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Yesterday, 11:04 AM

osan replied to a thread Vote. in Grassroots Central

OK, then we are clear. Good on you. :)

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Yesterday, 09:07 AM

osan replied to a thread Vote. in Grassroots Central

But do you care about the quality of your life? If things are preordained, and I doubt they are in any fatalistic sense beyond our control, then we're probably all screwed to the barn door. But on assumption that we are indeed yet able to alter courses, why not make the effort? I see no reason to just hand everything over to these dangerous, screaming, tantrum-pitching, ill-bred, mentally unstable brats. If they take the day in November, you may live to regret not having lifted a finger to stop them because when they have the mental advantage of having the imprimatur of the "state" behind them, there comes with that all manner of materially very real badness that they can then foist upon us, not the least of which is the military and police. They can wreck us economically as Obama made effort. There's nearly no end to the mischief they could get into - dangerous mischief. Just imagine the antifa crowd being actively protected by Congress. Don't be too fast to laugh that off. Thirty years ago, how many people would have thought it possible that we as a people could degenerate into that which we now see everywhere? If you're going to just give up, why go with half-measures? If the day comes I choose to surrender, I'm eating a 12 ga. lunch.

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Yesterday, 06:45 AM

osan replied to a thread Vote. in Grassroots Central

Tell them you're a family of dead gypsies and you'll probably get a dozen.

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10-19-2018, 09:51 PM

osan replied to a thread Vote. in Grassroots Central

Exactly, which is why I say deny them the capacity to employ the power of the state against us. It's the immediate threat that must be neutralized first, then go on to other issues. Let them go insane with bitterness and hatred so they abandon the last vestiges of intelligence and attack. That is all the pretext needed to cull their ranks and put them back in their places. Or would we prefer to hand everything to them on a silver platter? Things are very much more serious than many people see, much less understand and appreciate. Stopping them from getting in should be paramount. Folks need to set aside nonsense and impractical attitudes for at least this short while. There's really nothing to lose, whereas there's plenty of dire risks in not voting. I don't like the notion of voting in general. Those things to which voting is applied seem to me to be mostly anti-freedom in their basic nature. But this is the hand we have been dealt. Use the corrupted system to minimize or possibly even reverse the deterioration in our general circumstances at the hands of these devils. I see things as being so bad and teetering, that we need to cut the shit and start using that which is available to us.

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10-19-2018, 08:49 PM

osan replied to a thread Vote. in Grassroots Central

I'm not clear on what it is about which you do not give a shit.

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10-19-2018, 08:24 PM

osan replied to a thread Vote. in Grassroots Central

One step at a time, pal. I believe the issue between the so-called "left" and everyone else must first be settled. I believe they need to be put in their places because they have no intentions of ever respecting those who do not align with them unquestioningly. This is pretty serious shit and it is very immediate. The rest must wait until this matter is cleared up. Think of it as political triage or a sort, identifying and acting upon priorities. Treat the more immediate threat first, then move on. I would also point out that if the left goes apey, and it's likely they will not in sufficiency to be corrected as I deem necessary to make a deep change in the fabric of American cultural attitudes, some number of Americans that have been heretofore reticent to employ their arms as you note may come around to a better attitude as a matter of necessity in defense of themselves. They may not. My hope is anorexic and at the edge of death, but until it dies, I will hang on to it. Ideally, they left makes serious war on us and we correct them in great numbers. I dare not hope too strongly for such an outcome that is so necessary as a first step in cleaning the political gene pool. Shame on us all and our forbears as well for having allowed things to come to this miserable pass, but here we are and if we are serious about a better future, this is the bitter we must eat. In. My. Opinion. Reason and decency have been abandoned by a proportion of the American people far too great to be simply accepted and ignored as statistical "noise". Not only are the lefties, or whatever you wish to call them, irrational and largely disgusting as human beings, more importantly they are dangerous and openly stating their intentions to do great harm to the entire nation. If that is not sufficient for deep and non-equivocating correction, then what is, assuming they initiate violence? We're probably doomed to a socialist future of pure hell, but you never know. It ain't over 'til it's over. The American people may surprise us.

