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    Today, 04:59 PM
    You have studiously avoided reading in-depth about this topic. Soros forgave at least $83M of the loan and maybe as much as $130M. Soros has had a substantial influence on whatever financial health trump may have.
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    Today, 04:38 PM
    Yes, but don't get tDS about it. trump said we should go after their families, to delivery homemade peanut butter cookies, cut their grass, and invite them over for dinner. It was the moment when we knew, absolutely without a thread of doubt, that trump was a non-interventionist.
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    Today, 04:30 PM
    Sorry, I know this is a thread derail, but everybody should watch this once or twice a year just as a kind of mental chiropractic adjustment.
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    Today, 03:48 PM
    Ah, the $160,000,000 question. If I'm not mistaken, that's more than trump gave to McCain and Clinton combined.
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    Today, 02:12 PM
    Same. The whole ME shenanigans seem to be based on taking Iran out.
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    Today, 02:11 PM
    You don’t know much, and that’s a fact. – The Duchess, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland Chapter 6
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    Today, 02:05 PM
    catch-22 noun a dilemma or difficult circumstance from which there is no escape because of mutually conflicting or dependent conditions. "a catch-22 situation" synonyms: dilemma, quandary, vicious circle
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    Today, 11:57 AM
    No strong opinion on the White Helmets. I guess it's kind of like trump, who was also funded by Soros. They lie a lot, but let's applaud them when they do good things. My recollection is that the White Helmet discussion in that thread was derailment from the topic at hand. Roger Waters, in the meantime, has made a buhjillionaire career out of being confused - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1017610/What-flying-pigs-Obama-Roger-Waterss-inflatable-porker-heads-heavens.html Coincidentally, I just listened to Piper at the Gates of Dawn yesterday.
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    Today, 11:49 AM
    Show me where I argued that the white helmets were good guys. Not even going into 2nd hand info on this kinda stuff.
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    Today, 11:36 AM
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521461-Tim-Kaine-wants-trump-to-have-more-war-powers
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    Today, 11:03 AM
    This whole incident is a Catch-22.
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    Today, 10:59 AM
    Ya think? And I'd +rep you if I could.
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    Today, 10:57 AM
    That's exactly my point.
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    Today, 10:54 AM
    I don't remember seeing your post but I agree that the WH are "fake". And please don't insult Dorothy or Oz. ;)
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    Today, 10:47 AM
    The answer is get the gov out of EVERYTHING. This will take quite a bit of education on real freedom for indoctrinated minds. They do not understand that: -Huge medical bills are because gov is involved; government supports the Insurance/Drug cartels, which raises medical bills into the next universe. -Charity should be local, not national. This helps people raise themselves out of the mire. -Throw out all the insane regulations and get the gov out of business.
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    Yesterday, 01:40 PM
    And I thought trump was the anti-Hillary: More at link - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/opinion/repeal-replace-trump-war-powers.html
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    Yesterday, 07:31 AM
    So much freedom- we can put you in jail for victimless crimes but you have no voice in it. This is the same logic that will support an 18 year old joining the military but won't allow them to drink. If people are going to be punished as adults then they should also have voting rights. And- if the gov was out of the school system maybe we could stop the ridiculous stuff that keeps teens babies and then demands they "grow up" immediately at 18. And, NO, I'm not in favor of 16 yr old know-nothings voting, but saying the two things aren't connected is not looking at the real picture.
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    04-17-2018, 01:43 PM
    This is all I need to know on this issue -
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    04-17-2018, 12:42 PM
    http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/383512-supreme-court-invalidates-law-requiring-the-deportation-of
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    04-17-2018, 11:59 AM
    Excuse me, percentage. Corrected.
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    04-17-2018, 11:25 AM
    Allow an opening to at least make a slight alteration to that brain-worm. I hate the Pew study tit-for-tat. But since people seem to trust Pew more than Rand and Ron, I'll copy and paste from an old post - In that study, Pew pretty much asked "Do you want free stuff?" Who wouldn't say yes? Especially if they're in poverty? I know - 3 libertarians and 2 paleo-cons. When they asked "Do you want free stuff if you have to pay for it with taxes?" the percentages dropped precipitously. In fact, the Hispanic numbers interestingly dropped more precipitously than when whites were asked. In other words (if you buy stupid poll data), the whites didn't mind paying more taxes. Pew also found that Hispanics have been shown to believe in the efficacy of hard work in much higher percentages than the general populace. Hispanics self-identify as libertarian pretty much identically with whites (11% & 12% respectively.)
