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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:23 PM
    No, you're still not getting it. It was just an example of something that is incongruent. It's not about judging anyone, I could've used a completely different example that had nothing to do with food. But if you refuse to even acknowledge that, never mind.
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    Yesterday, 08:18 PM
    Sigh. You're bringing up all sorts of other things, things are important but this post deserves a reply that would take much more time than I have right now. I really need to eat dinner… I was traveling today (planes trains and automobiles) and all I had was a small snack.
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    Yesterday, 08:13 PM
    What are you trying to do, stir the pot here? :p Yep, case in point. That's one of the things I was talking about in my previous post. Then again, some people think that she just wants attention and wants to create controversy to get subscribers and become famous.
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    Yesterday, 07:51 PM
    lol. That is one of the reasons I usually don't call myself a vegan. Even though I don't eat meat and dairy, many vegans hold beliefs I disagree with… beliefs that are unbiblical… For that reason, as well as some other reasons, I usually just say 'plant-based.'
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:47 PM
    I think you misunderstood. I wasn't saying that you would have to tell anyone anything. I was saying that if someone could not in good conscience slaughter a pig or cow for food, they are not acting in line with their conscience by eating meat, wouldn't you agree? Well, people have different beliefs, but from a biblical perspective, God did not create us to eat each other. Genesis 1 makes it clear that in the very beginning, God created all living beings, humans and animals, to be vegetarian. We've talked about this before on other threads. Do you honestly believe that a good God would create animals who can suffer and feel pain, who have a strong desire to live and enjoy life.... for the purpose of being caged and tortured and eaten? No, that's not God's original design. At least not according to the Bible, and imo to common sense and intuition.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:09 PM
    I've cared for animals all my life. I'm talking about pets, of course, but like I said, I don't think that one has to have experience working on a farm, to legitimately be a voice for the animals. As for what you said… I think that many animal rights activists do have experience with animals because typically they are people who love animals. BTW, there are a number of cattle ranchers who had a change of heart, turned their ranch into animal sanctuaries and went vegan. :) Here are a couple vids...
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  • jkr's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:56 PM
    not intentionally with medical use -thanks dea!
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:24 PM
    I eat oatmeal almost every morning too. The kind you cook on the stove. Usually with fresh fruit or whatever toppings I have on hand. My breakfast the other day. (before I added almond milk) Yes, Huzzah! :D
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:01 PM
    What's the but? Why are you asking, unless you're implying that one needs to work on a farm to have a valid opinion on this matter?
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:25 AM
    That not what I was said or meant, you seemed to be doubting that Jesus said that, that's what I was asking you about.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    05-24-2017, 11:29 PM
    I agree. Do you believe animals were created by God?
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    05-24-2017, 09:05 PM
    How very sad. Are you actually doubting the most important truth, that we should love God and love others? There are some things that we as Christians should know intuitively. We don't have to worry about Bible versions or the bible being changed or agendas of "church leaders" to discern certain basic, obvious truths.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    05-24-2017, 08:55 PM
    True. I remember hearing similar stuff when I was in college (unfortunately) and that was a long time ago. So it's probably a lot worse now.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    05-24-2017, 08:51 PM
    Yeah, I know that many believe the cultural Marxist propaganda zealously. That's why it's sad to me… So many are taking the bait.
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  • The Rebel Poet's Avatar
    05-24-2017, 07:49 PM
    I'm only going to say this once, and then I am going to resume ignoring you. CNN headline: "Trump's first budget: Trillions in cuts" Actual budget released by Trump: 2018 32 billion dollar increase over 2017 2018 32 billion dollar increase over previous year 2019 278 billion dollar increase over 2017 2019 246 billion dollar increase over previous year 2020 408 billion dollar increase over 2017 2020 130 billion dollar increase over previous year 2021 555 billion dollar increase over 2017 2021 147 billion dollar increase over previous year 2022 770 billion dollar increase over 2017 2022 215 billion dollar increase over previous year 2023 871 billion dollar increase over 2017 2023 101 billion dollar increase over previous year 2024 1011 billion dollar increase over 2017 2024 140 billion dollar increase over previous year 2025 1244 billion dollar increase over 2017 2025 233 billion dollar increase over previous year 2026 1465 billion dollar increase over 2017 2026 221 billion dollar increase over previous year 2027 1646 billion dollar increase over 2017 2027 181 billion dollar increase over previous year YOU are the one repeating the MSM narrative. Stop trolling RPF. And I have a request to make of every reasonable person on the forums. Since @Bryan refuses to take out the trash: stop feeding these trolls. Just set danno et al to ignore and say something interesting and insightful for real members to respond to instead of wasting your time talking to trolls. If we all did this the oxygen would be taken out of the dumpster fire that is the RPF troll brigade.
