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    04-02-2020, 09:28 AM
    thanks. you are right. my native language uses the term respirator for the english meaning of ventilators :)
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    04-01-2020, 08:30 AM
    That quote does not talk about evaporation. I talks about chemical reactions with surfaces and water de/absorbtion from viridae at the water/virus boundary. Still a good publication, though :)
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    04-01-2020, 08:11 AM
    I think the motivation is key. I am currently working on an information campaign that provides an unbiased account of what it actually means to be hooked up to a respirator. I think people should make those decisions on the prospect of their personal chance of survival and long term complications, not on the supply or greater good reasoning. My parents have have living wills with exclusions of respirators for a long time.
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    04-01-2020, 08:07 AM
    Totally agree. People in Asia have been wearing masks against smog for a long time. Thats why they have ample supply.
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    04-01-2020, 08:05 AM
    Yeah filters are sufficient in the sizes you mention. A single virus has about 0.05 microns (50 nanometers) in diamenter, but those droplets are several microns big. Viruses are dispersed inside these droplet clouds (aerosols). Consider disinfecting the filters by cooking them in water or putting them into the oven every once in a while. be careful that they dont catch fire in the oven :)
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    04-01-2020, 07:30 AM
    Just a little bit of perspective: More people are dying in winter than in summer, every year. That itself has nothing to do with Covid19. Death rates are seasonal and affected by respiratory illnesses (influenza!, covid19 etc), depression, lack of sunlight and social contacts etc. The real question is: Are current death rates above the long term average? As you can see below, there are about 260k deaths during winter months in the US. The current total death toll since January of Corona is: 4000 4000/260000 = 0.015 = 1.5% of deaths. RIP to the other 98.5% as well! The fluctuation of deaths by year is much bigger than 1.5%.
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    04-01-2020, 06:56 AM
    Dr Birx (Trumps advisor) based her projections solely on Italy in yesterday's press conference. The Italian numbers are probably not falsified (contrary to the Chines), but still, why pick the worst possible country and not include countries like Germany that have much lower numbers on a per capita basis.
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    04-01-2020, 03:58 AM
    There are so many unknowns that any model inevitably has a huge margin of error, no offense OP: 1. some variables that the goverment or any human for that matter can NOT influence What is the quota of assymptomatic patients, ie what is the actual number of infected, not the number of tested? How are environmental effects (temperature and humidity) affecting the spread? How is pollution affecting the death rate? How are genes, including blood type, affecting the death rate? Why are men representing 60-70% of deaths? What is the age pyramid looking like in a given area? Spread of pre-exisiting conditions, including obesity and smoking, in a given population?
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    04-01-2020, 03:44 AM
    Unfortunately, the study you cited does not include evaporation. This mention of humidity is important. However, you have to look at the combination of humidity and temperature (and pressure). Water droplets evaporate if the humidity level is below the natural balance between liquid and gasesous water at a given temperature and pressure (thermodynamic equilibrium of the liquid and gaseous phase). Water droplets are condensing into larger droplets that fall down more easily if humidity is well above that balance (ie rain in nature). Higher temperatures allow for higher humidity, ie the 50% value means more actual water vapor in the air at higher temperatures. Here is the vapor pressure curve for water As you can see, the amount of water vapor in equilibrium with droplets becomes more significant above 70 F. Looking at the spread of corona in different parts of the US it is quite curious that large warm and rather dry cities like LA, Houston, Dallas have not experienced a massive outbreak (yet).
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    03-31-2020, 05:19 PM
    words cant describe how angry I am at these people: Fauci: Mask-wearing recommendation under ‘very serious consideration’ Administration officials have offered varying assessments of the mitigation measure in recent days. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/31/fauci-mask-recommendation-coronavirus-157476
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    03-31-2020, 05:13 PM
    This is what I am talking about in the OP https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8173075/Woman-90-dies-coronavirus-Belgium-refusing-ventilator.html Woman, 90, dies from coronavirus in Belgium after refusing a ventilator and telling doctors: 'I had a good life, keep this for the younger' and also interesting: the family were baffled as to how their mother could have contracted the virus as she had stayed at home and was complying carefully with lockdown measures. may she rest in peace.
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    03-31-2020, 05:10 PM
    What is the source? I would like to give this to someone who is comparing goverment measures.
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    03-31-2020, 12:21 PM
    That infographic is pure gold. Thanks for putting it onto the front page. This should on drudge 24/7.
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    03-31-2020, 11:09 AM
    They should have just told the truth: we dont have enough for everyone and we are prioritizing the health care system. But instead, they lied and said masks are ineffective. Imagine the grassroots efforts to produce masks if they had just been honest.
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    03-31-2020, 03:56 AM
    its not just the surveillance part. there is also the vaccination part and the nationalisation of health care in this document. The AEI is an influential think tank, this has to be taken very seriously.
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    03-30-2020, 06:04 PM
    The state of Hesse is where Frankfurt (am Main) is located. It is the financial hub of Germany with the headquarters of the European central bank (ECB) and Deutsche Bank which has been in massive trouble for a long time. A former governor of Hesse said in a video interview today that he would never have expected this guy to commit suicide under any circumstances
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    03-30-2020, 05:59 PM
    This Swiss project is brandnew. Its run by a great team and I am asking you guys to please spread this info. I suggested something like this here before Here is the developpers page on a Swiss hackathon page: https://devpost.com/software/immunity-certificate-blockchain-secured-proof-of-immunity
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    03-30-2020, 05:50 PM
    That guy should be sued together with FOX, the CDC and the surgeon general.
