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I don't want any credit for anything having to do with RFK. He doesn't really matter to me. I appreciate that he is opposing the establishment and I hope he can gather up the non crazy liberals to oppose Biden and the gang. Ultimately I see Democrat voters as being to weak to stand up to the corruption in their party. Voting isn't my point anymore. Working with voters is what I am interested in. Voting for politicians is kabuki theater. Living with real citizens in real life is what matters to me.

Oh my dude you are hilarious. You assign all of these thoughts and beliefs to me that are not at all based in reality. I don't really think RFK is a double agent. I was just throwing out the same stupid argument you always use with Trump. You know, the moronic theory that Trump is really in cahoots with the deep state and controlled opposition and all of that. I just stated in my my previous post to you that I like some things about RFK. Somehow you are so gullible that you fall for the first outlandish thing I say about RFK being a double agent. Seriously, you do you and vote for the Democrat Kennedy. I can understand that. Seems like a pretty good guy to me. I just don't agree with most of his positions. I on the other hand prefer to join Republican voters in causing trouble for establishment Republican politicians as much as possible, for what it is worth.

I don't watch MSM at all.

Would RFK sign the ridiculous spending bills that Congress sends over? I imagine he would. I also imagine RFK would be better than every other Democrat president over the last 50 years. I appreciate what RFK is doing but I also think Trump will be more effective if given the chance. I don't expect the deep state will allow either of them to reach the White House though. I would never claim that Trump was good at being fiscally conservative. I think he his pros and cons. My biggest hope is that Trump now understands how massive the swamp problem is and would be serious about smashing it. Realistically I don't expect anyone to change things, but given Trump's experiences over the last 9 years I think he is the most prepared. I live in AZ where our elections are rigged so how I vote doesn't matter. Currently my preference is: Trump

Obviously RFK is a double agent working a 3D chess game for the D.C. establishment to get you to vote for tyranny. I am amazed you can't see that. You think he is some outsider that wants to break the system, but he is their greatest tool. He will promise you all of these things and then break your heart and then we will have to listen to you make excuses for him for the next 4 years. You go ahead and fall for the illusion. I won't be joining you.

I have considered voting for Kennedy... I contemplated the integrity he seems to have, I considered how he knows and will publicly talk about corruption in the federal government and I pondered his stupid liberal positions which I abandoned 20+ years ago. I appreciate that Kennedy is an old school liberal and not a modern lefty, but he is still a liberal Democrat. I no longer hold the opinion that liberal Democrat policies are good for our country. I would on the other hand love to see Kennedy appointed as Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, where he would oversee the FDA, CDC, NIH and divisions. I would tell him to take any steps necessary to clean that mess up and fire 25% of the staff, starting at the top of each division. Personally I think we need actual libertarian/conservative solutions and my hope is that the Republican voters can continue to drive out the neocons and reduce the corruption within the ranks of Republican politicians. I have no hope for the Democrat party. You do you and vote for the Democrat Kennedy. I won't be joining you.

Is it really that hard for you to understand? People have a choice to vote or not vote. On occasion someone good like Ron Paul gets in but usually it is someone worthless. Does that make voting for Ron Paul a mistake? Not in my book. If nothing else it is fun to screw with the criminals in D.C. by electing Thomas Massie. Sure it doesn't stop the generations of corruption that have infected our government but it is still worth doing. I think electing Trump was a much better option that Hillary, maybe you disagree. There were some good things that came from it, even though the swamp is still as strong as ever. Ultimately the deep state has a strangle hold that won't be broken anytime soon so elections don't have much more significance than throwing a wrench into a small set of gears. It is what it is.

I agree. What is most needed is a legal mechanism that allows for the current government to be dissolved in a way that the general population can stomach. I think most people would rather live with this uncomfortable status quo rather than see a violent revolution. If there was a simple way for We The People to fire all off the current Congress and ban them from holding further office, people might be down with that. When you have nothing, you have nothing to lose. A "Saved by Zero" situation. Currently as bad as things are, most people are still far from zero. They have things to lose, and so they are risk averse. Without a violence-free solution, the people will hold until that are forced to take action. These are dangerous actions that the politicians are taking as we just don't know which straw will break the camel's back. We are sitting on a powder keg and politicians are flicking lit matches. The long train of abuses and usurpations is undeniable. Clearly it is our right and duty to throw off such government.

