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  • jkr's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:31 PM
    orange man bad
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    Yesterday, 03:09 PM
    i got admit it they put him up I will be vote for OMB
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    Yesterday, 09:53 AM
    oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please! oh please!
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-21-2020, 09:37 PM
    Where are all the Trump supporters to defend him on this issue? :confused:
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-20-2020, 06:22 PM
    He's not getting us out because if that was his intention, then he could've done it by now. I don't want to hear your excuses why he didn't, either, because at this point, you're nothing more than a Trump apologist. If Trump does get us out of Afghanistan, then that's a step in the right direction, but it's only a fraction of a start. I don't need new reasons to hate Trump because I don't hate Trump. There are plenty of reasons to show that he's not as conservative as people like you try to paint him out to be, from his approval to continue funding Planned Parenthood to his asinine appointments, such as John Bolton.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-20-2020, 06:08 PM
    If you believe the man who said the following truly has plans to get us our of Afghanistan, then I have a church to sell you in Saudi Arabia:
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-20-2020, 05:57 PM
    Trump is evil because he doesn't honor his oaths, which makes him a liar. When he makes decisions, he doesn't consult the Constitution, and furthermore, he doesn't listen to the wisdom from God's word (you know, that Book that Trump claims is his favorite book in the world). If a man can't keep his word, then he's not worthy of high praise and regard. Period. And Donald Trump has not upheld his oath of office to support and defend the U.S. Constitution, especially in matters of foreign affairs. So, I'll say again that Donald J. Trump is evil, and if you can't see that, then you've compromised on your ethics. No one is saying that Christians shouldn't work with Republicans and sinners, but there needs to be an objective standard by which any policy initiative is justified by a Biblical standard of limited government, protection of privacy and property, and especially, the preservation of life.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-20-2020, 05:44 PM
    He's not "draining the swamp" by hiring "Swamp Things." If anything, he's creating a precedent that his administration acknowledges the legitimacy of there being a "swamp." This is how I know that Trump isn't going to drain anything in Washington D.C.: right now, as Commander-in-Chief, he has the power to bring home all American troops overseas, which as a result, will get the U.S. out of all the foreign entanglements and unconstitutional wars that Trump claimed he was against. Yes, I understand that transitions would need to take place, for he couldn't do it all in one day; however, he definitely can plan it out within, say, a five-year period. If Trump were to plan such a feat, the "swamp" would be draining like a vortex, because that initiative would quickly get all of the neoconservatives (from both parties) in D.C. to rally against him. And if Trump is as big and bad as he thinks he is, and if he's serious about maintaining his foreign policy commitments that our wars have been mistakes, then the entire "swamp" coming against him shouldn't be something he can't handle, especially as a Commander-in-Chief. But, instead, he has us occupying the same foreign lands that we've always had, even extorting a nation who passed a resolution to have us leave their lands because of his actions to shed blood on their soil. So, no, Trump isn't going to do any "real deals" to get us out of positions where we get caught up in the civil affairs of other nations who are not under our Constitution, and therefore, have no direct relation to our country's national defense. He's playing people like you, dannno, because you're a pawn on his alleged "3D Chessboard."
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-20-2020, 05:28 PM
    Neither the account of Nebuchadnezzar ruling over Israel nor the Genesis 14 passage address the command or precept that God's chosen people ought to select evil (of any degree) as a resort to civil polity. To the contrary, God reveals in passages such as Exodus 18:21 that: And other passages, such Joshua 24:15, stating: Note that in neither of those passages, when it comes to a decision that deals with righteous delegations in the civic health of a nation, God nowhere leaves the option of settling for a "lesser evil." Why is that? Because a "lesser evil" is still evil. The fact that, due to the sinfulness of men and God's works of providence to work out His own sovereign decrees, wicked men have ruled over the righteous doesn't give the imperative that righteous people ought to vote for evil. If you believe that's the case, once again, show me where such an imperative is taught in Scripture, Swordsmyth. Indicatives aren't imperatives, either.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-20-2020, 05:16 PM
    I disagree with you about Dr. Paul not being perfect. He was a perfect statesman, in the sense that he understood, promoted, and sought to legislate in matters that consisted with private citizens keeping their lives, their liberties, and their properties without intrusions by the central government. He even maintained a perfect score with all of his votes being 100% in accordance with the U.S. Constitution. I really don't care if Dr. Paul gave Trump a "C-" grade, though I understand his reasons why. There's no way Trump is going to deal with the root causes of the problems in our foreign and domestic policies; all he's going to do is post Twitter messages, gloat about how he has "kept promises," and continue to surround himself with neoconservatives from "the swamp." Trump is not a Constitutionalist, and that's what we need, at the very least, to begin reforming all of these bad policies we have accumulated in D.C.
