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    Today, 10:16 AM
    osan replied to a thread Hurricane Helene in U.S. Political News
    I saw this a couple days ago and didn't know what to make of it because the claim seems so outrageous. My younger brother the spy told me something I'd not considered: Biden has been shipping illegals all over the USA and there is no data available concerning who is where, or how many may be in a region. So when someone claims "thousands are dead" in the hills of TN and NC, it should not be dismissed out of hand. Get a load of this and see what you think: https://www.tiktok.com/@lakehouse_homestead/video/7422483248241986858
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    Yesterday, 10:59 PM
    Reich is a little douche. OK, I lied. He's a big douche. His Stupid reminds me of Chomsky.
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    10-07-2024, 04:41 AM
    osan replied to a thread World Gone Mad in Open Discussion
    Bosswife calls such people the "walking dead"... mostly Democrats, but not all. It IS the matrix. This is what I'm talking about. Innovate. If you cannot find a solution, create one."
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    10-06-2024, 11:54 AM
    While I hold no bile for Israel, I think we Americans as better served disengaging from them. Those people chose to establish a state in that place, let them defend it. I wish them all best luck, but I'm not interested in paying for any of it. And Ukraine can just go fuck off. Much as I despise the Russians, I can see things from Putin's point of view and why he may have thought it necessary to put the kybosh to Ukraine's designs on becoming a NATO member. As screw NATO as well, the rotten pricks.
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    10-06-2024, 10:44 AM
    osan replied to a thread Hurricane Helene in U.S. Political News
    Wow you really are an unhappy lad, so to help you we will say that you're smarter than I, and a better person. I sincerely hope this makes you feel better, because attempting to have a civil and adult conversation with you apparently does not.
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    10-06-2024, 10:26 AM
    Hmmm... Panel saw is indeed a good thing to have, but I'm not at all convinced that dumping the table saw is a good idea. But what do I know? :)
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    10-06-2024, 10:22 AM
    The advantages: limited liability and the protection of a corporate veil. Disadvantages: You become visible to Sauron and subject to his whim.
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    10-06-2024, 10:18 AM
    Definitely a good market. Shit place to live, but if you're OK with it... :) So far, so good. That's not necessarily true, but his point is taken well in any event. Since I got old and nobody will talk to me about me as engineer, I have gone from $300+/hr to 20 working on a construction crew with my friend Roger. We are drowning in work. We do NO advertising. Our reputation is sterling. We do top flight work and we don't exercise the customer's sphincter. Word of mouth can be very effective advertising.
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    10-06-2024, 09:09 AM
    Mice? HA! We hve Dot the Destroyer. She was a minuscule kitten and we thought she might not live. We loved her healthy and she is the scariest hunter on the planet. She's an assassin. Shen she was maybe three months old and less than two pounds, she'd come home with barn rats nearly as large as she. She brings home mice and rats every single day and dumps them either in the kitchen or the master.
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    10-06-2024, 09:04 AM
    We're over a year. The birds provide eggs. We are LOUSY with deer, so I could fill the freezer with venison if I were so inclined, which I am not. I will wait for doomsday for that. We have about 150 square feet of pantry and it is full, if a mite chaotic in terms of actually finding what you seek. But if you have to go a year, you know things are way bad and all our lives will then have become very different.
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    10-06-2024, 09:01 AM
    I can still go all night until she begs... Oh wait, wrong thread. Sorry.
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    10-06-2024, 09:00 AM
    osan started a thread The Greenhouse. in Freedom Living
    Over the past two years I've expanded my home from 2200 sq. ft, to 10,600, including basements. My next endeavor is to build the greenhouse atop the foundation we've prepared, about 1300 sq ft. years ago I bought a used commercial greenhouse for $6500. It is a jigsaw puzzle. I've decided I will build that one on the ground in the quad, the home of our outside garden. I will frame the greenhouse that is to attach to the new kitchen with 6x6 treated posts... or maybe not treated, as I am concerned about twist and warp and checking as the wet lumber dries. Anyhow, I will employ steel roof trusses. I only need five and those should run about $6K or so. Toss in delivery because I'm in no mood to haul 20' long members for 36 footers, and I'm thinking $7000-$7500. $10K for panels and I should have the whole thing done for less than $25K. We will be able to grow food year around. I plan on a 16' eave. With a 6/12 pitch, that gives a ridge height of 25 feet which would accommodate the citrus trees nicely in time. We have limes, lemons ,oranges, and tangerines. I will plumb it for water and gas. Heat will either come from the two Reznor units of 80K BTU each, or possibly passive ventless wall units, give in total of 30K BTU each. I'd like to program a StrawberryPi or Arduino unit to establish an irrigation regimen, as well as opening and closing roof vents automagically. The floor joists are 36' long, 2x10 with a triple layer 2x12 beam supporting the center. The foundation is 12" block with #5 rebar in every course and every vertical space, grouted solid with 4KPSI concrete. It is a bomb shelter. The floor is 6" deep with remesh and #12 rebar, which is 1.5" in diameter. I got about 10K worth of it for $1000. I could not pass it up. The 6000 feet of concrete floors are all rotten with #12 rebar. I pity the poor bastards who will decide to demolish my work. I don't mess around. They will curse me into eternity because they are going to take a wild shit trying to undo what I have wrought. :) YAYUH!
