• phill4paul's Avatar
    Today, 02:40 PM
    Congratulations, you caught me misreading a word while replying to nothing but drivel in rapid succession.
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    Today, 02:38 PM
    Me too. Along with an abatement of regulations.
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    Today, 02:35 PM
    "Even if I didn't like the condition, well, your giving it to one why not the other, why don't you give it to everybody else. I never voted to raise taxes. If you don't support the abatement or credit then you are voting to raise taxes." Glad I could help out someone listening/reading impaired.
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    Today, 02:32 PM
    :rolleyes:
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  • phill4paul's Avatar
    Today, 02:31 PM
    I'm glad libertarians agree that this was a good deal then. I don't know what these other individuals consider themselves if this is true though.
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  • phill4paul's Avatar
    Today, 02:29 PM
    And in the real world there are not $70k a year jobs just waiting around the corner, immediately available, after being cut. Get out of your books and videos and go see what is going on in this country.
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  • phill4paul's Avatar
    Today, 02:27 PM
    And what is the sentence immediately following that, brainiac?
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    Today, 02:22 PM
    Again, because you really suck at comprehension. Facts + math overcome your belief that my entire premise is a "maybe." Here's the breakdown. Carrier leaves. 1000 individuals lose their jobs and go on assistance at $390 a week for 26 weeks (Indiana Unemplyment). That comes to roughly $10 million in unemployment wages. $10 million NET LOSS. Add in no income tax coming in from these individuals. So your looking at a $12 million loss. Indiana offered $1 million in tax credits, another $5 million in conditional tax credits to retain 1,062 jobs that pay $30.91 per hour. And another $1 million for training grants. A total of $7 million. Instead of a $12 million drain, and also realize that the economy ripples and that these workers wages are not supporting other businesses in their area. In Indiana there is a 3.3% income tax. 3.3% of 1000 workers @ $70k per year comes to a tax gain of $2.3 million per year.This doesn't even include the 7% sales tax that would generate at least another $5 million per year. That is a $7 million dollar NET GAIN, offset by tax breaks, equals a wash. Except that there is not a NET LOSS. There remains 1000 workers that spend $70k in their community supporting other small businesses. On top of that Carrier will invest $16 million into improvements that will, in some way, include local small business companies. And $1 million goes to training workers in todays competitive business environment.
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  • phill4paul's Avatar
    Today, 02:20 PM
    You suck at listening/reading. "Even if I didn't like the condition, well, your giving it to one why not the other, why don't you give it to everybody else." Are you really that thick headed? It was only a couple of sentences to decipher and you failed miserably.
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  • phill4paul's Avatar
    Today, 02:18 PM
    I did. Read my response again.
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    Today, 02:17 PM
    Please list the businesses in Indiana that have threatened to leave because of this. I await your lengthy list.
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    Today, 02:15 PM
    Please tell me what he says at 11:35.
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  • phill4paul's Avatar
    Today, 02:12 PM
    I did. And it was just yet another strawman regarding this State of Indiana issue.
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  • phill4paul's Avatar
    Today, 02:11 PM
    Again with the mights and maybes. You are really bad about arguing your points.
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  • phill4paul's Avatar
    Today, 02:09 PM
    Yes, and if you had paid any attention then you no that I do not support Trump. Ask any of the Trump supporters here. Go ahead. This isn't about Trump and your strawman are no better in this post then any of your others.
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    Today, 02:06 PM
    11:35. "My policy over the years is to support anything that looks like a tax abatement or a tax credit. Even if I didn't like the condition, well, your giving it to one why not the other, why don't you give it to everybody else. I never voted to raise taxes. If you don't support the abatement or credit then you are voting to raise taxes."
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  • phill4paul's Avatar
    Today, 02:00 PM
    You run on the assumption of a lot of "mights" and "maybes." I don't. I've provided facts. You've provided....conjecture. Thanks for playing.
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  • phill4paul's Avatar
    Today, 01:58 PM
    Tell me what he says at the 11:35 mark.
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  • phill4paul's Avatar
    Today, 01:55 PM
    And your still making talking points I corrected you on through many posts. Because you cannot make your point unless you regurgitate that which has been refuted. Let me try this again for you. INDIANA. You required of me to answer a question. Now you answer tod evans, howabout?
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  • phill4paul's Avatar
    Today, 01:47 PM
    Or MIGHT they have just created a new environment where the STATE government realizes that giving incentives is a pretty damn good deal? Might, might, might, might, might, might, might, might, might, might, might, might. In the meantime, in the here and now real world, 1100 jobs were saved and the welfare system didn't become a bigger burden.
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  • heavenlyboy34's Avatar
    Today, 01:46 PM
    That's not a "failure" (preventing the Fedcoats from stealing from people is a success), but you are otherwise correct.
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  • tod evans's Avatar
    Today, 01:45 PM
    These all read like variations of the same theme; Where ya'll want to tell the people of Indiana that they can't offer incentives to businesses because it's not fair to the other states who won't or can't offer the same incentives... Leading back to my earlier query;
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    Today, 01:38 PM
    My nephew's girlfriend has Crohn's and she says weed is the only thing that helps her.
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  • tod evans's Avatar
    Today, 01:35 PM
    "Our rights"? Really........I'll assume you live and pay taxes in Indiana and can point to how this somehow negatively affects you physically, spiritually or financially..... Go ahead and spell it out I'm pretty dense so specific claims will help me understand.. First off I didn't raise the 'point' you try to disregard so cavalierly I merely asked the other poster to clarify his position.
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  • tod evans's Avatar
    Today, 01:25 PM
    My query remains unanswered, are you able to answer it? By what the market will bear. (And this is the only deviation from discussing the state of Indiana and her actions regarding Carrier manufacturing that I'll answer in this thread)
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    I use it because I hate the taste of toothpaste. I've never liked it. I used to just use baking soda but as I got older and learned about coconut oil, I started mixing baking soda, kosher salt, and coconut oil together to make my own toofpaste. I also tried a whitener once and it burned my gums and made my teeth sensitive. My dentist gave some professional strips to try because the Franzia was staining my teeth. They weren't gnarly, they just didn't look dazzling.:D Anyway, I tried one and gave the rest away - those damn strips were 10.00 each. My dentist gifted them to me but I saw on my receipt the retail price for a 4 pack was 40.00.:eek: I ended up learning about activated charcoal for tooth whitening and it works. I'm not sure how well it would work on badly stained teeth but it makes mine look like they've been professionally whitened. I bought the activated charcoal caplets off amazon for around 5.00. I opened them all up (very messy), put the powder back in the bottle and I use it once a week. I just dip a toothbrush in the powder (warning, use a dollar tree toothbrush because the charcoal will turn it black) get it all over my teeth, jump in the shower and when I get out, I rinse out my mouth with a waterpik and brush my teeth good. WARNING - I've heard it can stain dental work. I only have a few small fillings on some molars and haven't noticed any staining but I've read online that some people have turned their crowns black.:eek: My routine. Brush twice a day Waterpik at night Activated charcoal once a week or whenever I feel like I need it. It doesn't hurt your teeth so you can do it as much as you want. Since I got on that routine, my dental cleanings only take about 15 minutes. :cool:
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