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    01-18-2018, 07:16 AM
    http://www.wnd.com/2018/01/1-state-aims-to-be-sanctuary-state-for-gun-rights/ A West Virginia lawmaker has introduced a bill to the state House that would outlaw enforcement of current and future gun-control laws that violate the U.S. or state constitutions. House Bill 2138, introduced by Republican Del. Pat McGeehan, would effectively nullify all federal gun control within the state’s boundaries, according to a report from the Tenth Amendment Center. The bill would make any attempt to enforce such laws a felony. HB2138 reads: “All current and future federal, state, and local statutes, ordinances, laws, orders, rules, and any other actions which attempt to restrict, tax, or regulate the possession, use, discharge in lawful self-defense, transportation, purchase, acquisition, sale, transfer, ownership, carrying, manufacture, or repair of firearms, firearm accessories, ammunition and their accouterments contradict the true meaning and original intent of the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States and Section twenty-two, Article III of the Constitution of the State of West Virginia. Those statutes, ordinances, laws, orders and rules which violate the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of West Virginia are invalid, and therefore, are null and void.”
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    01-15-2018, 10:16 AM
    It may not be an attack per sé. Attacking the reason you have an economy beyond the stone age makes little sense, at least at this stage of the game so far as I am able to discern... which means nothing necessarily. Who knows what the inner circle members know WRT what is likely to come? Perhaps we are at the brink of some disaster and China seeks to protect itself as best it is able. OTOH, were the Chinese and Russians to gang up on the rest of the world's economy, they might just have the horsepower to pull it off. Kill the dollar and what does anyone thing the mean American would do, other than panic and bow to anyone promising them safety? The Europeans would be even worse. So long as the Chinese et al kept their words and maintained the integrity of the currency, they could have an iron grip on the global economy in virtual perpetuity. Doubtless, neither likes the fact that America holds that grip at the moment. But America has been an ass about it for a very long time, what with the poison of progressivism running in its tainted veins now for a good century. We have been spendthrift to a degree nobody would have likely accepted as even remotely possible, and yet here we are. I don't think it would be very difficult for a key economic player to drop the hammer on us. The problem is that when we go, the rest of the planet gets sucked into the vortex with us. I would imagine that great care in strategy and tactics is clearly called for in the eyes of the likes of a China. How to dislodge the American economic hegemony without plunging the entire world into chaos and the inevitable warfare that would ensue, this time on a truly global basis. Were that to happen; were China's economy to be greatly unsettled, even their iron fisted rule could very well face serious threat. I am sure the Chinese do not want that. After all, life's just starting to get god for them. But people are what they are and those in power always want more, even when to pursue it is foolhardy. Until we know, we can only speculate. Just be glad that we remain a very well-armed populace. Though it still seems impossible in the eyes of most, our arms may yet come to preserve us from heaven only knows what hellacious fate.
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    01-14-2018, 03:45 PM
    Well shoot, what would have people do? Yes yes, government cannot be trusted to the door - we all know that, but their fuck ups have never before been of such a nature as this. Even where the prognosis is hopeless, people scramble to survive. I cannot blame them a whit for doing what they did. Can you imagine what it must have been like? In the wake of this, I'd be hell bent to go hunting. Any clues as to the general response to this? My fear is that the sheep will bleat up a storm and go back to grazing.