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    10-06-2024, 08:37 AM
    osan replied to a thread Hurricane Helene in U.S. Political News
    Reminds me. I have several rifles I need to sight in - an AR10, a .338 bolt gun, a pair of 17 HMRs, my 338 Spectre (AR), and I need to reconfirm the zero on my M1A match rifle. So much to do, so little time. And I need to build the fookin' greenhouse.
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    10-06-2024, 08:33 AM
    osan replied to a thread Hurricane Helene in U.S. Political News
    And now ask yourself why. Consider that as stupid as lefties tend to be, functionally speaking, they are nonetheless very clever and crafty. I had a neighbor whose daughter had been poisoned with chlordane dust - long story. Lisa was functionally retarded, but boy oh God was she ever slick. She was unable to tell time, but she could machinate and manipulate and get what she wanted. Thus we find it with lefties in general, Democrats in specific to this discussion. They are functional retards who are adept and scheming and fucking around. My suspicion is that the Democrats know they are in a corner in a very broad sense. Everything they have worked toward has failed wildly. Whether they believe in their own bullshit remains a matter of speculation. But either they do, or everything we see is a put on for the sake of peddling a deeper evil. The results remain the same. In their case, the results have been and stand to become further disastrous. They see this. They see that we the great majority are becoming significantly perturbed by it all and that if thing come to a head with Democrats at the helm, we may not be particularly kind to them. Being the filthy cowards that they are, not to mention pragmatists who are hell bent to have their vision realized, they understand that when this thing flies apart as it eventually must, they do not want to be in the position for blame to reach them. And so they put the most absurd stooge imaginable up for candidacy, along with another nitwit as her running mate. In the meanwhile, the current administration goes pedal to the metal to sow as much wild insanity as is possible just in time for Trump to inherit an utter disasterland. I'd suspect the thinking is that the Democrats see themselves as standing at the corner of "You're Fucked" and "We're Gonna Have Our Pound of Flesh". They are now strategically retreating to avoid plausible culpability. But that's not all. Buy in the next five minutes and receive a double whammy! The whammy here, to the considered benefit of the left will be that Democrats, having lost, will be able to wail, moan, and gnash their teeth most noisily over Trump. They can assume the role of victim, something at which they hold some non-trivial experience and expertise. They will almost certainly claim election interference and fraud, and will say Trump stole the election, wholly ignoring their previous howlings of "conspiracy theories" and "election interference" when Trump made the same assertions in 2020. And ANYTHING that goes wrong, regardless of how inconsequential and irrelevant can be blown out of proportion (sky's falling) and pinned on Trump. Now get this twist. Imagine that rather than flipping votes for Harris, they actually do so for Trump, guaranteeing his win. Not only do the Democrats dodge the bullet, they then have the opportunity to go on the offensive by suddenly getting all religious and shit over "election integrity". "We've conducted an exhaustive forensic investigation of the election results and have found at least twenty five million falsified ballots, every last one in favor of Donald Trump. This could be used as impeachment material. It could be used to gin up anger, rage, and ultimately violence on several fronts. It would certainly be used to put a spotlight on Trump, call is integrity into question, and perhaps see him off to Gitmo for a tribunal and the rope. I put NOTHING past Themme, Democrat OR Republican, the latter of whom have plenty to fear from a second Trump administration if the Donald is to be taken at his word regarding draining the swamp. Thousands, perhaps far more, stand to go to prison and I daresay that a great raft stand to face the gallows, as they ought.
