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For the record, this was an aside. However, you're gonna have to do better than an Obama WH website citation to prove to me that a president cannot de facto declassify records a la carte, which frankly makes sense in your convoluted statist paradigm. Why couldn't/shouldn't a president have final authority to de/classify state secrets? One could conceive of myriad situations in which it makes sense for a head of state to declassify state secrets...

And digital is FAR easier to capture remotely. You're not making a case.

And yet we again return to the unanswered question as to what differentiates HRC's crimes from DJT's. Thank you for citing chapter and verse, reverend. You still haven't answered the actual question, however.

You are at your comedic best this evening.

It would be an easier argument to make if the U.S. government hadn't funded the research. Of course, we could save a few for them...

The Future w/ Michael Malice - Part Of The Problem 894 On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave and Michael discuss their concerns for the future, from the dramatic raid on Donald Trump's home, to the impact it will have on the upcoming election. We also hear about the Media backlash to the trumpianisim that is surging in American politics. This Episode Was Recorded On 8.15.22 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shrLq3GwljI

The Future w/ Michael Malice - Part Of The Problem 894 On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave and Michael discuss their concerns for the future, from the dramatic raid on Donald Trump's home, to the impact it will have on the upcoming election. We also hear about the Media backlash to the trumpianisim that is surging in American politics. This Episode Was Recorded On 8.15.22 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shrLq3GwljI

Yup, no doubt about it. What do we spend all those trillions on "defense" for, if not that? A foreign government, in collusion with traitors within our own government, developed a gain of function bio-weapon, in violation of agreed research protocols, funding restrictions and international agreements. They then released that bioweapon on an unsuspecting world, lied about it's source, scope and origins, and killed, imprisoned or "disappeared" whistle-blowers on the inside that tried to expose this information. This weaponized virus went on to kill tens of millions worldwide and millions of of our fellow United States citizens, who have a constitutional right to be protected from foreign attacks and invasion. If that is not justification to release every weapon in our arsenal at the goddamned Chinese communists and these spawn of Satan himself weapons facilities, nothing is.

Good grief, three pages of arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. This is a politically motivated "hit". If there is nothing at all to prosecute in this, then they will move on to something else. Sooner or later, they'll find something and achieve their goal: keeping Trump legally off the ballot in 2024. Throwing him in jail for some manufactured crime is a whole lot easier than rigging yet another presidential election.

What prize do you suggest? Shall I give her her gender back?

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Seems to me he is trying to point out that what we see happening all around us has been planned for a very long time and by organizations outside of our government. Our government has sold us out, yes, but they weren't the people devising it. https://thenewamerican.com/bill-gates-davos-elites-pushing-global-food-control-under-guise-of-food-security/ 'In 1904, the Carnegie Institution for Science created the Eugenics Record Office to promote the idea of “race betterment” through “scientific” population control, including forced sterilization and denial of healthcare to those deemed to have undesirable physical and mental traits. In the 1920s, feminist-eugenicist-racist Margaret Sanger launched her American Birth Control League (which would later become Planned Parenthood) with generous financial help from John D. Rockefeller, Jr. and other members of the Rockefeller family. By the 1960s, the fervor for population control had reached a tipping point. The publication of The Population Bomb by Stanford University’s Professor Paul Ehrlich in 1968 gave the movement a huge media-assisted boost. Deemed required reading in many high school and college classes, it sold tens of millions of copies. Ehrlich predicted that tens of millions of Americans would die of starvation in the 1980s, and by 1999 the U.S. population would be reduced to 22.2 million. England, he said would fare even worse, and would cease to exist by 2000! “Our position requires that we take immediate action at home and promote effective action worldwide,” Ehrlich insisted. “We must have population control at home, hopefully through a system of incentives and penalties, but by compulsion if voluntary methods fail…. We can no longer afford merely to treat the symptoms of the cancer of population growth; the cancer itself must be cut out.” (Emphasis added.) “We might institute a system,” Ehrlich suggested, “whereby a temporary sterilant would be added to a staple food or to the water supply. An antidote would have to be taken to permit reproduction.”

Well, at least he was a brilliant Alpha useful idiot.

https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1559631370607017985

You talked about the conspiracy, I talked about the conspiracy, you posted a screed about the jab itself. The jab was just an ingredient of the conspiracy. Yes, it could be developed privately. I still maintain it would never have gotten into as many arms as it did without government. Whine all you want about how uncooperative I become when you want me to digress with you and get lost in minutiae.

I disagree. I'm inclined to give Trump himself much more of the "credit" for his being such a disappointment. As for Biden, I'm not entirely confident he is even always aware that he is the President.

You're saying the quiet part out loud - this was clearly, unequivocally, a fishing expedition. ANY DOCUMENT between the beginning and end of his presidency?? That's as vague of a warrant as you can get, particularly for a former president and prospective challenger to the current regime. Can you not just be honest about this?

And not only was it known to DOJ/FBI, but they advised him as to how to keep said documents secured.

I'd like to see the CFR reference which codifies this requirement.

"Simple" is damned right. Digital is FAR worse that hard copies. How can you even make that argument? I expected better.

A president - ANY president - can declassify any document at any time, without permission from anyone, QED. Do you think that a president needs permission to declassify a document? From whom? And upon what basis should he receive such "permission"? He may request advice, but ultimately, the decision to declassify documents is his, and his alone. This is false - Trump was advised in the spring that the documents in which he was of possession should be secured, and certain elements of the DOJ/FBI advised him as to how he should secure said documents. It is not in the least bit circumspect that an outgoing executive should carry with him some/many documents relevant to his administration, and that the possession of which would be coordinated with the relevant executive bureaucracies, which very much seems to be the circumstances in this case. Well, I'm sorry. But you know what they say about "assume"...

Uh, you know, that isn't exactly what that word means...

Irrelevant? It was the keystone of your whole arch, and it was made of styrofoam. That's not my fault. You put all that energy into digressing. I couldn't tell how your response related to the post you quoted at all.