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  • The Rebel Poet's Avatar
    05-24-2017, 05:38 PM
    This is objectively untrue. It contradicts the actual budget Trump proposed. Are you a troll?
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    05-24-2017, 04:46 PM
    The reason I use the word "true" is because we were talking about the government labeling something "property." That is either a true statement, or it is not. But I'm glad that you agree that the law is simply what is legal, not what is true, right, or acceptable.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    05-24-2017, 04:39 PM
    I don't think it's silly at all, we're really just discussing whether a man-made law means something is actually true. This isn't that difficult. But if you don't want to discuss it then that's totally fine.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    05-24-2017, 04:32 PM
    This sounds like more divide and conquer crap to me. Phrases like "cultural appropriation" or "cisgender".... Who comes up with these idiotic, divisive phrases? Probably those who want us all to be fighting each other so we take our attention off of the true enemy.
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    05-24-2017, 04:22 PM
    That was what the law said, but my question was, was that really true… apart from the law? I don't believe that you have to be party to something to have a belief one way or the other. Let me try asking this in a different way. If our government decided to round up and enslave all libertarians, and call them "property"....and you happened to be one of the people rounded up and enslaved... Would you agree that you are truly "property" apart from what the law said? In other words, that you were no different than an inanimate object and anything at all could be done to you, and it would be moral and acceptable, simply because they claimed that you are "property"?
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    05-24-2017, 03:22 PM
    Hi! That's not the article I had read before… But he does speak about Romans 13 a lot in several different places. I also saw a video yesterday of a talk he did on that. I could post it here, but it's very long… So instead I'll try to post an article later. I really shouldn't be posting here right now, I've got a ton of things I'm supposed be doing today. :)
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    05-24-2017, 03:16 PM
    Amen! That's pretty much exactly what I was going to say to him. I like to keep things simple.
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    05-24-2017, 03:14 PM
    You can continue to pretend that an elephant, or a pig or a dog is the same as an inanimate object… but regardless of what the law says, we all know that's not true. The law also said that black slaves were "property." You guys didn't answer this question earlier, so I'll ask again. Were those involuntary slaves truly property, apart from what the law said? IMO this sounds like "might makes right." And I think we all know what happens when humans have that mentality. I don't want to judge or making anyone feel bad, I do feel it's important to ask this question... If we don't want to be treated that way, why do we do the same to those we have power over?
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  • The Rebel Poet's Avatar
    05-24-2017, 01:14 PM
    This is objectively untrue. It contradicts the actual budget Trump proposed. Are you a troll? "You must spread some reputation around before deducting it from Galileo Galilei again"
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  • wizardwatson's Avatar
    05-24-2017, 12:10 PM
    BOLOGNA People want to change the narrative now that Trump is proven a milquetoast bootlicker. The supposed "smart people" (amongst the Trump supporters) supported him because he was an alpha male winner, who wasn't going to take no crap from nobody gosh darn it! His big penis-like hotels and hot wife and say-what-he-wants attitude were outward evidence that he will bring true power back to the White House! Paul was the principled candidate. Now that Trump has been shown a weak person people want to change the narrative that Trump was attractive for his principled stances and statesmanship and he's a victim of the deep state. Cry me an f'in river.
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  • The Rebel Poet's Avatar
    05-24-2017, 09:11 AM
    How have (almost) all of you - pro- and anti-Trump alike - fell for this media narrative that this is an austere budget that slashes spending? Read the damn thing! Guys, this is not a libertarian budget, this is not a conservative budget, this budget increases spending. 2017 budget (in billions): $4,062; 2018 budget (in billions) $4,094 - an INCREASE of 32 billion dollars! But the news media dutifully repeats over and over the imaginary 3.6 trillion in cuts, and if you repeat a thing often and loud enough it becomes truth. This lie has a double effect of giving progressives the spending they want without stopping the riots, and tricking conservatives into thinking Trump is shrinking the government. https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/omb/budget/fy2018/budget.pdf#page=31 Bonus fact: It plans to increase the debt as well: Debt held by the public (in billions) 2017: $14,824 2018: $15,353 first year increase in debt: 656 billion dollars.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    05-23-2017, 06:34 PM
    I think that Romans 13 is misunderstood and misapplied by many. Chuck Baldwin did an article on this. I'll see if I can find it. But I'll probably do this later because I need to start cooking dinner soon.
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