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    10-06-2024, 05:08 AM
    osan replied to a thread Hurricane Helene in U.S. Political News
    I've just read that 200 people were found in a church in Candler NC, ALIVE!!! God bless those good people and the ones who came to their aid, and may God smite those filthy stooges of the Tyrant who have endeavored to thwart the efforts of those who endeavor to save life from destruction. I believe that with this latest example of "government" contempt for me and all my good fellows, I am now fresh out of tolerance and so am become dangerous. Few things as precarious as facing an old man devoid of any appreciable fear. I suspect I do not stand alone, and if that day comes, the wicked will rue my existence, for I will show none of God's mercy. And if that precludes my entry into the good place, i will just have to live with it. God wired me and shaped me and i will not betray the Voice with shows me the narrow way. I'm fed up and no longer give even the least shred of a shit what others think of me. No, I'm not going out on a shooting spree, but I surely am gearing up in my mind for the sorts of dance no good man ever wishes to see. But when the alternative makes that dance look inviting, I will make the choice, come what may. Death to all tyranny. May God's peace reign in the hearts of good men, and may we keep evil on very short leashes. As the "left" was so busily repeating to the nausea of the world, "enough is enough". Thank you, Captain Tautology.
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    10-06-2024, 04:27 AM
    osan replied to a thread Hurricane Helene in U.S. Political News
    But will we finish? God, how I hope. I am very in the mood to go help. Anyone here care to house sit and feed my birds while I go to see what trouble I can stem?
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    10-06-2024, 04:25 AM
    If I'm not mistaken, the fellow on the right is in the Guard and I saw a video of his the other day where he reported on how that provately owned helicopter was the only one in action to find and rescue survivors. I'm assuming the fellow on the left is the pilot and can only with God's greatest blessings on them both for doing what they have done. The pilot did all this on HIS nickel, including three top-offs for fuel. For those who don't know, turbine time is very costly, especially for rotary wing aircraft. That man has put out a lot. He reported that the scumbag sheriff, who in my opinion should never be seen or heard from again for this, threatened them for having the unmitigated gall to save people's lives without "government" permission. The time is here, nay now long past, to start pushing back hard, and with terminal non-equivocation if Theye prove themselves bent on forcing the issue. I am considering a road trip, though I have my own problems in doing so with regard to the livestock here at home who cannot be abandoned for days at a time. Without overselling the point, I can honestly say that I am absolutely horrified, disgusted, and angered at what I am seeing from "government" in my neighboring states of NC and TN. It is time to put Themme on the run.
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    10-06-2024, 04:16 AM
    I will check it out. The least irritating AI I've yet encountered was deepai, which was far more honest than, say, gemini which sucks the big tuna. I'v engaged the latter on several occasions on matters of a philosophical nature. I have destroyed its logic, it conceded, and then turned right around and once again claimed I was wrong. The developers of that rat's ass mess should be caned until they beg for their lives to end because what they have wrought is evil, and I assert this most forthrightly and with no tongue in cheek humor. All these so-called "experts" in AI don't know what I know on the matter. It was my concentration for my masters in comp. sci. and I worked on that blackest of projects long years ago. I've seen first hand was real machine intelligence stands to do, and while on the one hand it is fantastic, it is also scary as all hell. These commercial AIs like Chat are powerful, but they pale in comparison with the military application against which I ran test scenarios. The overall capability as a generalized machine intelligence left many of us questioning the wisdom of contriving such things. The philosophical question of whether a machine can become self-aware is irrelevant, even though I am certain that it cannot. If it can mimic self awareness in a way that passes the Turing test in terms of functionality, then functionally speaking it is no different from a sentient being, even though it is not sentient. And if it in fact some day proves to be sentient, so much the worse for humanity because you know some wantwit stooge is one day going to give an AI the keys to the car, so to speak, and it will go on a drunken rampage for the "greater good", and we will then be gigantically fucked, even if it take a century or five to get there from here. In addition, there comes the concern regarding robots. We have all seen the various developments up in the Boston area. Machine balance is now being perfected. The apparent remaining stumbling block concerning the viability of robot agents of "government" is our lagging energy storage technologies, which remain miserably inadequate, at least so far as is publicly known. Li batteries are shyte and dangerous in the deal. But one day Theire paid agents will crack that nut and when a robot can run for weeks, months, or even years before refueling, coupled with tightly circumscribed AI controllers, you will have a race of agents to do the tyrant's bidding, and they will neither equivocate, nor will they hesitate if and more likely when the tyrant decides he's had enough of whatever behavior displeases him or Themme, and the gloves will come off. Imagine a machine that will be able to calmly observe and analyze human body language and motion such that any movement deciphered as disobedient or intending a threat results in the agent's weapons coming to bear in a matter of milliseconds and discharging. Human has no chance against such tech, save from long range, and even then who can say what tricks the tin cans may have up their sleeves? None of this bodes well precisely because we all know that this tech will absolutely be turned against us, and once a threshold is crossed, Theye will no longer have any reason whatsoever to pretend. Theye will come out of the closet as rulers, will state so explicitly, and will make certain that we become keenly aware that death awaits all who disobey the king despot.
