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    05-24-2024, 11:55 PM
    The Pine Tree riot, its interesting as this isn't one of the events traditionally recognized as one of the events leading up to the revolutionary war, and yet it seems like it would qualify for that designation https://nhpbs.org/wild/karnerwhitepineriot.asp
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    05-24-2024, 10:01 PM
    I would also casually point out, that in the prior scenario, James still has $70 in his pocket at the end. He could use that to buy an entirely new chair from China, if he wanted to. :D (a lounge chair perhaps, just not a lawn chair, cus that's under tariff ^.^
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    05-24-2024, 08:44 PM
    The modern day Ministry of Truth, at it again
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    05-24-2024, 05:24 PM
    If the question becomes, would we rather have $60 worth in time and materials, or $60 worth in waning FRN's, consider this: Implicit in the assumptions in the scenario, is that there exists someone in America who is ready and willing to work for $20. (If there wasn't, the labor would had to have been valued at a higher price so someone would work on it) If you ask that guy, the American who is willing and able to work for $20/hour, he would say yes, absolutely, he wants the job. As far as materials go, materials are only useful if they are, uh, used. Their entire purpose is to be used (and not conserved). It is objectively better, for America, to build the chair and give its citizens the opportunity (that they are ready and willing to do) to earn a livelihood, than to spend the same equivalent resources to buy the same thing from China.
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    05-24-2024, 01:51 PM
    edit: I didn't read the full post. Still interested in what constitution-violating "emergency powers" actually mean, in which case: This should be 0
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    05-24-2024, 01:09 PM
    Prior to an exchange with Li Zhao: (A) 1) James has $40 of materials 2) James has an hour of time (valued at $20) 3) You have $70 4) You don't have a chair 5) James has $0 After an exchange with Li Zhao: (B) 1) James has $40 of materials 2) James has an hour of time (valued at $20)
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    05-24-2024, 11:05 AM
    No, my understanding of economics is just fine. You're just not considering my perspective. From the perspective of America, that wealth is already accounted for in the chair itself. If I personally build a chair, for my own use, do I gain a chair and $10 dollars? No, of course not. The wealth I gained with my labor was the chair itself, which I'm gonna use to sit on personally. Same thing with America, when considered as a group. If America builds a chair, for its own use, it gains a chair. If I pay James Dean $10 dollars or $10,000 it doesnt matter to America, what matters to America is that it gained a chair and lost X amount of human hours to build/assemble a chair. If America used foreign trade for the materials, it also lost $40 in addition to whatever human labor was used to assemble the chair. But nowhere in that equation, is that $10 important. The wealth and cost is already accounted for.
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    05-24-2024, 03:28 AM
    That's some massive trolling right there :up:
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    05-23-2024, 09:31 PM
    Why wouldn't he branch out into manufacturing lawn chairs? Lawn chairs are a gold mine of opportunity. The how is quite obvious... he'd just use a time dilating necromantic generator which is gonna be built in approximately 24 years from now after robots have conquered the world. But the more pertinent question is, will we still need lawn chairs at that point? (And the answer is yes, even robots will want lawn chairs)
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    05-23-2024, 05:18 PM
    Your example has glaring problems. Below is one of them: This is blatantly wrong on its face, because $10 can't just be created out of nowhere. From America's perspective, exactly $0 money has moved -- or $40 if the materials were bought through foreign trade. The below is still missing a very important factor that you keep ignoring. (Or doing mental gymnastics so that you don't have to address it)
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    05-23-2024, 03:00 PM
    It's really not that complicated though. Organizations of large enough size often face a "build vs buy" decision. Is it cheaper to build it, or buy it? In the examples provided, it would cost America $40 + $20 (in labor) to build the lawn chair, and it would cost $60 to buy it. So the question really is, do you want the industry or not? And do you want to keep the $40 within the American economy, or not?
