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  • devil21's Avatar
    Today, 09:55 AM
    econ4every1 I'm attempting to teach you what they didn't teach you in school, nothing more or less. After all, if they told you that you are a securitized asset of a corporation calling itself a government, working literally to pay interest on debt that you are not responsible for, would you continue your "training" as if everything is the same? If they taught you that the capital letter name on the social security card is NOT YOU, would you continue as if everything is the same? The rabbit hole is deep but if you are truly a student of economics then you should be seeking to understand the entire system and how it operates, not just kicking around numbers. What makes you think they haven't? According to this link, Walmart alone has accounted for approx $3T in US domestic sales between 2008 and 2018 alone. https://www.statista.com/statistics/269403/net-sales-of-walmart-worldwide-by-division/ If you add in Target, Dollar stores, online, Alibaba, etc it's not only possible but highly probable that Chinese sales to Americans has far exceeded $3.2T.
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    Yesterday, 01:13 PM
    spammer reported^^^
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    Yesterday, 01:09 PM
    Spend some time learning that part, since without it, there is no Treasury bond to be issued. I'll give you a hint of where to start learning the stuff they didn't teach you in econ classes in school. It starts the moment you are born and your mother signs a piece of paper stuck in her face at her most vulnerable moment. That piece of paper turned you into a corporate slave for the rest of your life. The Treasury doesn't just create issues out of nothing. They're secured by something. Have fun.
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    04-17-2018, 08:39 PM
    Actually, econ4every1 completely missed the point of my question and never answered it. I asked how Treasury debt is created. Not how Treasury debt finds it's way to a holder, like a bank. That part is at the very end of the process. I asked how the debt issue itself is created. IOW, how does the Treasury create a bond that it auctions off. What is that process?
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    04-17-2018, 09:46 AM
    SCOTUS ruling legalizing sports gambling is dropping soon. That ruling will open up cannabis legalization under the 10th. You can "thank" Trump if you wish but he'd be taking credit for something already planned (politician's bread and butter, credit for things they had nothing to do with). State revenues will REQUIRE new taxation avenues and job opportunities and they know it.
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    04-17-2018, 09:37 AM
    econ4every1 Since you claimed in a post above that banks don't lend money to governments I have one simple question to you. If you know the answer it should prove your level of actual understanding of the current debt money system and that you're not just a fresh Economics graduate from college regurgitating theory from textbooks. Can you explain to us how federal debt like Treasury bonds are created?
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    04-16-2018, 10:46 AM
    Feel free to find a forum that is more suitable to your tastes. I don't expect you'll receive a much warmer response from others, either. If you truly think that mentioning that almost every country is controlled by a Rothschild central bank is "conspiracy theory" then you're either a shill or still much less educated than your college econ classes have led you to believe.
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    04-15-2018, 07:01 PM
    Thanks for exposing yourself with that last post. You'll earn your title as Baby Big Red Stick (lol) here soon enough.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    04-15-2018, 04:34 PM
    Stay on topic. No one brought up anything about "responsibilities" except you. Turning it into a moral discussion instead of a factual discussion shows you're not serious about learning. The term "social contract" is actually a legal contract, not some ethereal bond between people. By partaking of the private Federal Reserve System you are entering into a legal contract. The terms of the contract are not disclosed but it is what is called an "adhesion contract". To reserve your rights against terms not disclosed when entering into an express or implied adhesion contract, the Uniform Commercial Code of each state and country (the statutes that govern all business) has a remedy included. It's in your state's UCC section as 1-308, with some state specific code section. In NC, it is GS 25-1-308. Why do you think you sign things like driver's licenses, social security cards and bank signature cards? You're entering into a contract. Social contracts, all of them. We're reaching the point of rather ridiculous scenarios. Your private island, perhaps. You still wouldn't own it but you'd have final possession of it, not realistically subject to seizure, and have some freedom. Congrats on having a private island and a car to drive around on it. To remove it to a different country requires much customs approvals and legal paperwork. I don't know whether the Certificate of Origin is transferred to the new country or if a new one is issued once the car reaches the new port. Since 99% of countries are controlled by Rothschild central banks, it's easy to assume the same processes are in place in each one. eta: the link I posted above about MCOs covers some of that topic.
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    04-14-2018, 10:24 PM
    You should check definitions of words on Black's Law website instead of generic dictionary sites. You'll often find that the definition of words, legally (and that is the 1/10 that matters since it's the 1/10 that's enforced by people with guns), is different than the definition of a word according to generic dictionary websites. Black's Law definition of "owner" https://thelawdictionary.org/legal-owner/ Legal possessor....guess who that is? Btw, if you default on a credit card and a legal judgment is obtained against you, a sheriff can auction that shirt on your back. That tells you who really owns that shirt. You are only the renter of the shirt. The legal possessor. The owner of the shirt is who can force it to be sold without your permission. By purchasing something with privately owned currency (Federal Reserve Note), the owner of the currency is the owner of the merchandise purchased with that currency.
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    04-14-2018, 10:09 AM
    I don't have the inclination or the time to school you much longer, however no you never own the car. The title you receive is a use title, entitling you to possession of the car (the 9/10 of the law thing....it's that last 1/10 that matters though) but never ownership. Why do you think a cop can tow your car away for a violation of motor vehicle code? Because the STATE is the owner of the car, not you. The state holds the ownership title, called Certificate of Origin. You get a use title that allows for your possession and you register the car so the state knows where to find the state's property! All you're really doing with your posts is attempting, with some points accurate and others inaccurate, to explain the financial/legal Matrix that has been set up around us. If you own something, why do you need permission from the state to use it? If you need permission then it's not yours. Very simple. Banks, governments, etc are nothing more than pieces of paper. They are comprised of similarly brainwashed people that also believe, like you, that a "bank" is something more or a "government" is something more. Nope, sorry, just groups of brainwashed people carrying out duties that they usually don't understand past procedures they're trained to carry out.