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    03-30-2020, 10:01 AM
    He neg repped you because you are debating instead of discussing. This shouldnt be about winning an argument at all costs, this should be about truth. The whole point of this thread was to show an alternative to the current measures that ultimately costs LESS lives.
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    03-30-2020, 06:47 AM
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-austria/austria-to-make-basic-face-masks-compulsory-in-supermarkets-idUSKBN21H16A Austria will require shoppers to wear basic face masks in supermarkets in a bid to slow the still too-rapid spread of the coronavirus, Chancellor Sebastian Kurz said on Monday. Austria has closed schools, restaurants, bars, cultural venues and other gathering places, including non-essential shops. People have been told to stay at home and work from there if possible. The country has reported 108 deaths and more than 9,000 cases so far, fewer than its neighbors Italy and Switzerland and within its health system’s capacity for now, but Kurz said its intensive care capacity could be exceeded by mid-April. “As of the moment these masks are handed out in front of supermarkets it will be compulsory to wear them in supermarkets,” Kurz said, adding that the aim in the medium-term was for people to wear them in public more generally as well.
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    03-30-2020, 04:45 AM
    Added a TLDR to the OP for the speed readers: 1. The data does not show a difference in the rate of spread between countries that have enacted draconian social distancing versus the countries that mostly just use face masks, gloves and frequent hand and surface cleaning/disinfection. 2. It costs about 10 times less to equip an entire population with 3 masks, 3 pairs of gloves and a gallon of rubbing alcohol per day compared to a draconian lockdown. 3. The cost of the protective equipment and cleaners is less than 5 dollars per day and person. Compare that to the 1200 dollars that the goverment is dumping on everyone and the 2+ trillion in corporate wellfare.
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    03-30-2020, 04:42 AM
    Health care workers touch sick patients in closed rooms while the patients are not wearing masks. If you had read my entire post, you would have seen the point that masks are about the protection of the other person by stopping virally loaded spit and slime droplets that you are exhaling / emitting. That is why they only work if everybody wears them. Health care workers are much more exposed than the average person. And they are overworked.
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    03-30-2020, 04:38 AM
    How does the quality of a hospital or the per capity availability of beds change the rate of spread outside of the hospital? Argument is invalid.
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    03-30-2020, 04:37 AM
    That correlation does not hold true for Seol, South Korea or Tokio, Japan (3 times bigger than NY). South East Asians understand hygiene way better than NYers.
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    03-29-2020, 05:41 PM
    EDIT: TLDR for the speed readers 1. The data does not show a difference in the rate of spread between countries that have enacted draconian social distancing versus the countries that mostly just use face masks, gloves and frequent hand and surface cleaning/disinfection. 2. It costs about 10 times less to equip an entire population with 3 masks, 3 pairs of gloves and a gallon of rubbing alcohol per day compared to a draconian lockdown. 3. The cost of the protective equipment and cleaners is less than 5 dollars per day and person. Compare that to the 1200 dollars that the goverment is dumping on everyone and the 2+ trillion in corporate wellfare. --------- The following proposal is more than a thought experiment. It is basically enacted in South Korea, according to the leading epidemiologist in South Korea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAk7aX5hksU
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    03-29-2020, 05:14 PM
    South Korea has relatively loose regulations against corona and still managed to slow the spread due to mutual mask wearing and disinfection. He mentions: - voluntarism - capitalism - universal mask wearing - sensible hygiene - cloroquine and aids medications - 15 year time frame for a vaccine
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    03-28-2020, 11:46 AM
    I know this is a controversial topic. I have had family members in situations as described here. Please keep the discussion civilized. Thank you. The bottleneck in the current intensive care treatment of corona patients is ventilators. Even more extreme measures like pulmonary bypasses, i.e. the oxygenation of the patients’ blood outside of the body and the shutdown of the lungs, are rarely discussed, but seem to be in use on occasion. This text will focus on ventilator use as a legal barrier for the consensual termination of treatments. The chance of survival for a ventilator patient with covid-19 is around 40%. Even if the patient survives, chronic lung damage is likely. Treatments usually last for more than a week and intensive care occupancy stretches out much longer than for other ventilator conditions. The risk group for such severe outcomes is clearly defined. Corona epidemic deaths have almost exclusively been limited to people with serious pre-existing conditions (hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular, respiratory) and very high age. The first 2500 deaths in Italy had 99.2 % pre-existing conditions and a median age of 80.5 years. None under 30 died at all. The extreme measures that governments are taking to slow the spread and therefore ultimately ventilator demand are also meant to buy time to acquire more ventilators. Unfortunately, though, some members of risk groups are not participating in the social distancing and hygiene measures with the necessary diligence. Some are disregarding them altogether. It seems that some are consciously taking a chance at getting seriously ill. They have lived their lives and they know that they will die of something and they are accepting that corona might be the cause. That is their good right. However, if they are gambling with death, they might also be willing to preemptively forego their option to be hooked up to a ventilator. This is perfectly legal in most countries via an advance health care directive. After such an opt-out, their treatments would be limited to palliative care, thereby reducing the demand for ventilators. Advance health care directives are also reducing the responsibility and frequency of physicians to make life or death decisions. Some countries have legalized assisted suicide and such options are also the patients good right, provided they are consciously taking the decision to die.
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    03-25-2020, 04:53 PM
    This should benefit miners somewhat. But they are facing shutdowns from corona measures and the closed refineries are not processing their ores (I dont know when they get paid, before or after refining). But the super low oil prices should help them.
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