• heavenlyboy34's Avatar
    Today, 06:07 PM
    I know my ancestry thingy said I'm a little bit injun. (Probably related to uncle @oyarde somehow) I'll have to dig into my family tree to find the specifics one day. But lol @ Pocohantas Warren. :D https://www.cherokee.org/News/Stories/20181015_Cherokee-Nation-responds-to-Senator-Warrens-DNA-test TAHLEQUAH, Okla. — Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. issued the following statement Monday in response to Senator Elizabeth Warren’s DNA test claiming Native Heritage: "A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America," Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. said. "Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage." Cherokee Nation News Release For Media Inquiries: Julie Hubbard 918-207-3896
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    Today, 12:56 AM
    iknorite? Explaining it around here feels as tedious and painstaking as the chapter in "Man, Economy, And State" where Murray takes the time to break down all the definitions and etymologies of "monopoly".
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    Yesterday, 07:49 PM
    Toobs or it didn't happen.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:19 AM
    Bizarre notion of 'cause'...
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  • heavenlyboy34's Avatar
    10-13-2018, 08:16 PM
    Cool, I've never followed Bellator, but love Feodor. Post toobz when they're up, plz. :)
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-13-2018, 02:47 PM
    lol how comforting. Definitely make it all seem worth it. Thanks for stopping by lol
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-13-2018, 03:41 AM
    Do you REALLY believe there was nothing to do but bend to the nominee or risk some political exile? There's no such thing as diplomacy, I guess? "I respect the office of the President and the authority of the chief executive to appoint Justices. Brett Kavanaugh is a mixed bag, in my view. He is a clear improvement over Anthony Kennedy, at least in terms of the rulings we have before us. However it is my belief, and my duty in my role as a Senator to advise in this process, that there are better choices for this all important role. If the president deems judge Kavanaugh to be the best choice that he can make, then so be it... but the cause of liberty is served more nobly by a nominee such as Mike Lee, or X..." Nothing so much as that, conjured up by me at 5:30 on a Saturday morning? Something that could have signaled to the people that Rand is a true advocate, even though he must play this game? No? Just drop immediately to thine knees before Trump and Kavanaugh, grasp firmly in-hand and go to work, huh? We have different ideas about what serves liberty in the long run. Again, shame what's come of this place.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-13-2018, 03:32 AM
    Welp, that didn't last very long. lol, oh well. You guys just keep compromising. Sooner or later, you'll forget what you actually stand for. But hey, who needs the 4A anyway!? As for me, I'll be over here with Ron. Ta.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 04:46 PM
    Well I'm not as old as you, so you'll have to forgive me for only being around since '08, but in that time I've served as a country chair for C4L, canvased and door-to-door'd for Ron during the '12 run; I've hosted speaking events for my local community by minor "celebrities" in the liberty movement... But the point wasn't to engage in a dick-measuring contest between you and I, obviously. It was to highlight the rather stark differences between the approach that Ron took - which was largely uncompromising, and resulted in a legitimate movement of engaged, mostly younger converts to the cause, versus the rather cynical and uninspiring approach of going-along-to-get-along, and hope for some scraps from the table that Rand seems to employ. At the end of the day, I'm not here to run Rand down... it's just that it gets awfully frustrating reading post after post abusing the very methods that brought most of us here (if you go back to my first post in this thread, you'll see that's exactly what I was getting at). Don't forget your roots, and don't forget all the good that the "absolutist" approach did. This place probably wouldn't even be a PLACE if it wasn't for it...