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    01-14-2018, 03:34 PM
    I trust you know there is virtually zero chance of this happening. Even if done in a production environment as a live test, the messages going out would go to a simulator, which is little more than the bit-bucket. That way, the messages that would be otherwise sent to systems that would broadcast them to the world can be intercepted, verified, and validated as proper in format, content, and target distribution. Prior to executing such a test, which would most likely be conducted at 2AM or thereabouts, the target system - the dummy/simulator/bit-bucket would be confirmed by multiple operators as being the sole target to which messages are going. With something like this, there can be no fucking around. I've been top-dog on a large number of major test initiatives for various large OSSes (Operations Support Systems). There was no making mistakes of the sort I've described. This is trebly the case for live testing of something like early warning systems for what I assume are very obvious reasons. There are two major reasons for testing such systems: to verify and validate function and do the same with operations training. The former tests the actual system, the latter the people who are to use it. If you are testing the software, generally speaking you do it in a test environment, wholly segregated from any live avenue. If you are testing the crew's abilities, you send dummy messages over the live system at 2AM with many eyes on what actually goes into the wild, with fast-response, single-button contingency plans in place for when something goes wholly awry, as was the case here. If a TINAD message (This Is Not A Drill) goes out by mistake, a single button is all that is necessary to make the proper amends. This brand of testing is all about contingency planning for when things go wrong in the live environment. Those plans were not in evidence here, which means either they don't exist or they were consciously left at the curb. Either way, I'd say there are some rather thorny questions that need to be answered and warm bodies that need to go to the military barracks for a very long time. Imagine if someone had committed suicide in fear or despair because of this reckless act? This cannot be tolerated in any measure and IMO the treatments need to be draconian, applied at the highest levels possible.
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    01-14-2018, 11:46 AM
    Not so fast. There is much in the bible I find ridiculous such that I would not subscribe to it even if God Hisownself said that I must. The basic Christian ethic, however, is pretty good from both the aspects of pure principle and that of practicality, at least as I choose to interpret them. I'm no expert on the bible. I've read it, and it bored me to the brink of gouging out my own eyes with my thumbs. I can say the same for the Vedas, Qur'an, Zend Avesta, and so on down a considerable list. The literary style of such texts are almost universally tedious, cover to cover and the content dreary beyond my will to tolerate. What men need is a text that is properly structured for logic, carefully considered for content, and written in a concise yet sufficient manner so as to impart to readers that which is essential, sans all the extraneous rhetoric and allegorical frivolity. We are at a point in our history where technology has taken such a position as to be usable as a properly uniting influence, with emphasis on "properly". Were the people of this rock united at the right level of conceptual abstraction, the world would stand to become a far better place. Don't hold your breath in wait. The bible is largely chud - wholly useless and utterly uninteresting to me. But credit must always be given where due. There are gems in the torrents of wasteful storytelling that are worth mining, understanding, and living, IMO. I will never go through it again as once or twice was plenty for me. But it would be a good thing if a man of proper intellect, position, skill, and integrity were to distill the right biblical principles into a correctly contrived tome. Perhaps it has been done, but I am not aware of it. So I would admonish one and all to be careful with condemnation. Too much, too broadly cast, stands one a good chance of losing something of good value. The choice, of course, is always yours.
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    01-14-2018, 10:58 AM
    Loathe as I am at times to trust Jones, what he says early on about five failsafe measures makes perfect sense. I've worked MILSPEC in the past and imbecilic as most things governmental tend to be, the MILSPEC with which I have had direct contact has been quite good. I can barely imagine that systems such as early warning would be designed so haphazardly as to allow for an error such as this to occur by "accident". That this is being so peddled leaves me inclined to side with Jones. The claim reeks of bullshit. I will say one other thing about such systems: I cannot for the life of me imagine that such a message could be sent without alerts popping up in splash screens on every terminal in the facility in question. I further cannot imagine that such messages would not show up at DoD and possibly the White House itself. It's not as if this was a report that Sgt. Bilko has a nosebleed. This is also why the official story about Behghazi is a lie. When an embassy puts out an SOS, every US embassy on the planet gets a copy. Every top-tier military terminal receives it, as does State, DoD, and so on. That is how these sorts of messages operate. Both civilian and military bodies are alerted, worldwide. That this went on for 37 minutes reeks either of malicious intent, or bottomless incompetence. I am more inclined at this time toward the former. It will be very interesting to see how Trump responds to this, materially speaking.