I don't know what you are talking about and it isn't my job to excuse Trump for anything. Worse than that, to me, it just seems wildly inappropriate to be throwing pardons around to people just in case they ever get charged with a crime in the future. Now that we all see the abuse of power coming from the Biden DOJ, it is very appropriate for any future president to issue pardons and apologies... and pay reparations to the people that have had their civil rights violated.

Pardoning people for charges that haven't been filed, and for convictions that haven't happened is highly unusual I believe. I would even say that would seem like an abuse of power to just hand out pardons to people just in case that get charged with a crime in the future. I think it would be appropriate for the next president to pardon the Jan 6th protesters now that their Sixth Amendment and other rights have been violated. Pardon nearly all of them, except those working for the FBI, CIA, etc. Then tell them all to file a class action law suit and direct the DOJ to not fight it and pay up!

When was the first conviction of a Jan 6th protestor?

The government in DC doesn't represent American citizens and they don't care that we know it.

How can Trump pardon people when he isn't in office? I don't think former presidents have that power do they?

Good thing he became a Republican ;)

What's your source on Alex Jones saying every single person in Bilderberg is evil? I thought he always had moles inside Bilderberg. What's an assault weapon? Is this an assault weapon?

Any of those people still alive are in their 80s or 90s... their offspring and people they have trained to take over are a combination of retards, over-zealous fascists and also probably some people who are actually on our side.

I think he made the same mistake a lot of people here make. He thinks everybody who is rich is evil, i.e. Peter Thiel. Many people here think everybody holding power is evil, i.e. Donald Trump. What he missed, because he doesn't understand economics and money, is that crypto isn't a ponzi.. it's an exit strategy. Trump isn't a pawn of the deep state, he's not a massive psyop... he's an exit strategy. There are a lot of rich people and a lot of somewhat powerful people who understand what's going on and are ready to sweep the rug. There are also a lot of brainwashed leftists who have no idea what's going on, unfortunately. That's the wildcard.

I'm more of the view that the kleptocracy was very powerful for a very long time, but they had kids, their kids had kids, and they are retarded. Many of the OGs have died off. Now they are trying to hold it together and are losing control, now they are like a cornered animal, lashing out with their lawfare against Trump and desperate attempts to keep it together. Hopefully they don't start WW3 over it.

Well, that didn't seem to settle much of anything. Uygur with his weak virtue signaling, apparently thinking that if he talks against Turks, he will be taken as honest and trustworthy. Oy. Dave Smith is nothing to write home about either. Prager has his moments, but isn't really that good at debate. The woman was mostly on the money, whoever she is. But there seems to have been some fundamentals missed. For one thing, we have no idea whether what we see in reports regarding either side of this giant bowl of liquid feces is reflective of truth. The Israelis have been up to all manner of chicanery for 75 years. One can debate whether circumstance drove them to it, or if they are just a raft of scummy people of whom perhaps the world would have benefitted had the Final Solution been successfully concluded. I'm unwilling to assume anything on that question. The same may be said of the Arabs of the region, however less clever and artful they may be. I don't trust any of them, taken statistically. Praeger made a fair point when he stated that the deaths of civilian Arabs lies squarely at Hamas' feet. They started it, operationally speaking, and hid among the people they are supposed to protect. There can be no question of their cowardice. The woman also made an important point about war, that it is and ought to be horrific. It is, after all, war. It is interesting to observe how few people hold a reasonable grasp of the most fundamental nature of warfare. These dummies, Smith and Uygur, are of that ilk (as are many in the military who should know better) wants warfare to be comparatively sanitary. This is patent idiocy. War should be out and out slaughter. It should be so atrocious, people are unable to wrap their heads around it; so horrifying that even the so-called "hawks" quit their moaning and scheming for it like covetous street whores they are. Much as is the case with freedom, the mean man wants all the benefits of war without those aspect of it that they find unappealing. "OOoooo... don't kill civilians... it's immoral...", as if two armies murdering each other en masse were somehow otherwise. I love how people rationalize the most absurd things, while condemning that which can actually be justified. This debate was pointless, IMO. The real questions were not treated in a way that addresses the fundamentals of the issue, which is the only way to get to the truth. They kept the discussion up in the haze of comparative irrelevancies and they largely ignored the fact that we're not privy to the whole truth.