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    05-23-2024, 02:43 PM
    There's two separate components in your argument, "materials", and "time". For "materials", you have built into the assumption that James has $40 of materials lying around. I could address your points by basically re-posting all of my scenarios with that assumption built into it and show that it doesn't affect the outcome. But it's a lot easier to address your point on this by assuming that James does not have materials laying around. Can we just agree to assume that James does not have materials laying around, and that he purchases the materials immediately prior to assembly of the product? If that's not satisfactory for whatever reason I'd be happy to provide the scenarios with your assumption included into the scenarios... but ugh... it's tedious. As for "time", you are somewhat right. One "benefit" of purchasing from China is that you are saving your labor so it can be used on something else. I say "benefit" because it depends on whether or not you want a job. If the goal is higher industry, then it's not really a benefit. You can say the labor will still be used, but "on something else". That "on something else" however is an abstract concept whereas the labor for the lawn chair is a very concrete opportunity. Considering that the labor is valued at $20/hour and you'll get paid that in either scenario, a concrete opportunity is better than an abstract one down the line. If however you choose to indeed save your time for "something else", you're still losing $60. Is it worth saving $20 worth of of time, just to lose $60 anyway? If the item was made in America, you're "losing" $20 worth of time but you keep your $60. (again, "losing" is in quotes as it may be a good thing if you want the increased industry)
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    05-22-2024, 07:35 PM
    I didn't "forget" the materials. Materials don't just generate out of thin air. They are produced or purchased and that requires effort or spending. That effort and spending (or lack thereof) is accounted for in my examples. If you want to build into the assumptions that James has $40 of free materials lying around it doesn't change the math. Ok. So you saved $10 that will be spent on something else (for your benefit we can assume its spent in America and not again on foreign trade). As a group, the nation still exported $60 dollars to a foreign economy that you're not accounting for.
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    05-22-2024, 06:40 PM
    Fair point. I didn't take that into consideration
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    05-22-2024, 06:34 PM
    Fair enough :up:
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    05-22-2024, 06:04 PM
    This is flawed logic and I can demonstrate so. Imagine that: James Dean has a lawn chair factory and he sells lawn chairs at $40 material cost, $20 labor, $10 dollars profit for $70 each Li Zhao has a lawn chair factory and he sells lawn chairs at $40 material cost, $10 labor, $10 dollars profit for $60 each If I buy a lawn chair from Li Zhao the net result is: 1) Me and James (collectively) gain 1 lawn chair and we lose $60 2) Li Zhao gains $10 3) $50 goes to third parties for material and labor -- in China
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    05-20-2024, 01:36 PM
    And people sometimes wonder why I have no hope for mankind.
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    05-19-2024, 10:25 AM
    Well, it's not homophobia, cus that would be exclusionary of the many other letters in the LGBTBBQ acronym. qu***ophobia? Same issue. LGBTQIAA2Sophobia? Doesn't quite roll off the tongue. The only thing that seems to quite match is weirdophobia
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    05-19-2024, 12:55 AM
    Everything has practical limits; otherwise such a thing would be impractical. That's ok. You still are in my book :)
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    05-18-2024, 11:51 PM
    I would choose whichever was best for me at the time. If option 2 had a wonderful economy and a culture that I liked, I would probably choose that over a "less authoritarian" option that had an economy/culture I didn't like. That's what freedom really means, is to be able to choose your own path -- even if it is "authoritarian". I would never dare to question "true anarchy" :cool:
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    05-18-2024, 11:21 PM
    The more important point was the statement immediately prior to the section you bolded; specifically, that he supports the ideals necessary for anarchism to exist.
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    05-18-2024, 11:16 PM
    Having the ability to secede is both necessary and sufficient to being sovereign. Thus, anyone who supports the right to secede, also supports the ideals necessary for anarchism to exist. That to me, is sufficient criteria to label someone as an "anarchist", regardless of whatever other labels they may choose to identify as.
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    05-18-2024, 11:07 PM
    That would be racist. Or qu**rist. Or whatever the ist is for LGTBQ hate.
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    05-18-2024, 10:45 PM
    As far as sovereignty is concerned (being "without ruler"), it's the only thing that matters. If you cannot secede, then you are not sovereign, and you are not "without ruler". So if you want to live in a world where people can choose to live without rulers, secession is absolutely core to that ideal.
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    05-18-2024, 08:35 PM
    TheTexan replied to a thread MTG vs. AOC in U.S. Political News
    +rep He's got you there AF :cool: Perhaps more importantly, he's also signalling his consent. Voter turnout is a standard metric used to determine the "legitimacy" of various regimes.
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    05-18-2024, 08:31 PM
    He supports (in my subjective opinion) secession. In my book, that's all that is required to be an anarchist. Don't like his authoritarian positions? He's not requiring you to participate in them.
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    05-18-2024, 05:06 PM
    Without sarcasm, I've considered SS to be an anarchist for years now.
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