• Occam's Banana's Avatar
    Today, 01:49 PM
    Raimondo let his desperation and enthusiasm get the better of him. He saw what he wanted to see, rather than what was actually there. So did a lot of other people. Given that what they wanted to see, had it been so, would've be a hell of huge improvement over what we actually had or ended up with, I'm not going to hold it against them. They were wrong, but I'll save my venom and spite for my actual enemies, not for someone like the founder of antiwar.com and one of the most tireless and vehement critics of US interventionism. LOL. The only hostility here is coming from you. The OP posted an article sharply critical of Trump's foreign policy, and your immediate response (post #2) was to snipe at and rant about the author, without addressing the actual content of the article at all - because it's all about you, isn't it? I don't have any problems with calling out Raimondo et al. for their mistakes when there's a constructive point to doing so. But it's not even slightly edifying when the only real purpose behind it (as you have admitted) is just to stroke yourself publicly.
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    Today, 08:44 AM
    Ummm, yeah... I'd like to follow "the actual teaching of Christ" too. I'm just not 100% sure what they are. Oh, you tell me they are in "the Bible"? Which version do you feel is the one that God himself authored? Was it in the king's English or Aramaic or Hebrew? Do I need to learn all of those languages or do I have to "trust" interpreters? Are the dead sea scrolls the "official" God written originals or some other scroll? I hope you understand what I'm trying to say. "Christians" (and I'm one) are some of the worst people in understanding how things get changed over time and 2000-5000 years is a very LONG time... I'm not trying to shake any Christians' belief in "the Bible" but really, I hope that people use their God given logic in analyzing what they are being told by church "leaders". Everyone has an agenda (Pope, preachers, ministers, teachers, scientists) and consciously or unconsciously they can and do distort things they read or observe in nature to meet their agenda goals.
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    Today, 07:44 AM
    So they wanted to "turn on" their giant spy system with an orb that looks like it belongs in some wizard movie and these people are supposed to be "spiritual" Muslims and Christians?? I must be dreaming. Surely I'm about to wake up any second...
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    Today, 07:44 AM
    So they wanted to "turn on" their giant spy system with an orb that looks like it belongs in some wizard movie and these people are supposed to be "spiritual" Muslims and Christians?? I must be dreaming. Surely I'm about to wake up any second...
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    Today, 07:23 AM
    But even each man's interpretation of "God's law" is written in the heart of that particular man. We do not know what "God's law" is and so we each determine what it is based on our own mind and spirit. Sure, we have the Bible (and others have their "book") but who wrote those?? We believe that God himself had some hand in the writing but really, we all KNOW that it was written by men, right?? God did not magically write down a bunch of words and bind them up in a nice book for us to read. These are collections of writings that we believe were "inspired" by a spiritual connection to our Creator and most were (in my opinion). I outright reject some of them, I accept a good percentage of them, and have questions about others... Ultimately, it is I who determines what "God's law" is in my life.
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:11 PM
    This is just plain creepy... So what's the significance of the orb other than to be a gathering point for filthy rich foulks to gather around and devise ways to screw over the masses??
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:01 PM
    It would be nice if Liberty and responsibility were interrelated but they are not. Everyone has a God given right to Liberty, even those who don't understand or exercise responsibility. To put ANY qualifier to "Liberty" is to defeat it entirely. All one has to do to violate someone's liberty would be to claim they are acting irresponsibly. No, they have the right to be entirely irresponsible and if their actions affect me then I have a right to respond as I see fit. If they hurt me or my family I will act. Think this changes because you have goons in blue and goons in black robes?? It does not!! I will still act if someone crosses some line in the sand and the goons be damned...
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  • Occam's Banana's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:38 PM
    *yawn* However wrong he was about Trump - and he was quite wrong - Raimondo has done more for the liberty movement just by founding antiwar.com than you have ever done or ever will do in your entire lifetime. But by all means, keep on making kissy-faces at yourself in the mirror while you masturbate, if it makes you feel any better about it ...
