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    Yesterday, 03:21 PM
    Then does that make you a Cruz supporter as well? "I strongly support auditing the Fed. Indeed, I was an original co-sponsor of Ron Paul’s Audit the Fed bill. Unfortunately, it was clear early on that yesterday’s vote wasn’t going to succeed (it fell 7 votes short). And, at the same time that the vote was scheduled, I had longstanding commitments to be in New Hampshire — for a Second Amendment rally, and a 1500- person State of the Union town hall. If my vote would have made a difference in it passing, I would have cancelled my campaign events to be there. Because the vote was not going to succeed, I honored my commitments to be with the men and women of New Hampshire. As President, I look forward to signing Audit the Fed legislation into law." - Ted Cruz
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    Yesterday, 01:38 PM
    A perfect description of LRC, which allows no online comments and has carefully avoided allowing providing links to Dr. Paul's spirited and thorough critiques of trump's policies.
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    Yesterday, 12:33 PM
    It's already been discussed ad nauseam. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?493562-Block-v-Wenzel-debate-if-libertarians-should-support-Trump http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?492248-Libertarians-are-Jumping-Ship-This-Election-Cycle http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?492038-quot-Libertarians-for-Trump-quot
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    Yesterday, 12:29 PM
    Flagged.
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    Yesterday, 12:27 PM
    Why call supporters of Dr. Paul's policy prescriptions, and by extension Dr. Paul himself, SJW's? I mean, why? I wasn't addressing you, but your postings make you seem to be a trump apologist. Am I mistaken? trump was, is and will continue to be a progressive Democrat. He has given a heck of a lot of money and buddied up to the cream of neocons and progressive SJW's. This thread has veered into critiquing the rhetorical savvy of Ron Paul, who communicated liberty to a larger group of people more effectively than anyone in hundreds of years. He was the opposite of trump in every way that counts and he continues to challenge the claims of credulous trump apologists. The very advocacy of trump on a site called Ron Paul Forums is an insult to Ron Paul.
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    Yesterday, 09:09 AM
    Here go the trumpies, putting down the Pauls. Dr. Paul cured my apathy just fine, thank you.
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    Yesterday, 09:08 AM
    We understand. You like his personality enough to forgive him his horrifically anti-liberty positions. Meanwhile the media is loving it. He's a great ratings driver.
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    04-30-2016, 03:29 PM
    Well, as noted elsewhere, if net worth were a litmus test, George Soros should be president.
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    04-30-2016, 02:40 PM
    http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2016/04/29/there-is-a-100-percent-chance-mark-cuban-becomes-president/ I don't actually know a ton about Cuban but I gather he has somewhat libertarian leanings. Could he be the next spearhead? Has he said any reprehensible things that make liberty lovers cringe?
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    04-30-2016, 09:44 AM
    I think the context is retained 100%. Was Bush a better option than Kerry or Gore? In some ways, yes. Was Obama a better option than McCain or Romney? In some ways, yes. Is trump a better candidate than Clinton? In some ways, yes. Do all of them educate us strategically how we can win a nomination in the future? Absolutely - take over the media. There, that was simple.
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    04-28-2016, 12:43 PM
    Soros is wildly more self-made than trump. Actually, a charity apparently gave him 40 pounds once as a kid. Again, by your logic Soros is more fiscally conservative.
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    04-28-2016, 11:31 AM
    Soros has 24.4 billion. He must be more fiscally conservative.
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    04-25-2016, 01:27 PM
    Ugh. I know government has done reprehensibly evil things that have resulted in deaths of piles of innocent people and robbery of their livelihoods and destruction of their liberties. But for me, Tipper Gore's PMRC shenanigans were the most completely clueless thing ever to march through the halls of congress. Frank Zappa's activities to combat it are something for which we should forever be thankful. "I resent encroachments on the first amendment because I'm a constitutional fundamentalist." - Frank Zappa Greatest episode of CNN's Crossfire ever. You'll be reminded a lot of McAfee watching him -
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    04-25-2016, 10:10 AM
    In your discussion about a Foundational Knowledgebase, you mentioned building it on a wiki platform. I got the impression that would displace or at least lessen the prominence of the web forum side of things. Am I reading that right? Wikis are useful for me, but I've never been able to see them as communities. I'll dip into a wiki on, say, Frank Zappa's music to pick up information on a band member's involvement on a certain track, and then I'm gone. Maybe that's just me. I frequent other wiki/database sites that have full forums, but the forums are never very vibrant. When the Mises Institute shuffled off its forum (now the very sparse libertyhq.freeforums.org), it was to purify a knowledge platform so that it could proactively provide information with little opportunity for unedited feedback. Instead of a 50 or 100 people posting multiple times a day (as with rpf), mises.org has 15 or 20 people who provide a post once a week or once a month. That to me is stiffer and less resilient. I would also point out that "Liberty Forest" didn't become a very significant brand for anybody here that I know of. Nobody seems to refer to it as such. I presume everybody still thinks of it as Ron Paul Forums. And I think that's because the words "Ron" and "Paul" when joined together don't really encapsulate an individual human's identity any more as much as they are shorthand for a kind of compassionate conservatism where all the stupid fascist bits have been corrected by sensible libertarian and constitutionally derived solutions. Replacing "Liberty Forest" with "Guide Point" is neither here nor there. Replacing "Ron Paul Forums" with "Guide Point" presents a couple of problems - 1. It will seem like a little bit of a betrayal to some. 2. You will unnecessarily have to build public perception of a brand from the ground up, probably with no significant marketing capital, instead of just using the words "Ron Paul" to signify the same brand. It's very valuable to know there's a place I can go where people are trying their best to perpetuate the ideals that Ron Paul espoused in the 2008 & 2012 presidential elections and during his terms as congressman. I have only once seen one instance in which RPF has seemed to violate the spirit of Ron Paul's ideas, and that was when trumpmania was at its worst and seemed to be proceeding unabated. The situation was subsequently corrected. RPF is my newspaper, because I know if something happens in the world that champions or threatens my values, I can pop onto the forums and people are probably already actively commenting on it and sharing information. That said, if it can't earn its keep on that basis the owners have the right and legitimate motivation to change it how they see fit.
