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    Today, 11:15 AM
    In my opinion it was a mix of egoism (Only he makes the best deals) and pleasing his main contributors. I think Trump wants to cut a deal and market it as his accomplishment like he does with... everything. And the neocons took advantage of that weakness. Only his deals are "The Best of the Best"
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    Today, 11:02 AM
    One take is that this was leaked to discredit the whole initiative. This is politically courageous of Rand Paul. I don't see much upside for him in doing this from a selfish political perspective. A true statesman-like gesture. The neocons will smear him mercilessly in primaries. 1151535916412014593
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    Today, 08:28 AM
    Possibly... indeed that could have been why they were clapping. Or it could be that they were finally allowed to leave the room. Talk about detention camps lol: 1151153486358335490
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    Today, 08:05 AM
    Despite my hopes otherwise... but called it. Below is the perspective from one of the most prolific anti-interventionist writers that attended. Such a sham and disappointment. We need to figure out a way to combat this insidious tactic: Nationalism, Not Neoconservatism by Jim Antle "But a nontrivial number of speakers who were on the schedule purely for their foreign policy expertise would have been comfortable during the administration of George W. Bush, who was no nationalist conservative. Bolton, who at one point stressed the common ground between President Trump and John McCain, illustrated how to package the old foreign policy to appeal to those interested in a new conservatism. ... It’s important because while Bush and McCain always grounded their foreign policy in morality and universalism, the “blood and soil” appeals they both disdained (although American nationalism has always been more complicated than lineage, ethnicity or geography) were crucial to their wars of choice achieving popular support. Neoconservatism shorn of nationalism can easily be marginalized, as it largely was during the 2016 Republican presidential primaries.
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    Yesterday, 10:41 PM
    Even the clapping was stilted. One person did it...then a pause... and others joined in probably just to be courteous
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    Yesterday, 10:11 PM
    The Iranian regime would be so stupid if they didn't make a deal. He's the least interventionist Republican President to win office in recent memory. If the Democrats win the presidency they will probably keep whatever deal Trump makes. If Trump wins again he'll say he tried and failed and the sanctions will stay and we (and other countries) will have naval ships and aircraft "enforcing" sanctions in the Persian Gulf and a "misunderstanding" will occur that will escalate out of control into a total war. Which is exactly what Bolton & Co are counting on.
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    Yesterday, 10:01 PM
    Sigh At least one non-interventionist, Cassandra Fairbanks, was there. The clapping was only half the room it seems in the video. Still disappointing: 1151331780810727431
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    07-15-2019, 08:06 AM
    By drawing attention to it (and adding a poll) I was hoping that we'd at least be aware of the efforts so we can be active/fight it if it makes sense to do so. Also bunch of articles came out yesterday and the following tweet seems to suggest that some -- Thiel in this case -- are promoting a restrained Foreign policy to the crowd. Thiel seems to be carrying Trumps water a little too much generally but it's a positive sign that the argument so far is "why Trump is less interventionist and that's good" and not "why Trump isn't doing more": 1150563324003831808 We can check out "National Conservatism" search on Twitter and there are political outlets like The Hill etc. sharing info from the conference so we can see what's going on to a degree.
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    07-14-2019, 11:27 PM
    That's a fair point. There's even some arguments that he's an "isolationist" because he doesn't respect international institutions. I guess we technically could/should use the term "hawk" or maybe "interventionist". Here is Bolton even denying specifically being a neocon. Maybe I just don't buy or value the distinction as much as others. Also he just might be a slippery fellow and be avoiding the bad neocon branding to purposely muddy the waters to further his agenda. We're counting on these guys to present themselves accurately and that's a mistake imo. In his case he's explicitly made the case for "deception" in national security affairs. In fact neocons explicitly promote the "noble lie" in much the same manner To your example about Iraq here he is saying in May 2015 that we didn't stay long enough: "I still think the decision to overthrow Saddam was correct. I think decisions made after that decision were wrong, although I think the worst decision made after that was the 2011 decision to withdraw U.S. and coalition forces," Bolton said. "The people who say, oh things would have been much better if you didn't overthrow Saddam miss the point that today's Middle East does not flow totally and unchangeably from the decision to overthrow Saddam alone." This seems quite different from the 2007 quote "the only mistake that the United States did with regard to Iraq was to not leave earlier after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein and tell the Iraqis "Here's a copy of the Federalist Papers. Good luck" referenced.