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  • jkr's Avatar
    02-20-2020, 11:53 AM
    ummmmm you AINT MARRIED "pete" you just hang out with some dude. SHOW ME YOUR CHILDREN! SHOW ME YOUR LEGACY!
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    02-19-2020, 06:35 PM
    THIS and they claim its "more efficient" reeeellly? where does your food TRUCK from? cities are an abomination-even if there is sum cool architecture.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-18-2020, 11:26 PM
    First of all, Donald Trump is nowhere near the same type of man as Samson. I'm not going to lay out my theological arguments as to why that's the case, here, because I want to get to a more important point. Last of all, your post didn't answer my question at all. I asked for Scriptural basis to support the idea that it's righteous (or moral) to vote for the lesser of two evils (or least of possible goods). You're a man of God, and I know you know the Scriptures, Swordsmyth. So please explain to me where in God's holy, inspired word He teaches that it's okay to have a voting ethic of choosing the lesser of two evils. I'm not looking for Biblical comparisons of Donald Trump to judges, prophets, nor apostles, which even to do so is insulting to those great men of the Faith, anyway.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-18-2020, 11:05 PM
    In light of the quote in your signature from Alexis de Tocqueville, "You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith," can you explain to me where in the Scriptures is the method of "voting for the lesser of two evils (or least of possible goods)" supported as a righteous thing to do? :confused:
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-18-2020, 07:28 PM
    Trump just granted clemency to one of the most crooked politicians in the history of Illinois, and you have the audacity to actually type with the same fingers that you fold in prayers to our God that Trump is a "possible good"? Can you not see how inconsistent you are, Swordsmyth? For all the death, theft, and debt that our country has been involved in, yes, I'll demand "perfection" instead of "lesser evils" or "least of possible good." There's too much at stake to be compromising our values and standards at this point. Just look at the type of people who continue to occupy the Oval Office, and observe what our chambers of Congress have become. Our children ought to be ashamed of us for the world we're leaving to them.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-18-2020, 07:11 PM
    The ballot box is not the only container we need to advance in the right direction. (By the way, you need to make sure you have the right definition of what is "the right direction" before you start moving, but that's another topic.). Besides voting, we also need the soap box, the prayer box, the coin box, and the ammo box. Those are the alternatives we have to work with when there are no candidates worthy of supporting. Yes, we need to make sacrifices, alliances, etc., and who says that libertarians haven't done that? But choosing not to "vote for the lesser of two evils" has nothing to do with being brainwashed by establishment elites and Socialists. On the contrary, it's those of you who continue to "vote for the lesser of two evils" that have fallen in step with the establishment elites and Socialists because they know they can promote whomever they want, and just as long as that candidate says a percentage of the things which tickle the ears of certain voting blocs, those elites/Socialists know they can remain in power, at the expense of your "ballot box tithe." That's what you call "voter suppression." So don't blame libertarians or "purists" for the political shifts every election cycle; that's on those of you who vote in fear and not in principle.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-18-2020, 06:57 PM
    Voting for "the lesser of two evils" is why our country never makes any progress. Generation after generation, people compromise on the axioms and principles which uphold a free republic, all for the sake of "doing something." The fact that you believe Trump is "moving things in the right direction" illustrates the delusion which is characteristic of those who continue to "vote for the lesser of two evils" instead of voting for what's objectively good. Under Trump, we still have slaughter of the unborn, inflation of our money supply, continue occupation of foreign lands, violations of the Constitution by the executive branch, incremental sieges of the right to own whatever we want to defend ourselves, and the list goes on. You're so busy looking at treatments of symptoms that you've completely ignored root causes, and because of that, people like you will never make any progress. So I'm not "holier than thou"; I'm just digging deeper than you are to undermine ideas that keep us in debt, in confusion and turmoil, and most of all, keep us with blood on our hands.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-18-2020, 06:34 PM
