• ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    Today, 09:45 AM
    Between the poor internet access and jet-lag and visiting friends I haven't had a lot of time to post any messages but that should change after today. The good news is I am able to get the VPN connection established so I can see all the western sites I want. Very tired right now so nighty-night...
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  • ProIndividual's Avatar
    04-30-2016, 11:53 AM
    My goodness, if this is true, the loss of principles is complete. Any respect I had left for this man, as his father's son, would be gone. If you guys support this guy for President again over an actual liberty candidate, out of some nonsense nepotism-esque worship of his last name, I swear you are all dead to me. Endorsing the nominee is different than endorsing before the Convention is over. This is horrid. How can any liberty candidate do this? How can you endorse an authoritarian whose rhetoric borders on fascism (deportation of millions, mostly peaceful religious minority on a registry, economic nationalist protectionism, 3 chances to denounce Putin killing journalists and not denouncing it, calling it "leadership", drug warrior, etc, etc., etc.)? Some of you people have lost your minds judging by the posts I've seen over the last several months, if indeed you ever had your minds to begin with!
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  • Conza88's Avatar
    04-29-2016, 06:09 PM
    Yeah, you clearly didn't understand it. I didn't see any "state" mentioned specifically in that excerpt of yours; aye? Put down the pitchfork. Who is granting the state rights? :rolleyes:
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  • Conza88's Avatar
    04-29-2016, 08:30 AM
    Yes. Meh. Good for speculators for being treated well in a sense. See; JT's review.
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  • Conza88's Avatar
    04-29-2016, 08:28 AM
    The pre-1914 world saw no immigration issues or policies, and no real border controls. Instead, there was free movement in the real sense; there were no questions asked, people were treated respectfully and one did not even need official documents to enter or leave a country. This all changed with the First World War, after which states seem to compete with having the least humane view on foreigners seeking refuge within its territory.The “immigration policies” of modern states is yet another licensing scheme of the 20th century: the state has enforced licensing of movement. It is virtually impossible to move across the artificial boundaries of the state’s territory in the search for opportunity, love, or work; one needs a state-issued license to move one’s body, be it across a river, over a mountain or through a forest. The Berlin Wall may be gone, but the basic principle of it lives and thrives. Yet the immigration issue seems to be somewhat of a divide within libertarianism, with two seemingly conflicting views on how to deal with population growth through immigration. On the one hand, it is not possible as a libertarian to support a regulated immigration policy, since government itself is never legitimate. This is the somewhat classical libertarian standpoint on immigration: open borders. On the other hand, the theory of natural rights and, especially, private property rights tells us anyone could move anywhere — but they need first to purchase their own piece of land on which to live or obtain necessary permission from the owner. Otherwise immigration becomes a violation of property rights, a trespass. This is an interpretation of a libertarian-principled immigration policy presented by Hans-Hermann Hoppe a few years ago, which since then has gained increasing recognition and support. I intend to show that the libertarian idea is as powerful as we claim, and that there is no reason we should not be able to reach consensus in the immigration issue. Both sides in this debate, the anti-government-policy as well as the pro-private-property, somehow fail to realize there is no real contradiction in their views. The anti-government-policy immigration standpoint (or, the open borders argument) and the pro-private-property ditto are two sides of a coin; their respective proponents have simply fallen prey to the devil in the details. Let’s go through the main arguments of both camps, and see to their respective strengths and weaknesses, and I’ll show you how this is true. We must not forget libertarianism is not a teleological dogma striving for a certain end; it rather sees individual freedom and rights as the natural point of departure for a just society. When people are truly free, whatever will be will be. Hence, the question is not what the effects of a certain immigration policy would be, but whether there should be one at all.
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  • Conza88's Avatar
    04-29-2016, 08:19 AM
    I literally cannot fathom this. He did NOT speak nicely of Ron back in the day; and he was always dismissive. He was literally incapable of seeing Ron's nuanced approach; that his real goal was education first & foremost: Stefan was guilty of the purist deviation fallacy. I haven't been listening / paying attention to him or his podcasts for about a year. What did I miss? How on earth has it gone all Trumptard?
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    04-29-2016, 07:45 AM
    That was the UFO detector going off. Little did everyone in the room realize but at that time our space fleet was scrambled (on order of the President of course) because of one of many invasions that the goonerment protects us from every month. Our unsung heroes in space once again sprung into action without concern for their safety to protect our way of life. Of course the speaker had to make light of the alarm because the sheeple must never know about these invasions because "they can't handle the truth"...