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    04-14-2018, 01:07 AM
    ^^^^^^ I stopped reading when you said a bank loaned you money to buy a car. All of your words are inaccurate and misleading and if you actually believe what you are writing then you are no less brainwashed than the next guy, regardless of how long-winded your posts are. A bank doesn't do anything. A bank is a piece of paper. That is all. Loans from banks do not exist. The "loan" is actually the imaginary bank issuing you your own credit, which is something you can do on your own without the "help" of a bank legal entity. That is why it always needs your signature. You are authorizing the bank entity to issue you your own credit (your own labor, really) but with the bank's rules, and jurisdiction, attached. You do not "buy" a car with a loan. You rent the car, since the piece of paper that designates who has legal ownership of the car, called "Certificate of Origin", is filed with another piece of paper legal entity called a "State Government". You never see or touch that paper and thus never "buy" the car, therefore you never "own" the car, either. Guess who owns it? Money is not exchanged since money, by definition, has value. Currency, however, has no value. So, in essence, you are authorizing a piece of paper to issue you valueless currency in exchange for your valuable labor to obtain a good that you never own. Get it?
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    04-14-2018, 12:19 AM
    You know they've got vids of him at Pedo Island with his boy Epstein doing bad, bad things.
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    04-12-2018, 01:12 PM
    For review, the 2001 AUMF: https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ40/PLAW-107publ40.pdf
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    04-12-2018, 01:05 PM
    LOL. This administration is a giant joke on everyone. The biggest troll job in history.
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    04-11-2018, 09:18 PM
    Planting that one world government seed. It's the only way to avoid wars, dontcha know.
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    04-11-2018, 01:39 PM
    Actually, I didn't say it was a problem, since I'm sort of past the point of complaining about things that I can't single-handedly change. Rather, these days I speak the truth of the situation and hope that an informed people, as a whole, will decide what they think is best.
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    04-09-2018, 07:45 PM
    The catch is that no one owns anything. It is merely rented under a use license, called equitable title, and can be taken back at any time. It's why the house can be seized, car can be seized, money can be seized, sheriff can auction "your" stuff, etc. You are allowed possession of things for beneficial use of the real owner. A "happy" slave, with shiny things, is a productive (tax paying) slave.
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    04-09-2018, 01:53 PM
    Umm, it's not the Chinese or Americans that are the "offenders". Why do you think Nixon went to China with a HUGE delegation back in 1972? The year after the gold window was completely closed? The answer is because the situation with the Chinese that we are talking about now (trade deficits) was required in order to establish and, later continue, the petrodollar standard. All of this blaming China stuff is a smokescreen. The current situation was planned and executed by the same people that are now telling you to decry it. Your perception and perspective of the situation is being controlled and managed.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    04-09-2018, 01:45 PM
    No need for debate since most of us here know how much bs your post is loaded with. Zippyjuan already occupies the position of resdent RPF Fed apologist and disinfo agent. Your services are not needed.
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    04-09-2018, 12:53 PM
    Wow, it's every Zippy talking point bundled into a single post. Good job, new guy! Here's your $3.50. ------------------------------------- Speaking of Treasuries, reports that China has officially stopped buying Treasuries. Hmm...I wonder who will have to pick up the slack? https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-09/we-understand-chinese-government-has-halted-purchases-us-treasuries-sgh
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  • devil21's Avatar
    04-08-2018, 08:41 PM
    I'm listening also. The Treasury bills/bonds/issues are literally the securitization of the people born or naturalized. Imagine a mortgage backed security but instead of mortgages being bundled, it's PEOPLE being bundled, with the buyer/holder expecting future payment from tax revenues, instead of from mortgage payments. That is all that Treasuries are. Promises to force the slaves to pay taxes to the bondholders.
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    04-08-2018, 08:27 PM
    What a coincidence! John Bolton officially starts Monday. Here we go...
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    04-08-2018, 01:58 AM
    Sinclair's response: http://sbgi.net/pr-news/sinclair-responds-to-unfounded-media-criticism/ ---------------------------- "This is extremely dangerous to our democracy." That's what's ironic.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    04-06-2018, 08:11 PM
    Still no one can tell me whether Trump's "proclamation" of tariffs carried any legal weight or whether it was more fake news.
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    04-06-2018, 09:37 AM
    One thing that occurred to me, a question that no one seems to be asking, is "when exactly did we officially go into Syria?" My recollection is of a few "advisors" for the rebel groups and that's it. Today, we're talking about it like it's Iraq. Started at point A and have ended up at point Z but the rest of the alphabet is missing.
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    04-05-2018, 12:33 AM
    Hey hey, stay on the approved script, buddy. This thread is about Messicans. External threats that you must be protected from. For your safety.
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    04-05-2018, 12:27 AM
    If only he were something important, like a Commander In Chief, then maybe he'd have some sway.
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    04-04-2018, 11:04 AM
    Or not. Whatevs. As long as the Trumptards get a headline to write Donald's fan fiction stories, the truth doesn't matter much. It's too bad he's not like a Commander In Chief or something.
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