    Nobody is stopping you from pushing forward with "the message"; but don't confuse your message with being of the same essence as Dr. Ron Paul's because it's not. That's the problem. Those of you who support Trump are not in the same camp as those of us who have fought, taught, and advocated for the principles of a true, Constitutional republic that emphasizes things like the preservation of God-given rights, advancement of sound money and a true free-market system that doesn't have central banking at its core, a sensible and diplomatic foreign policy where we aren't policing the world and bribing foreign nations in order to steal their national resources, etc. So if you want to support the "Orange Man," then go ahead. But don't ever define your efforts as being the same as forwarding the causes which Dr. Ron Paul stood for during his campaigns. Start your own forums, gather your own grassroots, and preach the "Gospel of MAGA" to all who will hear it, but you seriously need to leave this place and stop trying to evangelize those who have higher standards of liberty and freedom than you do.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-18-2020, 06:15 PM
    So Trump will commute the sentence of a former corrupt governor who was found guilty of extortion, wire fraud, racketeering, and other charges, but he refuses to pardon a man who lost almost everything dear to him in his life for the cause of exposing lies and unconstitutional acts by our federal security organizations to spy on American citizens without due process of law, calling him a "total traitor." Anyone who continues to praise Trump after this latest clemency loses all credibility when it comes to standing for the principles of life, liberty, property, or any other principle that guarantees a free and prosperous society. And if you call yourself a Christian, especially, then shame on you. You are not advancing Biblical principles of self-government nor civic government by supporting someone like Trump, and you need to seriously repent.
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  • The Rebel Poet's Avatar
    02-18-2020, 11:17 AM
    Trump did peel off the Ron Paulers. Bernie also did. Two thirds of the Ron people had no interest in limited government and liberty, but were either just lefties driven by weed legalization, queeer marriage or were anti-war, or right wingers driven by lower taxes, deregulation, or were anti-immigrant. Once perceived better fits came along in the shape of Bernie and Trump respectively, they were gone. Which left the remaining few of us standing around looking like dickheads and wondering what happened.
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  • The Rebel Poet's Avatar
    02-18-2020, 07:23 AM
    And she's far far from the most extreme Trump supporter here. If they thought he would be less crappy, they were duped. Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. This is true. Part of the reason is that half of the movement has been suckered back into the swamp by Trump's siren song, and half of the ones who didn't get suckered by Trump think that anyone who complains about people being suckered is "deranged ". Seriously multiple members have repeatedly said over many years that they chose Trump over Rand; let's not bury our heads in the sand. Some people here have TDDS: Trump derangement derangement syndrome.
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  • jkr's Avatar
    02-17-2020, 09:44 PM
    d33p nd33d
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    02-17-2020, 09:44 PM
    d33p st8
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-17-2020, 07:07 PM
    I'm not trying to change your mind because you've already swallowed the "Blue Pill." So, for you, ignorance is bliss.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-17-2020, 07:01 PM
    You're missing the point, Swordsmyth. The fact that Trump is on the wrong side of the Snowden controversy indicates that he's not serious about government transparency, to begin with (except when it's expedient for himself, because he's an egotistical person). Trump is supposed to be encouraging more "Edward Snowdens," especially if he wants the "Swamp Things" to come clamoring out of the swamp, naked for who they truly are. And I think it's laughable that you believe Trump has exposed "the swamp." Just look at whom he surrounds himself with in his administration (especially in terms of national security and foreign policy), and you'll see that they fit quite nicely in "the swamp."
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-17-2020, 06:40 PM
    You can't call someone like Edward Snowden "a total traitor," but then turn around and claim you're going to "drain the swamp." The two sentiments are simply contradictory.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    02-17-2020, 06:28 PM
    The general public already knew about collusions amongst the FBI, CIA, and State Department before there was a conspiracy against Donald Trump and his associates, and that knowledge was escalated through Edward Snowden's whistleblowing. Trump hasn't woken anyone up to that, and he should've been exposing our intelligence community from the beginning, not when it was politically expedient for himself. Nonetheless, Trump thinks Snowden ought to be dealt with harshly, as recorded in the video above. And for what?
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