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  • devil21's Avatar
    Today, 01:44 PM
    Sorry, I don't see how giving up the last shred of real and further drifting from the constitutional principle of the coining of money in gold and silver resembles anything close to a "savior for the average people." It only separates people from what is real and is the nail in the coffin of the average person's ability to ever be anything more than a free laboring slave to the money powers. Don't be discouraged, however, since my commentary matters none and you will receive exactly what you are choosing. Thanks for the update on the FBI coins. I'm sure a VC billionaire has your best interests at heart.
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    Today, 12:07 PM
    There he is. Good to see you still around.
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    11-22-2017, 02:57 PM
    Strange things that happen when the dollar loses reserve status and, by extension, ability to print it in unlimited quantities. No need for driver violations to fill state and local coffers with printed money. Will people realize that the real long term goal of self driving cars is to completely control people's movement to the point that entire lives will be lived within 10 square miles like pre-industrial times? The cities are being transformed into Gaza-like controlled access/exit concentration camps. No traveling, no experiencing other cultures, sightseeing historical landmarks, etc. Will the next generations even care or will that be programmed out of them? Time to brush up on the Georgia Guidestones to see where tptb are pushing things.
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    11-22-2017, 01:59 PM
    Likely a bunch of internet injected disinfo to keep the increasingly irked Trumpers "hoping" while Donald continues to do the bidding of the bankers.
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    11-22-2017, 02:06 AM
    Finally! I was waiting for someone to compare me to Don Quixote! A 2007 join date doesn't remember the labels of 'quixotic' to Dr. Paul? I have become Ron. Mission accomplished. Why are you on ronpaulforums again? Why is your name RonPaulIsGreat? There is no competition since bitcoin hasn't paid for anything ever, except maybe a bag of coke on Silk Road. Speaking of, nobody wonders what the Feds may be doing with the huge amount of bitcoins they seized from Silk Road?
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    11-21-2017, 11:41 PM
    Dunno matey, mine is right where I left it.
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    11-21-2017, 11:37 PM
    Oh well, enjoy your imaginary slave tokens. After a hard 14 hours in the Foxconn factory, you can take your daily stipend of hand-chipped Amazon tokens to the Whole Foods beneath your 150sqft apartment to buy your daily approved rations. But hey, it'll be waaaay better than some stinky outdated gold standard, right? (Have you no foresight and awareness of what's really going on around you? Don't bother to answer that. The answer is already clear.)
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    11-21-2017, 06:07 PM
    Sounds about right. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-falls-31-million-theft-062249058.html
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    11-21-2017, 05:56 PM
    I can't haz Ebays and newegg??? OH NO! Never mind everything then. Muh ebayz and muh smartphonez! Advocating mindless consumerism isn't going to win you any argument points. What exactly do you need so badly on ebay and newegg that you're willing to throw away all advocacy for sound money? There was a gold standard and it worked fine until the Fed was created and hijacked everyone and everything through money printing and fractional reserve theft. Currency that could be redeemed for hard metal existed and worked pretty well. A debit card solution today could also be redeemed the same way. Just because things are electronic now doesn't mean a true gold standard wouldn't still work. I guess that won't happen though because tptb regard us (and treat us) as mere livestock slaves that are not worthy to possess the precious like they do. Slaves can't own anything. Slaves holding metals levels the money-changer playing field since that's the best money they can hold too. This is a much bigger ideological battle than gold vs bitcoin. It is about who owns you and controlling everything you do. And when you labor for mere digits on a hard drive somewhere you are laboring for free. A literal slave. Btw, newegg doesn't take bitcoin for payment. An exchange takes the bitcoin, converts it to dollars then pays the retailer dollars. You are buying with dollars, not bitcoin. Why does the bitcoin crowd insist on mis-characterizing practically every aspect of bitcoin?? No retailer that I can find straight up accepts bitcoin for payment.
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    11-21-2017, 03:59 AM
    I don't know what's serious and what's sarcasm around here anymore. 2007/2008 join dates pushing vaporware currency over sound money, 40k post members supporting federal income taxes and billionaire Presidents, etc. I honestly don't know what posts to take seriously here these days so unless it's posted by TheTexan, I consider it to be a serious post.