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    04-17-2018, 10:51 AM
    Not exactly AF- men were actually the first to wear many things that are now considered "feminine"- such as: Makeup Wigs High Heels Fancy jewelry & especially pierced ears. These only became "feminine" when men got tired of them & moved into different fashions. Then the women took over. ;) (Of course, pierced ears were always masculine as it was a sign that a sailor had actually crossed the equator.)
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    04-17-2018, 10:10 AM
    I don't recommend it, unless you enjoy stomach ulcers. Just helpful, free advice for those who do care.
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    04-17-2018, 09:42 AM
    And I don't. FYF You're still going to have to demonstrate demonstrably how this is different from White Republicans™ and those they elect. How, considering the events of the past year, do you still have faith that giving all the branches of federal, state and local government to copsucker White Republicans™ will result in less war, less government spending, etc.? If you're still concerned about voting, then accept the demonstrable conclusion (supported in the Luntz-y Pew data FWIW) that first generation naturalized immigrants will vote for whomever they think is for them. That's to say nothing of blacks and women. Those following the Rand/Ron Paul template of acceptance, outreach and just plain ole' love for fellow man have a chance. Levin-bots will win Iowa, but they will dig the hole ever deeper for the Republican party's future.
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    04-17-2018, 08:28 AM
    I'm not supporting Turkey or Erdoğan but the Gatestone Institute is basically a Muslim-hate site. Most everything we read about the history of the Ottoman Empire is very imbalanced and not close to truth. At one time the Ottoman Empire was the greatest and most civilized on earth- think of America in it's prime. The Emperor Suleyman was considered one of the greatest leaders in history; he was also extremely cultured & artistic. The Ottomans never went through the "Dark Ages". That was a European experience. Also: jihad means a personal inner conflict to better oneself- the arabic word for war is: "al-harb". Jihad is NOT war against other religions. The Koran specifically refers to Jews and Christians as "people of the book" who should be protected and respected. Did the Ottoman's degenerate? Of course- think of the US's path in today's world.
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    04-16-2018, 11:33 PM
    Here's Helmuth again, sputtering utter bullshit. First of all most people can't even recognize a Pit. Many "attacks" that have been blamed on Pits were a totally different breed. I had a Shar-pei/Lab mix doggie that everyone thought was a Pit. Pits were trained a few centuries ago for fighting but so were a lot of other breeds- Pits just get a bad rap nowadays because people are ignorant. http://love-a-bull.org/resources/the-history-of-pit-bulls/
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    04-16-2018, 02:25 PM
    https://www.pitt.edu/~hirtle/uujec/white.html
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    04-16-2018, 02:04 PM
    Making America Greece again.
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    04-16-2018, 02:02 PM
    Isn't it hilarious that Republicans want to build a wall to keep them in?
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    04-16-2018, 01:01 PM
    You're the one rewriting history. The Irish were hated because a) they were Catholic, and b) because they were not considered white. In his book The Renegade History of the United States, Thaddeus Russell explains that the first large wave of Irish immigrants worked low-paying jobs—mostly building the canals along the Canadian border—that other Americans wouldn’t do. Like finding out a song you thought was new is actually a 100-year-old remake, the Irish were simultaneously accused of stealing all the good jobs and branded as “lazy” and “shiftless.” They were also thought to be the nonwhite “missing link” between the superior European and the savage African based on stereotypes from the early American media, according to the Boston Globe: In the popular press, the Irish were depicted as subhuman. They were carriers of disease. They were drawn as lazy, clannish, unclean, drunken brawlers who wallowed in crime and bred like rats. Most disturbingly, the Irish were Roman Catholics coming to an overwhelmingly Protestant nation and their devotion to the pope made their allegiance to the United States suspect. In 1798, Congress passed three “Alien Acts” based mainly on fears of Irish-Catholic, anti-immigrant sentiment. These new laws gave the president the power to stop immigration from any country at war with the U.S. and the right to deport any immigrant, and made it harder for immigrants to vote. Then, again in the late 1840s, a nationalist political group called the Know-Nothings sprang from a populist movement of poor whites who were dissatisfied with the two-party system and started the American Party, intent on preserving America’s culture by restricting immigration, especially from Catholic countries—including by Irish Catholics.
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