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 03:11 PM
    My point of view is that liberty-minded people should be highlighting the importance of, for example, the 4A protections in the constitution... Ron constantly found opportunities to speak to the people about these rights, and why they're important. As a consequence, he taught a helluva lot of people about the principles undergirding the constitution, myself included. Had he played ball, I and millions more - many of whom USED to regular this site - wouldn't have ever learned a THING about freedom.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 02:47 PM
    No. You sounds like Hillary because "than move or get out of the way". I stepped into this thread because I find Kavanaugh's position on 4A to be ATROCIOUS. That's not an UNREASONABLE position for liberty-minded folks to stake out... or at least it wasn't, time ago. Now, because I find it unacceptable that Rand - who is supposedly a standard-bearer of the liberty movement in FedGov - gave Kavanaugh a pass on what should be an i/o proposition here, I'm told to "get out of the way"... at RONPAULFORUMS. Seriously!? What the FUCK happened here?! Somehow, my POV is the problem. YOU GET OUT.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 02:37 PM
    "Hopefully this type of nonsense will end..." AFTER Kavanaugh proves - as an associate Justice - that he's worthy of defending the constitution. That's an OUTSTANDING liberty argument you have right there. Fuck's sake... this place anymore...
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 02:36 PM
    After you. It's not me who's upending the namesake of this place. ETA: Just wanted to cite my full post to which specs responded: For that, at RPF, I'm told to show myself to the door.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 02:36 PM
    lol "move or get out of the way". Christ, listen to you... you sound like Hillary.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 01:32 PM
    I prefer politicians who, when they make statements their advocates don't have to say to me, "what he meant to say was...", or "what he really means is...", or "he's playing 6D chess". Maybe there is value in that, but when you don't trust the political class - and I don't know why anyone would - it does nothing for me. I ain't a sucker.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 01:26 PM
    For the record, it is both amazing and sad that this discussion is even happening here. The destruction of 4A was at one time something of a unifying principle at this site. Now we're about parsing so-called conservative "judges" who may hold somewhat decent views on some things, yet have openly advocated shredding the right of individuals to be secure from the State in their person and papers. Hey Bryan, maybe it's just time to rename this place JohnMcCainForums.com. Seems like it might be more in line with the popular will...
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 01:17 PM
    Nonsense, and if you were around when it mattered, you'd know it. Ron wouldn't have endorsed Kavanaugh, and that's not really even debatable. Ron staked out the principled position, and whether you realize it or not, it's why you're even posting on this forum.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 11:28 AM
    Ron's role in the public eye is tremendously diminished. His role now is little different from others in the non-political liberty movement at this point. Again, if you think Ron, as a congressman, would have spoken in FAVOR of Brett Kavanaugh for SCOTUS, you're off your twig.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 10:51 AM
    Cute. Ron would have used Kavanaugh's positions on 4A to make a statement, and he would have used the opportunity to educate people about the cause of Liberty. And in the end that would have done more REAL LONG TERM GOOD than any political compromise anyone could ever make. Ron was born about 15 years too early.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 10:47 AM
    I see no 'disagreement'. I read your argument, logically constructed. I read his 'argument', which was no argument at all... it was a largely incoherent string of assertions, such that if Swordsmyth were on to something we ought to be going to him for lottery numbers and Derby winners. When I 'agree to disagree', I have not moved my interlocutor via the strength of my argument, nor has he moved me by his. But in this case, no counterargument was made. You're right. And that's that.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 10:40 AM
    :vomit: You've really let them get to you...
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 10:38 AM
    All these implied attacks on Ron's career... such a shame, what's become of this place. Ron Paul did more for the quote-unquote Liberty movement, such that remains of it, than any of you people. In fact a bunch of you are actively if not knowingly UNDERMINING so much that he did. Yet here you are attacking his strategy. What do any of you know? Something about your chains, and something about posterity ever remembering you were my countrymen.
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  • heavenlyboy34's Avatar
    10-08-2018, 08:20 PM
    Really beginning to feel like the season toady! :D Chilly breeze this evenin' and pitch dark by 6:15-ish.
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  • heavenlyboy34's Avatar
    10-08-2018, 02:54 PM
    Nice bump! It doesn't feel like autumn here till next month, so I'd forgotten about this thread. :/ Kurwa.
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