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    11-20-2017, 03:53 PM
    The rabbit hole is deeeeeeep. Trusts are behind everything. Thanks for the extra attention to the thread and the confirmation that I'm over the target, Zip. Now, back to the fun topic of Trump appointing La Raza as US Treasurer and Mnuchin not signing the new currency with his signature, thus making it fake currency.
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    11-20-2017, 03:39 PM
    Did you go to high school Zip? Do you remember the job of the Class Treasurer? Treasurer is the fiduciary custodian (trustee) of the moneys raised by the class, to be spent at the direction of the rest of the class officers. Not sure why you think the Class Treasurer and the US Treasurer have materially different jobs. No, it isn't. Trustees are legal owners of the contents of trusts. They are required by law to operate a trust in the best interest of the beneficiaries, however. The whole point of putting property/money in trust is so that the beneficiaries do not have legal title and control, nor the liabilities of title or control. You should read up on how trusts work. A token La Raza board member even? But no, the trustee of a trust, which is what the US Treasurer is, has real powers. Whether the US Treasurer, in this particular example, exercises the powers of trustee is unknown.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    11-20-2017, 02:58 PM
    Yes, Zippy, in the quoted post I explained that the US Treasurer is different than the Secretary of the Treasury and I even explained how.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    11-20-2017, 02:44 PM
    The US Treasurer is the trustee (aka owner and fiduciary) of the national wealth of the American taxpayer/citizen. The Secretary of Treasury is the executor (aka director) of the trust. You are the beneficiary (end user, subject to whims of Secretary as executor) of the trust. So, in short, a La Raza board member is the owner of the money collected from taxpayers for use by the US corporate government. eta: It's been reported that the United States Inc. (corporation posing as the government) is financially based in Puerto Rico, hence why it's always a hispanic Treasurer.
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    11-20-2017, 02:21 PM
    Spread it around and watch the fireworks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovita_Carranza Can someone tell me why the Treasurer is almost always hispanic? It's bizarre. ----------------------------------
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    11-20-2017, 02:05 PM
    The latest news is that Mo bin Salman will be given the throne this week and the arrested Saudis will have to liquidate their dollar-denominated assets to buy their freedom. $800 billion reported in holdings, plus their official $150 billion sovereign fund bond holdings. I think if this liquidation occurs (99% probability imho) it is the "dumping of dollar" by the Saudis that signals the official end to the petrodollar. The catch is that in order to stick with the narrative that it is "to buy their freedom" it can't be a slow sell. It has to be relatively quickly. How would the markets handle a nearly $1trillion sell-off by the Saudis?? Not well. It would modestly drive up dollar demand (DX), drive down stock markets and cause chaos in the bond markets. A flee to safety of metals since the dollar wouldn't be a safe haven anymore. Even the Fed can't soak that sort of liquidation up without broader effect to markets, particularly while pledging to reduce their own balance sheet at the same time. IMHO, once bin Salman takes the throne the sell-off will start at any moment. Not a prediction but my guess is it begins in the first week or two of December. Expect very large distractions at the same time.
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    11-20-2017, 01:27 PM
    It's an easy dog whistle. America "elected" someone that literally has NO ALLEGIANCE AT ALL to this land mass except for how to squeeze money out of it by any means necessary. Trump's corp (it's disingenuous to place it all on Trump himself) likely has ties to people from all over the planet and one can play 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon and end up at some Russian person. This is why it was absurd in the first place to seriously "elect" a (claimed) billionaire. No billionaire has any allegiance to the American people whatsoever.
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    11-19-2017, 01:53 PM
    Ron has always supported the freedom of competing currencies. The characterization, both by the article and the bitcoin crowd, that he is endorsing cryptocurrencies is inaccurate, however. He endorses competition in currency, not one currency over another. He endorses gold as money, though. Absurd.
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    11-19-2017, 02:36 AM
    Covert way to catalogue DNA and good chance the PDs are being paid for the samples. Drug stuff is secondary.