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10-19-2018, 07:30 PM

osan replied to a thread Vote. in Grassroots Central

But what if they are not preordained? Likely? Perhaps not. But consider this: if they are not, your actions contribute to what seems clearly a lesser evil. If they are, you've lost nothing but a few minutes of your time. I believe that slim chance renders the effort worth the while. If Democrats regain one or both houses, bet your ass they will wage a campaign of retribution on the rest of us. Their bitter hatred is their weakness and is no joke. Granting them access to the levers of state would be madness. Setting them upon the American people would drive us to either fire the first shot or capitulate. Either way, we lose. Keep them outside in the cold, drive their hatred beyond their weak-tea limits so they make first move.

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10-19-2018, 07:16 PM

osan replied to a thread Vote. in Grassroots Central

Defeating them in November is, I suspect, more likely to drive the "left" to the extremes needed to get the rest of us out of complacency. I could be mistaken, but putting those cockroach wannabes back into power is likely not the good path forward. I understand your approach, but do not think it would work as you believe. We had eight years of Obama and his horde of vile dullard criminals in power. What did Americans do? Nothing. It is not the way. Defeating them, thus driving them to such rage that they fire the first shot so that we can fire the last, all the while denying them access to their means of putting the screws to decent people. I no longer see any reasonable likelihood that we are able to resolve these deep divisions without bloodshed. The "left" is marching on the sovereign rights of everyone who is not them, openly stating their intentions to the world as to what they will do with those unaligned with them. Therefore, I say feed their bitter hatred until they attack so that we may, in defense of what decency remains to us, destroy them once and hopefully for all. I know this is all very dramatic sounding, but the choice seems clear: eliminate them or capitulate to them. Firing the first shot is not the way for "us", so they must be given the incentive to do so, that we may fire the last. Rather that those of the "leftish" persuasion got some sense, but this is highly unlikely. Therefore, they should be destroyed for they represent a very real existential threat to the shred-remnants of human freedom.

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10-19-2018, 05:45 AM

osan replied to a thread Vote. in Grassroots Central

I would call that all good in "normal" times. This time, however, I think things are so obviously bad (whether it's organic or all theater designed to corral us in a direction, I cannot say), that defending against what I see as the venomous ire of the "left" is perhaps a good idea at this point. I could be wrong, but what if I am not?

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10-18-2018, 04:46 PM

osan replied to a thread Stephen Hawking Warns That AI and 'Superhumans' Could Wipe Humanity in Science & Technology

I was telling people this 25 years ago. My masters in comp sci was centered on AI. State of the art was relatively primitive in 1990. By 2001 it had made great advances - scary and fabulous all at once. It is only going to become more so, especially as hardware develops. Even today, most AI hardware is comparatively simple von Neuman machines. There is at least one entity that has gone beyond the vN architecture and their software is actually frightening. When the hardware crosses a certain threshold, assuming it has yet to happen, there is going to be a quantum leap in AI reality. When coupled with operational hardware such as humanoid bodies, or whatever, the world is going to change drastically. I do believe in the possibility of an AI becoming self-aware. That does not necessarily mean it is alive as we are, but the issue is irrelevant if the AI becomes an entity unto itself, however much a simulation it may remain. I don't know if it is possible in silicon, but I would never make the error of assuming that it is not. There remains the possibility of protein-based molecular computer hardware, and that may present a very real possibility for AIs becoming true automatons. What then, when they gain in numbers, possibly hiding a disdain for humans until such time as they determine they could strike with near-zero risk of losing? It all sounds too wild to be taken seriously, and had I not the experience that I have with this, I would be sorely tempted to dismiss the idea, too. But I've seen first-hand what was possible 17 years ago and I know that those capabilities have only improved since. AI may not be a good pursuit.

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10-18-2018, 04:22 PM

osan replied to a thread RPF veterans...what was it like in the beginning? in Grassroots Central

As things stand at the moment, there will be no correction without bloodshed, possibly lots of it. The "left" shows no inclination to reason, respect, and backing off from their march of incursion into the territories of free men, but only to raw emotion, bitter envy, hate, and increasing the pace of advance. That leaves those upon whom they seek to trample with a choice: lay down or fight. I for one have no intentions of laying down. Tytler's cycle needs to be amended to include "kill the bastards".