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    01-14-2018, 10:07 AM
    Feh... are you serious? This will pass into the mists, challenged in no substantive way. Were the people of Hawaii to take real action, I'd amend my opinion. As things stand, I am confident there will be no plate of crow to eat, which is the real pity. You know things are bad when someone such as myself wishes to be justly regarded as the village idiot. Any heads that roll will be those of relative innocence and no consequence whatsoever to the governing orthodoxy. Think about it in some depth: if this cannot bring a population to rise in fury to strike down that which so clearly treats them in such shabby disregard, I cannot readily envision what might. Thirty seven minutes of thinking there are warheads inbound must seem like that many eternities. Imagine the thoughts and emotions racing through parents for their children. Those same people will fail to rise and take care of business. I suppose they deserve the abuse of the yokes placed about their necks. This leads my inner software engineer to wonder how their systems are designed, that a mere changing of the guard could lead to this sort of result. The only other possibility is that the man who set this fiasco into motion did so with knowledge and intent, in which case he should spend many years in Leavenworth doing the rocks thing. From a GUI design standpoint, there should be at least three levels of confirmation, properly formatted, through which one must traverse before such messages go out into the wild. Proper design and implementation of such a filter is not particularly difficult. If it is missing, some very serious questions should arise. If not, well...
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    01-13-2018, 06:45 PM
    OK, fair enough. I experience cross talking often enough. It's a common human failing... I am prone to it. :) Show me a thread and i'll tune in. But I will bring up weaknesses, if I find them.
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    01-13-2018, 04:13 PM
    I've written no such thing. I wrote that temporally speaking, the vast majority of humanity's existence has been lived anarchically. No "state". No "king". No "government". No bible. What they had was clear senses of the sanctity of each individual without the distracting pollution of the manifold heaps of mental bullshit that has increasingly contaminated the intellects of men for thousands of years. I will add that, contrary to popular belief, the divine cannot be avoided. Therefore, any assertion of "beyond divine law" (taking "law" casually just to be conversational) is absurd on its face, in my mind. Liberty, I might argue, IS divine law. Therefore, anywhere one finds liberty, one must perforce find the divine.
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    01-13-2018, 03:57 PM
    A couple things. Firstly, I understand that you are not arguing so, but nonetheless when one puts up the bible as a standard, it must be DEMONSTRATED as valid. Not unlike most of the more pervasive religions, one is called to believe blindly. THAT is the problem. As stupid as people tend to be in such vast numbers, even those dullards have a tacit sense of reason - that blind acceptance is foolishness. "Here, eat this. Trust me, it's not poisonous." Nobody in their right mind takes this on faith, generally speaking. What I am getting at, and apparently have failed to make the point, is that the practical matter is not whether the bible is true and authoritative, but rather in how one establishes it as such beyond mere and blind faith. As I have written, most people not of that persuasion tend to be resistant even to well constructed arguments that employ facts and solid logic. To expect people to accept a given standard of behavior based on lesser argumentation is not very realistic. Truth means nothing if people cannot see it or otherwise refuse to accept it as such. This is an eminently practical matter. I've encountered the problem literally thousands of times over the course of my life. People are what they are. Some are ignorant but willing to learn. Others are unwilling, for any of a variety of reasons including but not limited to laziness, fear, and other corruptions of the Self. A few don't have the capacity - pity them. Others still, are simply too wholly welded to whatever beliefs they hold to abandon them for something different, especially if it demands more effort of them. At the risk of seeming self-aggrandizing, I have built and delivered a few rather virtuoso performances on various sensitive topics. In some cases, reticent parties were at least willing to concede points and admit they had something about which to think. But regardless of how carefully I would employ the Socratic method, leading the "victim" down the chain of reason, gaining his buy-in every step of the way, they would still reject the conclusion to which any intelligent and honest man would have to arrive. That's the nature of dealing with people where touchy subjects are concerned. My point is that anything less compelling than the most adeptly contrived arguments are only going to have even less chance of winning hearts and minds.