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    11-18-2017, 04:55 PM
    I'll believe it when I see it. And even then I'd suspect the indictees would be whisked away to some tropical paradise, a la Hitler. If these elites had any inkling they were seriously about to be indicted, charged with high crimes and locked up they'd have long since already left the country for their properties registered to shell corps in non-extradition countries. The secret is that living humans are not charged with crimes under our current admiralty law system. The corporate "strawman slave names" are charged and the living humans unknowingly agree to be the physical representatives of the strawman. The elites KNOW this (most are attorneys that know the system). Betcha dollars to donuts that the elites we are talking about do not have "strawman slave names" that can be charged. They are outside of the legal system, hence why nothing ever happens to them even when caught dead-to-rights breaking the law. It is said that they think they are "above the law". The fact is that the laws that apply to the rank-and-file simply do not apply to the elite and it's all "legal".
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    11-18-2017, 04:35 PM
    Your poor sentence structure is my bad faith? Oook. No I haven't but I've looked into how it currently works. Mainstream retailers that are "accepting bitcoin" are actually employing an exchange as middle man to convert bitcoin to dollars. You are giving rights to the bitcoin over to Coinbase, then Coinbase converts back into dollars and remits those dollars to the retailer. Seems the retailers do not want the bitcoin units. They still want the dollar units. ------------------ It hadn't occurred to me before but the way you describe this pooling of funds, it sounds rather....ummm....communist. Maybe communism is your thing, I don't know, but it needed to be pointed out. I don't particularly prefer either option since NEITHER OF THEM EXISTS EXCEPT IN YOUR MIND. I like real things. ymmv.
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    11-17-2017, 05:59 PM
    cointel Coincidence?
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    11-17-2017, 05:55 PM
    Yes, I get it. The original bitcoin chain is finite and that was the original selling point. It implied that there are only 21 million coins so invest now before they're all gone! Then suddenly there was a whole new chain, presumably another 21 million new coins. That means that bitcoin (as a brand name, really) can be infinitely created. Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Silver, Bitcoin Petro, Bitcoin Pencil, Bitcoin Bacon, Bitcoin Plastic, ad nausem. Run out of 21 million? Just make a new chain of a fresh 21 million. That is not finite. And it's also essentially a pyramid scheme.
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    11-17-2017, 05:47 PM
    Anyone can fork it but it's finite? Does not compute. As long as those that control the chain can collude and fork it off into a whole new chain whenever they want (as they've already done at least once) then it's the exact opposite of finite. It is infinite.
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    11-17-2017, 05:37 PM
    Sweet! You received sound money in exchange for fiat currency invested into a speculative bubble. Well played. Bitcoin is not: 1) Money 2) Currency, until it no longer has to converted into some other currency unit to be used 3) Finite, as long as it can be forked into a whole new chain at any time Bitcoin is: 1) speculative investment using existing fiat currency Blockchain will be a currency at some point but bitcoin is not. I'd have a lot more respect for the bitcoin crowd if they were honest about what's really going on with it, instead of twisting words/definitions and insisting it has properties that it does not. The corruption of the meaning of words is why we're in this mess in the first place.
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    11-17-2017, 05:06 PM
    You've done this and can personally vouch for it? For the moment it does, assuming everything in the transaction chain works out. Assuming it works the same as Expedia, Overstock, etc the gold is still being bought with dollars, however. Coinbase does the conversion for you. Hopefully they don't turn over your info to the IRS/Feds for the conversion, leading to a surprise large capital gains bill in the mail. Say again? It's telling to me that still no one has fessed up to actually converting bitcoin "profits" back into anything else. Most of the anecdotal evidence I've seen says it's a nightmare.
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    11-16-2017, 02:30 AM
    Seems a drink of water is necessary at important moments. McCain at 1:40. Fwiw, Trump's speech is the announcement that the petrodollar is dead and Asians have officially taken over this land mass.
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    11-15-2017, 11:43 PM
    Ya don't often see a sockpuppet fail on RPF but there it is.
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    11-15-2017, 05:21 PM
    lol
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    11-15-2017, 05:08 PM
    Thanks. Rather disappointed in Ron (though not very surprised) but I'm not sure I'd go as far as to call that an endorsement. It does always crack me up how bitcoin is ALWAYS shown as a gold coin. It's not gold so why is there an attempt to make it look like it is? Probably because the banker crypto version will be announced to be gold-backed, so it's implanting the image of 'cryptos are as good as gold' for later use.
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