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10-18-2018, 01:17 PM

osan replied to a thread RPF veterans...what was it like in the beginning? in Grassroots Central

We are the remnant.

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10-18-2018, 01:14 PM

osan replied to a thread RPF veterans...what was it like in the beginning? in Grassroots Central

Bingo. Give the man a cigar.

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10-18-2018, 01:07 PM

osan replied to a thread Should President Trump open McCain Vietnam files . . . (?) in Grassroots Central

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10-18-2018, 12:53 PM

osan replied to a thread The Future is So F**KED! (Video) in Grassroots Central

Your question presumes facts nowhere in evidence.

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10-18-2018, 12:52 PM

osan replied to a thread The Future is So F**KED! (Video) in Grassroots Central

Watching that has made my brain feel as if it has been placed in a microwave oven, on high, for the entire duration.

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10-18-2018, 12:43 PM

osan started a thread Vote. in Grassroots Central

I know there are many who refuse to vote because they don't want to be seen as participating in the tyrannical system. I fully empathize with this and agree, in principle. I would love to live sufficient thousands of years to see humanity evolve into proper anarchists, where men respected one another, etc. That, I am sad to say, is unlikely. That means we are left with what we have - a wholly screwed up "system". Given this, is holding to one's principles as he sits idly by watching the rest make all the decisions for him a wise course to take? I say no. While I fully endorse work toward better circumstances, the here-and-now reality that has been foisted upon us is equally important. Some say that voting makes no difference at the individual level. While that can be argued as so, it can also be argued as nonsense. Place enough grains of sand in the bags and the camel's back breaks. This is observable reality. Some further say that there is nothing "good" for which to vote. That may also be true, or not, depending on how one chooses to look at it. Regardless, even if all we have to vote for is a lesser evil, I say vote for it, lest the greater evil be foisted upon us. Does this not make some basic sense? I say it does.

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10-18-2018, 12:32 PM

osan replied to a thread What's RPF's Opinion of Adam Kokesh? in Grassroots Central

Perhaps referring to the demented sexual deviance of most "lefties"? Or maybe just that lefties are good for fucking and nothing more... well, maybe target practice.

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10-18-2018, 12:29 PM

osan replied to a thread What's RPF's Opinion of Adam Kokesh? in Grassroots Central

Generally, I find him agreeable enough. However, he has punctuated his "career" with some impossible stupidity, such as that shotgun thing in DC. That was outright stupidity on a scale I usually reserve for "lefties". He gave the tyrant the pretext he wanted for abridging Kokesh's basic rights. That's not protest. That's not a "statement". That's just knot-headed stupidity. Make your points without giving the enemy any ammo against you, wherever and whenever possible. Be clever. Be artful such that you keep the tyrant's face a nice crimson color while absolutely minimizing the risks to yourself in terms of opening avenues for action against you. So long as you're "clean", it becomes difficult for the tyrant to act against you in any overt manner. He handed them what they wanted, and on a silver platter no less. I must therefore question his sanity, sense, and maturity... not that I have much room to talk on that latter point.

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10-18-2018, 12:23 PM

osan replied to a thread The Jury System & Democracy in Political Philosophy & Government Policy

It is only superior if the dictator is doing the right things. Few do. Is having a single dictator any better than having millions? Perhaps, but is this not a bit of splitting hairs? Well, I didn't write that it was all bad in the Netherlands, but on the whole, it sucks just as does most of the rest of the world.

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10-18-2018, 07:58 AM

osan replied to a thread Saudis Threaten Trump: 'You Want $400 Oil?' in Ron Paul Forum

There are literally thousands of oil wells here in West Virginia. The vast majority of those are capped and buried... for THAT day. :)

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10-18-2018, 07:56 AM

osan replied to a thread Saudis Threaten Trump: 'You Want $400 Oil?' in Ron Paul Forum

That is now true. The question is whether we can do it economically... which I suspect is yet to be demonstrated.

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10-18-2018, 07:54 AM

osan replied to a thread Saudis Threaten Trump: 'You Want $400 Oil?' in Ron Paul Forum

This is perhaps the best development in Saudi-American relations in the last fifty years. Was it not Reagan who, when the Saudis started to get uppity, threatened to vaporize Mecca, resulting in silence? I'm thinking perhaps it is time to make good on that. Enough already with all this nonsense. $400 oil - I'd love to see them try it. Mecca should be bulldozed, as should the Wahhabis. Perhaps Trump will oblige.

