• CCTelander's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:10 PM
    Voting is the most sacred sacrament of the religion of statism. It lends the patina of legitimacy to everything the state does thereafter. That alone is reason enoughto abstain, may TheTexan forgive me for saying so.
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    Yesterday, 08:58 AM
    No, see, you don't understand. It's the Democrats and "lefties" who are eeeeevvvvviiiiilllll. The conservatives and Republicans are pure as the driven snow. Well, except for the ones who aren't, of course. But then, they aren't true Scotsmen so ...
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    10-15-2018, 12:26 PM
    :rolleyes:
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  • CCTelander's Avatar
    10-15-2018, 11:41 AM
    Well, you wouldn't be getting attacked if you weren't trying "to destroy the liberty movement." You know, destroying the liberty movement by standing up for the principles it's founded upon. :confused:
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  • CCTelander's Avatar
    10-14-2018, 10:45 AM
    I'm right there with you. I'd +rep you if I could.
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    10-14-2018, 10:39 AM
    You forgot "vote often."
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    10-14-2018, 10:33 AM
    This sounds an aweful lot like the promises Republicans made back in 1994 when they were basically begging Americans to give them control of both houses in spite of the fact that they'd just stabbed us in the back by collaborating in the passage of both the 94 assault weapons ban and the Brady Act, the latter they went so far as to engage in late night holiday sessions in order to help rewrite the bill to include the instant background check, rendering it de facto federal registration of all new gun sales. They got their wish. Big red wave in today's terms. Majorities in both houses. How many of the promises above did they actually keep, among many others? NONE. NADA. ZIP. A BIG FAT ZERO. Typical. Go Republicans.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-14-2018, 04:19 AM
    Bizarre notion of 'cause'...
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-13-2018, 02:47 PM
    lol how comforting. Definitely make it all seem worth it. Thanks for stopping by lol
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    10-13-2018, 03:41 AM
    Do you REALLY believe there was nothing to do but bend to the nominee or risk some political exile? There's no such thing as diplomacy, I guess? "I respect the office of the President and the authority of the chief executive to appoint Justices. Brett Kavanaugh is a mixed bag, in my view. He is a clear improvement over Anthony Kennedy, at least in terms of the rulings we have before us. However it is my belief, and my duty in my role as a Senator to advise in this process, that there are better choices for this all important role. If the president deems judge Kavanaugh to be the best choice that he can make, then so be it... but the cause of liberty is served more nobly by a nominee such as Mike Lee, or X..." Nothing so much as that, conjured up by me at 5:30 on a Saturday morning? Something that could have signaled to the people that Rand is a true advocate, even though he must play this game? No? Just drop immediately to thine knees before Trump and Kavanaugh, grasp firmly in-hand and go to work, huh? We have different ideas about what serves liberty in the long run. Again, shame what's come of this place.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-13-2018, 03:32 AM
    Welp, that didn't last very long. lol, oh well. You guys just keep compromising. Sooner or later, you'll forget what you actually stand for. But hey, who needs the 4A anyway!? As for me, I'll be over here with Ron. Ta.
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  • CCTelander's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 07:37 PM
    Or Trump made it official government policy.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 04:46 PM
    Well I'm not as old as you, so you'll have to forgive me for only being around since '08, but in that time I've served as a country chair for C4L, canvased and door-to-door'd for Ron during the '12 run; I've hosted speaking events for my local community by minor "celebrities" in the liberty movement... But the point wasn't to engage in a dick-measuring contest between you and I, obviously. It was to highlight the rather stark differences between the approach that Ron took - which was largely uncompromising, and resulted in a legitimate movement of engaged, mostly younger converts to the cause, versus the rather cynical and uninspiring approach of going-along-to-get-along, and hope for some scraps from the table that Rand seems to employ. At the end of the day, I'm not here to run Rand down... it's just that it gets awfully frustrating reading post after post abusing the very methods that brought most of us here (if you go back to my first post in this thread, you'll see that's exactly what I was getting at). Don't forget your roots, and don't forget all the good that the "absolutist" approach did. This place probably wouldn't even be a PLACE if it wasn't for it...