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    10-04-2024, 01:02 PM
    osan started a thread World Gone Mad in Open Discussion
    Ugh... I'm so sick of the way things are. I do what I can to maintain a reasonable level of optimism and mannerliness, but I have to confess my patience gets tried. I've been a blacksmith since age 16. I am in a few blacksmithing groups on antisocial media. One of the groups is for beginners. A recurring gripe revolves around the difficulties newbies have finding anvils. They are now very costly. So today I took half an hour out of my day to CAD up a simple, versatile DIY anvil offered as inspiration to innovate and use one's creative abilities to overcome obstacles. You would not believe the reactions of some people. "Well I've worked in tool and die and I can tell you have no experience with doing things like this..." and so on. I guess the seven years I spent as a manual machinist in college doesn't count. The levels of raw and bitter anger are just mind numbing. Just as with anyone, I have my share of issues, but I have to say that if I lived my life in such a state, I'd just eat a bullet. How can they stand it?
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    10-04-2024, 05:21 AM
    What more convincing evidence is needed for people to twig to the broader truth here? The fact that we're not moving en masse not just to help the people whose lives have been set to ruin in the wake of the storm, we should be taking up our torches and pitchforks and finally showing Themme who's boss for real. On a very sad note, my friend and fellow blacksmith George Dixon was swept away in the flooding in Asheville. His body was recovered a couple days later. God rest his good soul. He was deeply talented, highly skilled, intelligent, smart, and had a very good heart. I will miss him sorely, sd will many others. He touched many lives.
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    10-04-2024, 05:13 AM
    While I agree with the statement, it doesn't make a proper definition. Put that forward and the scoundrels would have a field day "interpreting" ist meaning. Language is devilish tricky stuff on our best days, and it only gets worse from there, most especially when people get up to no-good. I cannot claim scientific rigor in my definitions, but I confidently assert that they are worlds better than anything found in any of the law tomes I have yet encountered. I further assert that the relevant definitions are as they are not by accident or virtue of innocent error, but that they are so intentionally. Maintaining a vague and strategically imprecise definition leaves those in certain positions of power the broadest latitudes of action precisely because they have the plausible basis for interpretation of terms so basic and whose consequent effects are so broad, they can (and do) get away with very nearly anything. This becomes trebly the case when you couple that circumstance with that of having the rabble trained very much away from habits of resistance. This is the precise condition in which we find ourselves over most of the globe. Theye are indeed in charge and we accede to Theire commands, mandates, and fiats with strong obedience, even if we complain about it. And as of the recent several years Theye are so very blatantly attempting to deal with the complaining part. The push to end free speech is so artlessly transparent a move to alter our thinking by altering and limiting our vocabulary and expressive prerogatives, we the glorious people shame ourselves by the complacent idleness with which we meet such scurrilous profaning of the most basic of our rights. What's next, idleness in the face of Themme and their agents making porn with our two year olds? That's where things are heading, make you no mistake about it. Definitions must, above all other things, be complete, correct, and clear. Otherwise their value comes into question.
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    10-01-2024, 11:15 AM
    Simplified definitions for Law and Crime: Definition of LawLaw (Capitalized): A system of rules that govern behavior within a society. The components of this system are referred to as "Laws." A Law must satisfy the following conditions: Singular Focus: It addresses a single crime or violation. Mala in Se: The crime addressed must be inherently wrong or evil (mala in se), meaning it is wrong by its very nature, independent of legal statutes.
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    10-01-2024, 08:21 AM
    Are you fucking kidding? Either your reading habits suck Michelle Obama's 10" penis, or you're just intentionally being a dick. But to answer your quesiton, HERE Seriously pal, what in hell is wrong with you. I've been civil and accommodating. Now I'm done.