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    04-29-2016, 07:38 AM
    The bigger "threat" is VR sex than robot sex. Robots are limited by manufacturing process but VR has no limitations Imagine girls you can have 6 VR football players to fawn over you and "perform" just the way you like it. No complaints, no hesitation, no arguments. Guys, just think, you can have 6 bombshells performing and not arguing. This is available to you 24/7 no matter how stinky you are or whether you shaved or not... You don't even have to "limit" yourselves to humans. One can have sex with Disney fairies, space aliens, even a "robot" or two... Once VR sex becomes affordable to everyone (or most everyone) there will be no procreation and that will be the end of the human race (or perhaps babies will be grown in test tubes by the goonerment)...
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    04-28-2016, 07:38 PM
    People starting to get angry about goons gooning others...
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    04-28-2016, 07:09 PM
    +rep Why so many are fooled by this blowhard is beyond me...
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  • Conza88's Avatar
    04-28-2016, 04:17 AM
    Did you make the video ;o
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    04-27-2016, 10:01 PM
    Yeah, goons are in "no way" obligated to intercede and do heroic things, but all the sheeple must still WORSHIP them as "heros"...
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    04-27-2016, 04:14 PM
    It didn't help when the air traffic controllers did it...
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  • Conza88's Avatar
    04-27-2016, 08:50 AM
    No Rothbard, try again.
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    04-26-2016, 08:32 PM
    Oh, yeah. Tomorrow we get on the plane if there are seats (we are flying on buddy passes). Fourteen hours later we will be landing in Beijing. Although I have "issues" when in China (mainly the internet censorship) it should be a good trip. I look forward to meeting with friends and family there...
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    04-26-2016, 08:28 PM
    Na, he's a good kid Had dinner with him last time I was in Beijing and although we don't see eye to eye on everything I have no doubt he's on the path to liberty. It took me many years to get to understand what Liberty is and I'm pretty sure it was a journey for everyone else here too. He is able to see something that everyone who stays in the US their whole life cannot see. The enormous level of propaganda in the USA. When one is immersed in another culture you have a unique opportunity to see how false a great part of what you were conditioned with your whole life. I don't think he's ever going to go "communist" (especially since the Chinese themselves are marching 180 from that ideal)...
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    04-26-2016, 08:24 PM
    I don't like to disagree with the Judge but I think he's mistaken here. There's NO WAY the "criminal" criminal justice department will indite a connected criminal like Billary. They have a nasty habit of leaving dead bodies everywhere they go and no one seems to be immune. I've said all along that she will walk and if I'm wrong, you can slap me.
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    04-26-2016, 08:16 PM
    Damn, you beat me to it...
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  • Conza88's Avatar
    04-26-2016, 08:29 AM
    This is what you get with positivists. Pathetic. I guess this guess passed off as "deep"? It's embarrassing. Yeah; not happening. They're completely ignorant of methodological dualism. Yeah - which what, takes on the form of? It's contradictory if given any of the below.
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    04-26-2016, 04:48 AM
    ^ ...
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    04-25-2016, 10:21 AM
    I'm going to China for almost a month. I'll try to post a few observations here while I'm there. RonPaulForums are not censored there yet so I shouldn't have any issue. Any links to "verboten" sites like youtube will not work, of course unless I get my VPN working over there. I have youtube withdrawals when I'm there and can't get through the great firewall...
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  • Conza88's Avatar
    04-25-2016, 07:49 AM
    It became pretty clear principles over pragmatism wins in the long run. Education is the first and foremost point of focus for any campaign; that's what made Ron special. That clearly was not Rand Paul's goal or strategy. It was to "win" first. That fails. If you can't understand that; then nothing will help. Not burying the philosophical & educational discussions would be a great start. No-one makes clear what libertarianism is better than Stephan Kinsella. Although this passage by Murray Rothbard is hard to surpass:
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  • Conza88's Avatar
    04-25-2016, 07:17 AM
    Still in Oz. Landed a new role in the industry I was aiming at jumping into in the States. Potential stepping stone atm. :)
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    04-25-2016, 06:13 AM
    Can't wait to get them... When are they going to be available?
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  • Conza88's Avatar
    04-25-2016, 01:30 AM
    Similar - no time to edit etc. but could pass on, for someone to take up the task. For the new era.
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When most people are exposed to the idea of a society organized without taxation, they often jump to the conclusion that the services provided by government would no longer exist. After it is proposed that these services would still exist, but they would be provided by voluntary organizations, they assume only problems and chaos could ensue. Warlords, crooked arbitration, justice for only the rich… surely these are unavoidable consequences of a society without taxation!

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Taxation is theft, purely and simply even though it is theft on a grand and colossal scale which no acknowledged criminals could hope to match. It is a compulsory seizure of the property of the State’s inhabitants, or subjects. – Murray Rothbard
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