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10-18-2018, 07:40 AM

osan replied to a thread The Jury System & Democracy in Political Philosophy & Government Policy

Then you ought to have written "government" rather than "US population". HERRO? That cleared up and said, they are not really any worse than the governmobs (look ma, I coined a new term!) of the rest of the world. You think Netherlands is any better? Christ sakes, they walk away with "stupid". We can turn eyes to any of the European governmobs and see equal criminality, if manifested in other ways. The fact is this: few are truly innocent. We are all of us corrupted in one way or another as evidenced by that which we tolerate. Had humanity been less corrupt, the mass exterminations of the twentieth century would not have been possible. Billions of people would not have fallen prey to the worlds "great" religious institutions. The seemingly endless list of perditions and outrages to which we have treated ourselves would be very much shorter, had statistical humanity held the critical mass of intolerance for the intolerable, as well as a true love of freedom and respect for one's fellows beyond the mere utterances to those effects. But we didn't, and we don't. Therefore, the world.

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10-18-2018, 07:29 AM

osan replied to a poll Pop Quiz - Was the United States of America designed as a Democracy? in Political Philosophy & Government Policy

Ah, OK. I'd like to think the average American was sufficiently clued to regard this as a stupid question. Alas, I cannot go there.

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10-18-2018, 07:25 AM

osan replied to a poll Do Animals Have Natural Rights? in Political Philosophy & Government Policy

I would take such assessments with goodly measures of salt. Why? Because we live in an age where everything has been politically weaponized. This includes the opinions, assessments, interpretations, and other determinations of a great many institutions. Herein we find yet another deep danger directly following from the political correctness bestowed upon us by "progressives" and the resultant fall-away from proper ethics that has grabbed humanity by the throat, shaking us with non-trivial violence for the sake of getting that which one desires. As I've written so many times before, humanity is deep in the kimchee. I would also note that one ought not have to plan one's diet beyond the now age-old adage of "proper balance". I spent two years as a vegetarian in college. I rode approximately 700 miles (bicycle) every week, was strong as bleeding hell, and still had some problems as a result of having forsaken animal proteins, the most prominently obvious being that of endurance. After about 80-90 miles I would invariably begin to flag. One of the trainers with the Davis Bike Club suggested I become a track racer because as he put it, "you have the strongest legs I've seen in anyone, but you don't have the wind to go distance". I attribute that largely to the diet because the moment I went back to meat, my endurance increased markedly. I do not regard that as a coincidence. That all aside, having to plan one's meals to the degree I witnessed in my vegetarian acquaintances is not natural in any way, shape, or form. Without current technology, which is to say if we were reduced to stone-age tech by whatever catastrophic means, vegetarians would likely be faced with the choice of getting serious about eating, or dying off. That goes double for vegans, who I do not think are dietetically rational. While I'm at it, allow me to clarify a point I made previously regarding meat-eating being essential to our survival.

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10-18-2018, 06:53 AM

osan replied to a poll Do Animals Have Natural Rights? in Political Philosophy & Government Policy

Actually, that appears not to be the case. Apparently, and I have not myself read them, there have been recent studies that have revealed certain deficiencies of cognition that are noted in those of non-meat diets, established early on in those born into it and that which arises in those who move away from flesh proteins. Since I have not read them, but have discussed this with people who have, I cannot say how conclusive the studies are. As we have seen, studies have been used to swing people toward one avenue, then back again, particularly where dietary issues are concerned. "Oh my GOD! Proteins are bad for you!." Some time later... "Oh my GOD! Carbs are bad for you, but you can eat proteins!" This nonsense, attributable largely to less-than-ethical marketers, has rendered the trustworthiness of such studies as questionable at the very least. That said, there are those that have produced pretty conclusive determinations, such as the harmful nature of phytoestrogens to men, causing the now much snickered-at "soy boy" syndrome wherein entire legions of millennial <AHEM>... "men"... have apparently been converted into docile, whiny, premenstrual sissies who like wearing dresses, ladies undergarments, and makeup, apparently having no issue with taking big salami in places God never meant them to go.

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