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    04-24-2016, 08:00 PM
    Am I the only guy on earth who still listens to podcasts? I'm terrified all the good ones are going to disappear one day. I respect Bryan's impulse, intuition and reasoning in nudging the site to the next step. But it's hard not to see the structure stiffening and becoming less resilient with the proposed changes. The vBulletin format is very fluid and reshapes itself according to momentary or metamorphosizing situations. The problem as identified is the site's ebb and flow of traffic (and thus its livelihood) with the public prominence of a strong, national pro-liberty candidate. With the absence of that, the members' interests and motivations have been shown to get a little skewed to say the least. It's not a given but not impossible that in the coming months McAfee might become a rallying point. To the extent he becomes linked with the Ron Paul ethos, it could liven up things around here again, but I can see the need to chart a more deliberate and less reactionary course. The words "guide point" mean nothing to me. In fact the word "guide" might even have the anti-liberty connotation of being guided rather than taking one's own course. And the word "point" could imply the exact opposite of the infinity of possibilities that are supposed to open up when one can live according to one's own initiative without hindrance from the forceful means of an arbitrary power. I know those aren't the intended meanings, but fwiw my knee-jerk impression.
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    04-23-2016, 05:35 PM
    I see Iggy Pop.
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    04-22-2016, 09:12 AM
    Wolf Blitzer on the passing of Prince: "We all remember Purple Haze."
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    04-20-2016, 01:12 PM
    Scuggly. But kind of what you'd expect. We will have a war president no matter what.
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    04-20-2016, 01:09 PM
    Well, as you might gather from my handle, I <3 Harriet. That said, I can think of better ways to honor her than branding fiat currency.
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    04-19-2016, 03:18 PM
    Whether you agree with Cruz or not, you've got to admit he's taking a wrecking ball to the establishment. I love seeing them squirm at his success.
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    04-18-2016, 05:28 PM
    Bump to keep it on top of the trump threads.
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    04-16-2016, 12:03 PM
    Thank you! Again, the argument that trump is anti-establishment isn't generally accepted. Anti-trump does not equal pro-establishment. Pro-trump does not equal anti-establishment. Pro-trump does not equal pro-liberty. Refuting the arguments of trump supporters does not equal purging, forceful asphyxiation or anything of the sort. Is Ron Paul lynching you in the following video, entitled "Donald Trump: The Establishment Candidate"? Ron Paul: "His simplified speech is this: 'I'm Donald Trump. I'll take care of you. I am the boss. I'll tell you what to do. Trust me.' There is never a mention of liberty."
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    04-15-2016, 09:58 PM
    Schlafly refused to endorse Ron Paul in 2008 and she endorsed ultra-warmonger Santorum in 2012 instead of Ron Paul. Be clear - Santorum is what Phyllis Schlafly supports. Her pro-life stance is honorable and good. I think it's wonderful she wants to keep babies from being killed. But I, like Dr. Paul, would rather not see grown-ups killed either. I have seen no evidence that Phyllis Schlafly ever supported Ron Paul or encouraged Eagle Forum to do so in any way. If you have access to past publications, I'm open to the idea she did, would welcome evidence and would love to hear anything pro-Paul she's said. But based on what I've seen of her, there's just no way. I'm sure many in Eagle Forum are of a libertarian bent, but not Schlafly herself. Yes, it's fun challenging his assertions. Since he claims not to read me, he gets no chance to rebutt. +repping that (as written) might put me at risk of being banned for being insulting.
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    04-13-2016, 03:56 PM
    BTW, according to trump trolls this site is full of Cruz supporters. The RPF Cruz brigade should be jumping on this thread any minute to defend their man. Waiting...
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    04-13-2016, 03:52 PM
    Reminds me of trump's campaign volunteer contract. I guess that makes him a Marxist -
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    04-13-2016, 03:46 PM
    Yep, Collins beat me by a minute.
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    04-13-2016, 03:37 PM
    LOL. What a free marketer - http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/04/ted-cruz-dildo-ban-sex-devices-texas
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    04-13-2016, 01:56 PM
    You said it. Schlafly has shown herself to be clearly unprincipled in supporting trump. We know what her principles are, and as WTLaw has pointed out, there's a real disconnect there.
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