This was a deceptively dense bit with a lot crammed into a few short minutes. The thing that strikes me most is, once again, the weak link. That would be us; our attitudes; our will to commit, and to what we would apply it. I disagree with the assertion that prior to Musk's acquisition of twitter, there was no way for people of common interests and goals to get together. Even Eville™ facebook provides ample opportunity for such congress. I would also point out that the dissemination of the brands of information that this guy is claiming to be so recent, has been largely available for over 30 years now. USENET was a fine resource with tens of thousands of newsgroups where people discussed and argued over anything from the manifold deceptions of "government" (e.g. Gulf of Tonkin) to how to rim your girlfriend. Saying that this is some new thing is clearly incorrect. To my eyes, the real difference here is one not of access, but of incentive - motivation. Prior to 9/11, Americans were mostly droning along from day to day in the cloud that lead them to take nearly everything in their lives for granted as they wrung their hands over which color ought be the new BMW. Then the towers were demolished in a cloud of vast lies and bullshit. It was interesting to observe how vast legions of Americans outright refused to consider that which was so obvious to we, the engineers, shrieking at us that we were looney conspiracy theorists, apparently oblivious to the fact that the official story describes a pretty grand and very dark conspiracy in itself. It seems to me that the odd bedfellows phenomenon is now arising not due to sudden availability to truth, but to the fact that Theye are squeezing us more severely than ever before, encroaching in a ceaseless expansion of trespass to the point that businessmen can barely conduct business without "government's" nose in their sphincters. So it's really not some great awakening born of the great and inherent, if heretofore latent, goodness of these people, but due almost solely to the desperation of rats with no place left to hide.

As others have mentioned, I too heard this story on Art Bell.

For Pete's sake man, READ WHAT I WROTE. Why does everything with you seem to have to be a fight? And your logic isn't. Tons of NYC detectives did plenty of cocaine, for example. It's as if you live on a different planet than the rest of us.

As I wrote previously, the timing cannot be dismissed. This is transparent bullshit. It will be amusing to see how it plays out. I'm thinking the time has come to get that $300K in silver coin... though I remain unconvinced that it will serve the purpose for which it will have been intended. Then there's bitcoin, in which my faith stands on similarly shaky ground. Theye have it in for us, American middle-class more than anyone else, and they by all means have the ability to crash the global economy in hours if it pleased them, which I think it does not. But if Theye begin to feel an existential threat, who know what will happen? Those fools are capable of anything.

Well sure. That's all part of the general strategy. Take the ground out from under people's feet so they can no longer tell one thing from another. Neutralize their cognitive reach by keeping them ignorant of all standards, save the one that says there are no standards. This destroys everything in a man; his faith, trust, innate intelligence because he has nothing solid against which to work it. Not unlike muscles, a mind rendered idle atrophies. We are in the hands of the devils that scared Satan from hell such that he's now at Heaven's gate, tearily begging asylum from an evil that left him paling. Certainly so of Biden. Trump, I'm not yet quite convinced on, though his failure to drain the swamp was indeed a spectacular fiasco.

OK, simmer down. Let's look at a recent fact. RFKJ suddenly changes to "independent" (how potentially ironic) shortly before a very important election (as elections go, anyhow). Recall the words of the filthy communist shill, FDR, who candidly quipped that in politics there was no such things as coincidences. I do not say that this closes the door on the man, but it certainly gives much upon which to keep one's eyes. Now consider the possibility that everything we see is theater... everything significant, that is. Imagine that the Democrats see they are going to lose in a big way and sense that maybe they won't be able to get away with yet another stolen election. What shall we do? Have one of our... <AHEM> trump cards come out to play. Out of nowhere, the great Kennedy name drops from the DNC sleeve, but knowing their credibility is slipping badly, the new candidate declares independence in the effort to enhance credibility of trustworthiness. After all, this is a Kennedy! We instruct him, perhaps years in advance (after all, these people are careful planners, IMO), to begin spewing a carefully architected litany of talking points that will get conservatives going "hmmm...", the goal there being to siphon off just enough votes to once again make credible a stolen election appear "clean". Clean enough to avoid consequences, that is. Wild, you say? Too wild? Sure, and FDR didn't taunt Japan into attacking us. Northwoods never happened. Tonkin. Weapons of mass destruction. Lusitania. Russia 1917. China 1940s-70s. Khmer Rouge. Amin. Gulf wars. 9/11. Covid. Shall we go on with the drearily long list of grand conspiracies in which nobody believed until after the rotten facts became what we now know them to have been?

Clearly you do not understand the first thing about me. Go in peace.

Normally, no, they wouldn't. Same with Trump being able to go to his Supreme Court case, or to his son's graduation. Which is what makes this all so obvious.