immigration when you have magnets (welfare, free school, etc) and a government dead set on undermining the property rights of American citizens. Globalist are using immigrants to turn democracy into a weapon to transform America. The goal is to dilute the belief in private property and individual rights (including guns) amongst the population. This has nothing to do with race or religion (they will call you racist if you oppose them but they don't really care about immigrants). These people are being imported because they are socialists and will help the elite erode your individual (property) rights. And you think I'm an enemy of freedom. Boy, do they have you guys fooled.
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    02-17-2017, 03:44 PM
    We (some of us - mostly white dudes) were freer a century ago. Smaller units of governments are always preferable to larger ones. If you abolished the Federal Government, some state governments would want to have a larger government (state healthcare, abolish guns, etc.) than they currently do. I would align myself with them to take down the Feds. In the same way, I will align with nationalist to take down global government. Let me ask you a few opposing questions to crystalize my position: Would you support a world dictator if he promised to respect natural rights and create a libertarian paradise? Do you believe that would be a free world? Would you force people to be free? I think you know my answer.
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    02-17-2017, 03:38 PM
    1. The fact that you linked to the (Socialist) Toilet Paper of Record is rich. You truly believe the New York Times would feature an unbiased critique of Steve Bannon? Give me a break, this is actually a badge of honor. 2. I don't even think you read the article because nothing within it proves your point. Actually, it looks like it proves mine. Here is one example: 3. The (Original, Real) Tea Party Started with Ron Paul on Dec. 16th, 2007 with the 234th Anniversary of the BTP (I get that your late to the party). 4. You my friend, are a partisan hack who can't understand that you must make allies with people who do not always agree with you 100% (I learned this from Dr. Paul). It's not shilling if I'm asking you to look at the hard, cold facts and hear someone out in their own words. What you are doing is a political hit job. You have no facts to back up your claims so you revert to name calling (groomed-poodle, republican monetary ignoramus, warmonger, etc.). This is child's play and you should be ashamed of yourself. Come back with some actual facts if you want to have an adult conversation.
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    02-16-2017, 06:19 PM
    Nice try, I'm neither a Republican nor Democrat (sorry to destroy your right-left worldview). In every election I vote for the candidate that will move us closest to a libertarian world. Your problem is you don't understand the concept of decentralization. Before a libertarian world is possible we must take back our country from globalist parasites. Steve Bannon is an asset to that cause. Instead of name calling how about you tell me where I'm wrong. Tick, tick, tick...
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    02-15-2017, 04:44 PM
    Bannon could totally be a covert reptilian. Until we have evidence to prove he's not, I'll reserve my judgement. If you could provided (any) evidence one way or another I'll be happy to look into it (scientific method in the house). Btw Reptilian=Warmonger
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