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    07-14-2019, 07:05 PM
    Good point about potentially funding our opponents. The "Edmund Burke Foundation" has zero documentation that I can see. Only this first conference list of speakers gives us any clue. If I'm right about the orientation of the speakers it's not a good sign. Just really resent the fact that that people like Bolton and May get to present their approach as the only appropriate policy regardless of their different audiences. "Nationalist Conservatives" while being "Friends of Free Iran" when it means supporting another countries regime change risking American soldiers lives. The true "Nationalist" or Patriotic policy would be the following set forth by POTUS # 1. It's so relevant it's hard to believe that we'd deviate and call any other policy America First: In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim. So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.
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    07-14-2019, 05:36 PM
    Is there an objection to referring to any of the speakers on the foreign policy panel above as neocons?
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    07-14-2019, 03:09 PM
    There's some buzz around this event. I might have issues with the "National Conservatism" approach but I didn't think foreign policy would be one of the bigger ones. This looks like neocons co-opting the Trump/Buchanan line on foreign policy issues. Despite Tucker's and Thiel's presence it has the feel of a MEK or CUFI get together for the foreign policy discussions. This will make it a hat trick for John Bolton and Cliff May (MEK, CUFI, National Conservatism). I could be wrong but from a quick search most of the foreign policy panelists (highlighted below) are AEI/Hudson/Manhattan Institute drones. There are some solid names associated with The American Conservative (Daniel McCarthy, Scott McConnell, etc) but they are pigeon holed and sequestered into the non-foreign policy sessions. Looks like just an extension of the neo-con strategy of co-opting and agitating domestic groups to support their insane foreign policy. Instead of Christian evangelists and Iranian exiles it's Trump/Buchanan "nationalist" types. I hope Tucker, McCarthy, etc get the chance to rebut their propaganda or better yet their audience is non-existent simply due to lack of interest. Pretty annoying since this really looks like something Pat Buchanan would put together and the neocons purposely stacked (it seems) it with his lifelong ideological opponents with not even a Buchanan/Trump/Paul perspective on the foreign policy panel. Shameless co-opting as described by none other than Conference guest and TAC founding Editor Scott McConnell himself. Sigh :rolleyes:
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    07-13-2019, 03:32 PM
    Dale Carnegie's book How to Win Friends and Influence People is still one of the most read (actually read vs just sold) books of all time. Due for a re-read personally and everyone should put it on their list imo:
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    07-07-2019, 11:13 PM
    Thought about all these changes as well. I've seen (admittedly toxic) office environments where managers/higher ups would have to bring in people they didn't really want due to politics/mergers/reorganizations but then they would give them visibility so they could scapegoat them and replace them with people loyal to them. Maybe Trump is letting Bolton & Co take the heat and then will say "hey we need to change course here's this guy Macgregor waiting in the wings." There were reports that Trump considered bringing in Tulsi Gabbard into his cabinet and she made the visit to Trump tower after Trump was elected. Keep in mind these people were not Trumps first choice: NSA was Flynn then McMaster, SecState was Tillerson. How did he wind up with Bolton and Pompeo (and SecDef Mark Esper)? Might have something to do with this: Bolton after McMaster pushed out: "Bolton’s connections to hardliners don’t end with the committees. Sheldon and Miriam Adelson, the top individual political contributors for the 2018 midterms and major Trump donors, personally lobbied the president to select Bolton as deputy secretary of state. While this effort ultimately failed, Bolton eventually joined the administration as national security advisor- that move came after Sheldon Adelson supported publicity campaigns against Trump’s first national security advisor, Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, that claimed McMaster was anti-Israeli in an effort to open the position for Bolton. Adelson is also a prominent supporter of major anti-Iranian lobbying groups, having donated more than $1.04 million to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee since 2007 and $1.5 million to the FDD between 2008 and 2011." Pompeo after Tillerson is pushed out: "Kushner, who has taken the lead on many of the Trump administration's priorities in the Middle East, also told the then-secretary of state that he would be in charge of negotiations involving Israel. Ward reports Kushner told Tillerson, "I want Israel," according to a former Tillerson aide." https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics/kushner-tillerson-diplomacy-book/index.html
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    07-07-2019, 07:19 PM
    Update: Stefanik denies: 1146453126511284224
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    07-07-2019, 05:21 PM
    Anyone we can get to primary Elise Stefanik in her district? She may have pushed or facilitated this move. Club for Growth is for it. Lifetime C4G score: Massie 93% Stefanik 34% 1146504107479502849
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    07-07-2019, 04:39 PM
    A sample. He's always on Tucker so that's a good sign.
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    06-28-2019, 05:29 PM
    Sigh. At least there was no Democrat NAY :rolleyes: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/450775-senate-rejects-attempt-to-curb-trumps-iran-war-powers "... Republicans, however, had appeared confident that they would be able to block it from getting added to the bill. If every Democrat supported the amendment they would still need to pick up 13 GOP senators, a heavy lift with the opposition from leadership. GOP Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Mike Lee (Utah), Jerry Moran (Kan.) and Rand Paul (Ky.) broke ranks and supported the amendment ..."