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 03:11 PM
    My point of view is that liberty-minded people should be highlighting the importance of, for example, the 4A protections in the constitution... Ron constantly found opportunities to speak to the people about these rights, and why they're important. As a consequence, he taught a helluva lot of people about the principles undergirding the constitution, myself included. Had he played ball, I and millions more - many of whom USED to regular this site - wouldn't have ever learned a THING about freedom.
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    10-12-2018, 02:47 PM
    No. You sounds like Hillary because "than move or get out of the way". I stepped into this thread because I find Kavanaugh's position on 4A to be ATROCIOUS. That's not an UNREASONABLE position for liberty-minded folks to stake out... or at least it wasn't, time ago. Now, because I find it unacceptable that Rand - who is supposedly a standard-bearer of the liberty movement in FedGov - gave Kavanaugh a pass on what should be an i/o proposition here, I'm told to "get out of the way"... at RONPAULFORUMS. Seriously!? What the FUCK happened here?! Somehow, my POV is the problem. YOU GET OUT.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 02:37 PM
    "Hopefully this type of nonsense will end..." AFTER Kavanaugh proves - as an associate Justice - that he's worthy of defending the constitution. That's an OUTSTANDING liberty argument you have right there. Fuck's sake... this place anymore...
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 02:36 PM
    After you. It's not me who's upending the namesake of this place. ETA: Just wanted to cite my full post to which specs responded: For that, at RPF, I'm told to show myself to the door.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 02:36 PM
    lol "move or get out of the way". Christ, listen to you... you sound like Hillary.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 01:32 PM
    I prefer politicians who, when they make statements their advocates don't have to say to me, "what he meant to say was...", or "what he really means is...", or "he's playing 6D chess". Maybe there is value in that, but when you don't trust the political class - and I don't know why anyone would - it does nothing for me. I ain't a sucker.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 01:26 PM
    For the record, it is both amazing and sad that this discussion is even happening here. The destruction of 4A was at one time something of a unifying principle at this site. Now we're about parsing so-called conservative "judges" who may hold somewhat decent views on some things, yet have openly advocated shredding the right of individuals to be secure from the State in their person and papers. Hey Bryan, maybe it's just time to rename this place JohnMcCainForums.com. Seems like it might be more in line with the popular will...
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 01:17 PM
    Nonsense, and if you were around when it mattered, you'd know it. Ron wouldn't have endorsed Kavanaugh, and that's not really even debatable. Ron staked out the principled position, and whether you realize it or not, it's why you're even posting on this forum.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 11:28 AM
    Ron's role in the public eye is tremendously diminished. His role now is little different from others in the non-political liberty movement at this point. Again, if you think Ron, as a congressman, would have spoken in FAVOR of Brett Kavanaugh for SCOTUS, you're off your twig.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 10:51 AM
    Cute. Ron would have used Kavanaugh's positions on 4A to make a statement, and he would have used the opportunity to educate people about the cause of Liberty. And in the end that would have done more REAL LONG TERM GOOD than any political compromise anyone could ever make. Ron was born about 15 years too early.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 10:47 AM
    I see no 'disagreement'. I read your argument, logically constructed. I read his 'argument', which was no argument at all... it was a largely incoherent string of assertions, such that if Swordsmyth were on to something we ought to be going to him for lottery numbers and Derby winners. When I 'agree to disagree', I have not moved my interlocutor via the strength of my argument, nor has he moved me by his. But in this case, no counterargument was made. You're right. And that's that.
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 10:40 AM
    :vomit: You've really let them get to you...
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  • A Son of Liberty's Avatar
    10-12-2018, 10:38 AM
    All these implied attacks on Ron's career... such a shame, what's become of this place. Ron Paul did more for the quote-unquote Liberty movement, such that remains of it, than any of you people. In fact a bunch of you are actively if not knowingly UNDERMINING so much that he did. Yet here you are attacking his strategy. What do any of you know? Something about your chains, and something about posterity ever remembering you were my countrymen.
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  • CCTelander's Avatar
    10-11-2018, 02:57 PM
    One authoritarian sounds very much like another. At least we're not getting stabbed in the back by the "left wing nuts."
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  • CCTelander's Avatar
    10-11-2018, 12:48 PM
    Better to be ignored by bloodthirsty individuals so filled with hate and rage they've lost all sense of reason or prportion, methinks.
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