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    01-13-2018, 11:28 AM
    If Christ owns me, I am a chattel slave. I don't think that is what God wants. And my point is that the Christian bible is not an absolute authority. It is not a properly reasoned authority. It is a standard that is eminently open to dissection through strong argumentation. Don't misunderstand, while I disagree with much in the bible, especially when it is forwarded as a universal authority for all men, I am in strong agreement with the ethic is espouses. The reasons for both agreeing and disagreeing are the same: reasoned analysis leads me to each conclusion, as well as my skepticism of the rest. God, whatever/whoever that may actually be, endowed men with the power to develop reason. We were given our brains for reasons that go beyond the hat-rack. Therefore, I choose to use mine, which reason demands I take apart the blind assertions of anyone's words, even "God's". When I apply it to biblical edict, some pass the smell test; some do not.
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    01-12-2018, 10:21 PM
    If you were bought, the latter is moot. Not to mention more perilous. Except nowhere is "unjust" made universally clear and accepted. I know far too many people who think taxation lies well outside the definition of "tyranny".
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    01-12-2018, 02:44 PM
    Lets take a very cursory look at this. Damnation and pox upon the Congress for passing this. The same upon Bush for signing it into enactment. But ten times the same to the prosecutors who, upon learning of a given case of such wiretapping, failed to apprehend and charge the guilty parties. The same for judges, police, and all other Merecogs of "government" who went along with this. And ten times that to the rest of us who sat idly by as these vermin ran roughshod over the rights of our fellows as we lazily or cowardly sat back in idle thanks that it was not we whose lines were being tapped... even though in reality they were. And most here could give a tinker's damn so long as they can marginally accept the self-deceit that tells them it's not happening to them, it's not evil, and those to whom it happens deserve it. Americans. Feh.
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    01-12-2018, 02:33 PM
    Ugh... Should read "violated". One cannot remove a fundamental right. One can only waive or violate it. May seem like picking nits, but the difference is important to a proper understanding and attitude regarding their own rights, as well as those of others.
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    01-11-2018, 04:09 PM
    I don't know whether you lack a certain ability to connect dots or are being intentionally obtuse. Whichever the case, I don't think I can make any headway here, so lets call you the "winner" and leave it at that. I have more important things with which to occupy my time. Have a good one.
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    01-11-2018, 11:09 AM
    Coercion underlies everything contemporary government does. You live in a strange and small world, it seems. The apparent assumptions under which you labor make no hay with me whatsoever. You seem to embrace the violence of governmental taxation so long as you think you have a say in how it is spent. You will forgive me if I point out how childish this is. You accept tyranny so long as you get what you want out of it. This is typical of the thinking of Merecog Weakmen. Believe and cotton to whatever it is that gets you through the night, but as for me this is pure shyte. Big deal. I don't like Netflix, I don't pay. I don't like taxation and don't pay, men with guns threaten my very existence.
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    01-07-2018, 10:35 PM
    I do. Not all causes are prone to the leverage of money. Are you free to hold them criminally accountable if they murder someone ostensibly in the name of your security? If not, then who? Anyone? By what authority?
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    01-07-2018, 09:41 PM
    In principle, I actually have no problem with this. The vermin need to be aired out. The problem is that that seems not to be happening. Rather, it is the decent men in Congress, few and far between as they may be, who are taking it in the neck at the hands of these scurrilous little punks of the so-called "left" who have no principles other than getting what they think they want.
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    01-07-2018, 10:10 AM
    Eric Peters is a kindred spirit. His writing is well suited to this brand of discourse and he has the ability to separate chaff from seed and get right to the real points at hand. I'm almost surprised nobody's knocked him off yet. The only reason I haven't been "addressed" is that nobody pays a whit of attention to anything I have to say, which I suppose is all for the better. I have a very close friend who is like this, yet our manifold discussion on such matters appears to have budged him in some nontrivial ways over the past several years.
