familydog
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BSWPaulsen again.

Yes, we all know you hate Trump. We got it the first hundred times you said it. If you want to have a discussion about Rand Paul, then let's do it. Otherwise, my comment did not pertain to Trump and you are more than welcome to exit this exchange. I am not interested in talking about Trump in this thread. You will not hijack my replies.

When did I mention Trump? I see TDS isn't just a disease of Democrats.

Rand has been derelict of duty ever since endorsing Mitt Romney for President. People here just like to pretend he is some kind of principled liberty advocate.

"The Democrats are the real racists!" That line has worked so many times in the past, there is no reason to think it won't work now.

Liz Cheney represents the State that gave Trump the largest margin of victory of any State in the country.

You are correct. However, the right and libertarians never push those boundaries. Remember when Colorado tried to force a Christian baker to bake a cake for a gay wedding? Why didn't the right and libertarians try to force a Muslim baker to bake a bacon flavored cake for a Christian wedding? Let's see what the government and court system would have done then. The right and libertarians just whine about hypocrisy like it matters.

"Trump should sue the various State governments over voter fraud and unconstitutional elections." What could possibly go wrong?

Imagine thinking you know exactly what happened with fraud without any court having any evidentiary hearings on the matter. I'm not interested in anyone who swallowed an entire bottle of blue pills.

Ah, yes. The cynical black pilled crowd finally shows up. The more Republicans abandon Trump, the more I like him. I despise the GOP.

This may be true, but I would put more weight into the "source" if it wasn't reported by Cernovich.

It's cute that you think there is any difference between respectable mainstream Republicans and Democrats.

Exactly. Its cute to see people here think that Ron Paul or any other libertarian would fare any better. In fact, they would fare much, much worse than Trump. Libertarians had four years to align with the right just as Rothbard suggested. They blew it. Now they will permanently pay the price.

Yes, putting half the country into a state of perpetual minority status always works out well. I dare them.

Same here, but how likely is it to be peaceful?

Nobody within the federal government, sure. But plenty of people outside of it will indeed help him.

Diffusing the situation would essentially be talking people out of violence or violent thoughts. You don't do that by forcibly removing the President from office. Particularly a couple of weeks before he is set to leave said office.

Rand endorsed him because Rand is a coward. He would rather be in McConnell and Romney's good graces then take a damn stand at the most crucial time.

The fight has just begun.

If you're rooting for literal civil war, then you're rooting for this outcome. People are wound up and no one is even bothering to diffuse the situation.

Agreed on all points. The left wins because they know they can resort to unethical and violent actions and the right/libertarians will respond with speeches and harumphs.

Fair enough. Perhaps lack of fight is why his movement dried up and got replaced with what we see now.

Defenders of the Constitution like Rand and Massie apparently are fine with unconstitutional elections. 'Cause, Trump.

Perhaps we will find out on the Liberty Report. We don't have to speculate.

Certainly ineffective at the very least. Rand always played too much footsy with the Establishment. He has now officially disrobed and assumed the position with it. The sad part is that the left will still hate him and CNN will not say anything nice. Maybe Neil Cavuto will give him a high five.

This is why Rand failed to take over his father's movement. This is why he is a failed presidential candidate. This is why he will forever be irrelevant in the grand scheme of American politics. A defender of liberty with no teeth. He is useful toady for the Establishment and he will remain that forever.

Perhaps prior to the election they did want to adhere to the Constitution. That is all very much in doubt at this point. The right and the MAGA crowd seem to be realizing that you don't bring arguments and a speech to a knife fight.

How is it ironic? The Constitution has been a dead letter since 1865. The great unwashed are finally waking up to that fact. I work with the general public and so many people have asked "what is the point of the Constitution if it can't guarantee free and fair elections?" The 2020 election was conducted unconstitutionally. Anything that happens afterwards regarding it cannot be judged on whether those actions are Constitutional or not. The court system has told us its a free-for-all now.