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    06-26-2019, 02:47 PM
    I wonder if they think that since high income earners are more mobile they have to resort to something regressive against the working class to have a less mobile tax base :confused:
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    06-26-2019, 01:15 PM
    Could be someone for all of us to rally around and get excited about for 2020. The seat is open (no incumbent since Udall is retiring). He should do it as a GOP candidate in my opinion since he tried the Libertarian route last cycle. The Republican party probably won't get in the way because he's a strong candidate (two term Governor), can raise money, and has a real chance to flip the seat that will probably go Dem with anyone else running as a Republican. Would be a lost opportunity in my opinion if he didn't run.
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    06-26-2019, 12:33 PM
    Anyone heard anything? It's an open seat this time and I think he should just do it within the GOP. The national GOP might even support him because he is a solid candidate that can raise his own money.
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    06-26-2019, 09:43 AM
    Of course the usual suspects (Tom Cotton) are aghast at the prospect of following the constitution at the expense of world empire. The smear campaign begins: 1143523986397171717
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    06-26-2019, 09:16 AM
    This could be big. One theory is that Trump is boxed in because of who he is surrounded by (Bolton, Pompeo, neocon campaign funding, military industrial complex, bureaucracy, etc) and wants a way out without antagonizing them. This could be it... he can whine publicly and privately to the neocons about Congress but then shrug his shoulders and say "Darn we can't move forward....what a shame" :shrugging: Blame that rascal Rand Paul! :seenoevil::hearnoevil::speaknoevil:
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    06-26-2019, 09:02 AM
    I :heart: this story. Shows how the "party of the working class" marketing is just a scam. Also shows political opportunity in that even Democrats are vulnerable to lobbying for lower taxes from their constituencies. More here with Grover Norquist: https://finance.yahoo.com/video/hypocrisy-democrats-calls-repeal-salt-161820872.html
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    06-23-2019, 02:05 PM
    This is how they operate. Insinuate themselves in the bowels (e.g. bureaucratic tapeworm style) of the bureaucracy and hire each other when openings come up. Even a neutral "clean government" approach would get rid of some of them since there is obvious graft occurring outside of the neocon ideological buddy system. Note the title vs the url: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/21/us/politics/advising-bolton-a-shadow-nsc-of-cronies.html Disgusting. Even if we have a non-interventionist as president these scum bags still can "stovepipe" all the data. Is there a way/strategy for us to fight back the same way or do we get sucked in a battle/terrain where the cronyism makes it tough/impossible for those who care for liberty (or even just plain ethical people) to succeed? NYT: Meet the Members of the ‘Shadow N.S.C.’ Advising John Bolton By Kenneth P. Vogel May 21, 2018 WASHINGTON — In the weeks after President Trump chose John R. Bolton to be his third national security adviser in March, Mr. Bolton, a veteran of the George W. Bush State Department whose bellicose manner kept him from a high-level job at the beginning of the Trump administration, engaged in his own sped-up transition process, aided by a handful of longtime associates.
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    06-22-2019, 08:28 PM
    I've seen this tactic. Let everyone give the recommendation/show their cards. Say thank you for the information and effort and then go your own way. I think we may have a chance with Trump holding things together when it comes to the final decision. The problem is he cannot stop them from undermining him. Putting troops and assets in harms way pretty much guarantees an incident. If there was even a single casualty both sides would be all in and then it's uncontrollable.
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    06-22-2019, 07:59 PM
    I don't have access to the story...behind a paywall. If true I think this is where his business "dealmaker" background didn't serve him well. In politics you can't just combine your political opponents into your team like some corporate merger. Politics is ruthless and zero sum on many issues. 1142606260803706880 One reason Trump may have felt compelled to bring Bolton & Co on: "Bolton’s connections to hardliners don’t end with the committees. Sheldon and Miriam Adelson, the top individual political contributors for the 2018 midterms and major Trump donors, personally lobbied the president to select Bolton as deputy secretary of state. While this effort ultimately failed, Bolton eventually joined the administration as national security advisor- that move came after Sheldon Adelson supported publicity campaigns against Trump’s first national security advisor, Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, that claimed McMaster was anti-Israeli in an effort to open the position for Bolton. Adelson is also a prominent supporter of major anti-Iranian lobbying groups, having donated more than $1.04 million to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee since 2007 and $1.5 million to the FDD between 2008 and 2011."
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    06-22-2019, 07:48 PM
    Heard about the sanctions but haven't seen anything about more troops... is there a link?
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    06-22-2019, 07:39 PM
    I don't have access since it's behind a paywall: 1142601210798792711 https://twitter.com/KingstonAReif/status/1142601210798792711
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