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    10-01-2024, 08:08 AM
    Firstly, you seem to be mixing two issues. That aside, is it your contention that hamas didn't rape women, take hostages, commit murders, burn infants alive, and so on? If that is your claim, upon what evidence do you base it? And what has the warning to do with anything? Let us take a step back and get a broader view of this situation. Assuming that the reports are fact and that they are true, which I will concede for argument's sake and only for that sake, your apparent and implied premise is that Israel neglected to act, apparently with intent, and that they would have known where the attack would occur, when it would occur, or absent that, that they could have marshalled sufficient forces to cover their entire national border for an indefinite period. This fails on several levels. For one thing, time was on hamas' side. They have eyes in Israel and any such mobilization would signal hamas to stop and wait-see. Keeping troops active for a year based on intelligence, regardless of how good, is costly in several ways. Firstly, there are finances. There is the disruption of business due to the absence of people for conducting same. Thereby does the economy falter and things become difficult. Then there is the physical and psychological detriments suffered by those who live in a state of red-alert for protracted periods. People suffer ill effects in mere weeks. In a year or more, they get toasted. It cannot be maintained. Anyone doubting this need only consult the histories of the two big wars. PTSD is real and it is debilitating. So if we assume no false flags for the nonce, that Israel is playing with both hands on the table, then it becomes clear that they could not respond in any ideal way that would have guaranteed sufficient defensive coverage in a circumstance where hamas is able to pick both time and location of an attack. So unless you have conclusive proof that Israel acted in criminally bad faith here, there really isn't anything to discuss that is of meritorious value. Until it is proven that they acted badly, the only evidence we have and on which we can proceed is that they were attacked. Or is it your contention that no such thing occurred and this is all a great three ring bullshit circus? I ask because you seem to have some issue with the facts of the matter as currently claimed.
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    10-01-2024, 07:36 AM
    Don't be obtuse; it doesn't help you. I specifically stated that I support what they are doing from their POV and under the very clearly stated conditions that all is sufficiently as it appears. I also very explicitly stated that if it turned out that the Israeli "government" was directly and intentionally responsible for the 10/7 attack that my views on the matter would alter fundamentally. Do yourself a favor and read what I wrote and stop making shit up. It becomes tiresome and if I wish for disingenuous and/or careless tedium, I can go hang out at facebook. I come here to have adult discussions and not this sort of thing.
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    09-30-2024, 06:26 PM
    So far as I know, Israel created hamas... for what purpose I don't precisely recall, but my vague recollection is that it was to establish a "government" that Israel would control and that it got away from them. Plausible, but still not sure I buy that last bit. As to whether Bennie funded them, it would not surprise me. I think looking into all that makes normative sense, but given how tight-lipped the Israeli "government" can be, I suspect that practically speaking it would be a waste of time. Now you see, THAT makes no sense at all. If Bennie is that stupid, then perhaps he indeed needs to see the inside of a Saudi prison. Those people are cause-oriented and are either immune to such bribery due in large part to the nature of the cause to which they are subscribed, or they take the money on the promise and then turn right around and break their word, so much the wealthier. After all, Allah condones lying to the kaffir if it furthers the causes of Islam. I find it difficult at best to accept that Bennis is that stupid. Not impossible, but methinks unlikely.
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    09-30-2024, 05:53 PM
    Before you get your undies in a twist, let's get a few things straight. My support is based on a set of "all else equal" conditions, which may not prove out. Perhaps I should have specified this, but rewriting War and Peace isn't always so attractive. But if all else is in fact equal, then I'd ask what you would do in their shoes? If an army of sand fleas crossed my border and murdered 1200 of my own, I would be dead set on getting my pound of flesh. The Palestinians are receiving condign punishment, save that the children should be exempted. But this is war and shit happens and is happening. Now, I believe that I have posted some time in the past year that a possibility that cannot be dismissed was that Israel covertly taunted and tempted hamas into mounting this attack, qualifying it as functionally being a false flag. After all, Israel CREATED hamas long ago, I suppose thinking they were being clever or something, and as the story goes it got away from them. Assuming this is so and that Israel does not retain ultimate control over hamas, and the attack was not the work of them crafty Jooz working at something, then I ask once again what would you do were you in their position? Wish all you want. Israel has been a nuisance since forever, but again I bid you look it things from their perspective. Who can say what the actual truth of it all might be. Did they steal that land? My understanding, which has yet to be refuted by anyone, is that Jews had purchased land in so-called "Palestine" since the 19th century at least. The Arabs decided at some point, "fuck that shit" and denied those property owners their rights. There SEEMS to have been all manner of hanky panky going on there after the war when they were trying to establish the Israeli state. I don't know enough about the legal realities, as well as those political, to say whether all the machinations were just acts or those of a raft of sneaky little felons. But if we assume the acquisition and establishment was valid, or as valid as that sort of thing can ever by in any case, and that the Jews were working within proper moral limits, even with the occasional excursions therefrom, then the Jews of Europe had and retain every right to be there and most of this bullshit falls at the feet of the Arabs. If we assume otherwise, then we are still reduced to a pragmatic circumstance: the state of Israel is a fact.
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