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  • ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:53 PM
    Lets talk about "morality" and "law". Ultimately we ALL live only by our own "law". We can start with simple examples such as speed limits. My personal "law" is that I can go any speed that I determine to be safe. My personal law will conflict with others who think I need to go 35 in their designated zone. Since I do not believe in their "law" I flagrantly disregard it and go over 35 any time I want to but I do so with the knowledge that men in blue may chase me and try to make me pay a man in a black robe who believes in the 35mph "law". This is not just true with me but it's true with everyone. If you personally believe that you should be able to do something, you WILL do it when you believe you will not get caught. This includes murder. Billy the Kid believed he "had a right" to kill people and take their stuff. He exercised that "right" until someone who disagreed with him put a stop to it. Life is conflict. We measure our actions by the conflict we might encounter. I don't kill anyone, mainly because I believe it to be immoral but also because someone may not like me killing them (or their loved ones) and kill me instead. This is reality. This is life. This is the "law of the jungle". Personally I believe that our Creator has a moral code that we need to live by but I recognize that others may not believe so and will live accordingly. This is why owning weapons is so important. We need them to protect ourselves and our stuff. Think the goons in blue are there to protect you?? HAHA! Research it...
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  • Occam's Banana's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:19 PM
    That depends on what, exactly, you mean by "truly." If by "truly" you mean "objectively provable/knowable," then you would be arguing in a circle. In any case, I simply wanted to point out that moral subjectivism and moral relativism are not the same things.
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    Yesterday, 01:18 PM
    Mordor-on-the-Potomac is allied with Far-Harad-on-the-Arabian-Peninsula. The Orb is their Palantir ...
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    Yesterday, 01:01 PM
    Only a fool finds "truthiness" to be useless - and at any rate, you certainly seem to find "those people" quite useful as a means of loudly, publicly and self-righteously congratulating yourself on your own "courageous" (:rolleyes:) and perspicacious "truthiness." I'm just glad when anyone recognizes and disassociates from error (by whatever path, however circuitous it may be), and I'll not shit on them for doing so. In fact, it's exactly what I hoped for when I said before the election that I hoped Trump would win just so that his supporters (some of them, at least) would learn better. In the future, Raimondo et al. will be more apt to circumspection in their enthusiasms for flighty demagogic blowhards - and that is far more useful and important (not to mention constructive) than your egotistical investment in being able to tout yourself as having been "right" all along ...
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    Yesterday, 10:34 AM
    Only if you don't understand the fallacy of affirming the consequent (which was my point about DFF's "logic" to begin with).
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    05-22-2017, 10:37 PM
    Ha! I get your sarcasm there...
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    05-22-2017, 10:28 PM
    I feel for the victims but I don't believe but maybe 10% of what I'm hearing (that's my standard for the lying news-no more than 10% can be true... the problem is determining what the 10% is...)
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    05-22-2017, 08:24 PM
    Fixed.
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    05-22-2017, 07:45 PM
    Trump is so good at playing the long game, he was even doing it two years ago. That tweet was just a head fake. Trump was trying to throw the Deep State off his scent. This whole arms-deal thing was only a ruse to get access to the Orb. You see, Trump actually wanted to touch the Orb so that he could gain the power to oust Paul Ryan ...
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    05-22-2017, 07:37 PM
    What you are talking about here is moral relativism, not moral subjectivism. They are not the same thing. A moral subjectivist asserts that morality is arrived at subjectively (i.e., that there is no objectively "provable" moral code) - but this does not mean that the subjectivist does not believe that his code is "right" (or at least "better") compared to other codes. A moral relativist, on the other hand, asserts that no moral code is any "better" than any other (including his own). All moral relativists are also moral subjectivists, but not all moral subjectivists are also moral relativists.
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    05-22-2017, 07:10 PM
    romper, bomper, stomper boo, tell me, tell me, tell me do ...
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    05-22-2017, 06:46 PM
    Fixed.
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When most people are exposed to the idea of a society organized without taxation, they often jump to the conclusion that the services provided by government would no longer exist. After it is proposed that these services would still exist, but they would be provided by voluntary organizations, they assume only problems and chaos could ensue. Warlords, crooked arbitration, justice for only the rich… surely these are unavoidable consequences of a society without taxation!

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Taxation is theft, purely and simply even though it is theft on a grand and colossal scale which no acknowledged criminals could hope to match. It is a compulsory seizure of the property of the State’s inhabitants, or subjects. – Murray Rothbard
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by Wesker1982 on 08-12-2011 at 02:51 PM
We have conclusive evidence that Ron Paul advocates the private production of all defense services. See:

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