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    01-07-2018, 09:30 AM
    You would have to ask him, I do not presume to speak for others on such matters, mostly. That said, he believes in certain functions of governANCE, which is not the same as so-called "governMENT". The proper functions of the script most people confuse with an actual, extant entity called "government" are two: the protection/guaranty of the rights of all men and the adjudication of disputes of certain kinds. There is nothing else. Having established this, it is no great feat to show that those functions are pretty well required any place you have more than one individual residing. There are exceptions to this, I know for certain, but they are relatively few and far between when taken in the context of the whole, so far as I can tell. Given the utility of such functions, it then follows that someone, somewhere, must administer them. Whether such administration is "public" or "private" is irrelevant. The difference is, in fact, nonexistent because in each case one human being is assuming authority over another in what is functionally equivalent to a master/slave relationship. The only possible differences, once the "authority" has been established, lie in the nature and degree of that power of one man over another. While I will not deny that such differences can be significant, the truly salient point lies in the establishment of the validity of of such power. After that, it matters no whit in principle who assumes it. Thus far, we have established that someone, somewhere, holds authority over other men who have through word or other deed crossed a line into trespass against another, the basis of which founds upon the assumption that one man may not so trespass with impunity. If we reject this authority, then we reject in principle all order between men. Suddenly I become free to track you down and put a meat ax in your head because there is nothing in principle to tell me that I cannot. You hold the same authority to do so with me or any other. Note my carefully considered use here of "authority" vis-a-vis "power". I have the power to kill you or any other man I choose. A lifetime of training in the manifold ways of doing such things has garnered me that. You probably have such power as well, the differences between us a matter of discussion or speculation, all ultimately irrelevant to this exchange. The only remaining issue, then, is whether such authority is administered with correct justice. There you have it. No whit of difference between public or private administration of an authority I hope you would agree is of great utility for all good and decent men. The question that remains is what is the best way to implement such authority so that it is indeed administered with propriety. That is not a matter of public v. private, but of proper v. improper. I would argue that hold their respective advantages and drawbacks, each of which falls back upon the basic characters of men, ultimately.
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    01-07-2018, 08:56 AM
    Trying to make this appear as an "accidental" bump? You bastard! That said, the OP feels as if he'd been channeling myownself. Then there's this: How I pine for the good old days... <LONGFELIXUNGERSIGH>...
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    01-07-2018, 04:44 AM
    You appear to be conflating ignorance with stupidity. As for 20K BC, for one thing we don't know what people were like then as far as I can tell. For another, one cannot judge the people then by today's standards. Mr. Apples, meet Mr. Oranges. Yes you can see it that way. It is equally valid to see it from the perspective of costs, which have been very high. Possibly too high, from certain standpoints. As for your apparent assessment of the results of the so-called "Malthusian Trap", others may see it differently. Certainly you are entitled to your opinion on the matter, but so are others. I can swing either way on the issue, depending on the broader context in which it is being considered. Ideally, I would like to see everyone happy, healthy, manifesting good intelligence, smarts, and attitudes befitting Freemen. Meanwhile, on planet earth, we witness ignorance and the will to stupidity on a global scale such that it becomes something of a wonder as to how the world of men does not fly apart from one second to the next. Point taken.
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    01-07-2018, 04:03 AM
    Not meaning to jack the thread, but how's Rand doing? Last I heard, he was in some dire crap resulting from the whopping he took. Speaking of which, is there any news of the fate of the bastard who did this? Has he skipped with millions that appeared suddenly at his doorstep in a package bearing a Soros return address? Is he in rio getting his obviously tiny weenie worked by the gayhooker contingent? Or is he awaiting a long and misery-laden prison sentence? I rarely take even the least crumb of pleasure in the misfortunes of even those who do significant evil. I am willing to make an exception in this case.
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    01-07-2018, 03:57 AM
    This is outstanding. Not as outstanding as it might otherwise have been, but it is a step in a better direction. Screw Pakistan, first of all - let India pound them into extinction for all I care. More importantly, screw foreign aid. If redirecting those funds back into America directly is the best we can get for now, I would call it good. Let that become de rigeur in terms of foreign policy, and then we can work on reductions in theft from the American people. One step at a time. Neither Rome nor quasi-communist America were built in a day. For those who'd whine and bitch about Trump not being pure enough, I say stuff that. This is so much better a result than that which could have been expected in even the most wildly optimistic case with Clinton, nobody should be complaining.
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    01-07-2018, 03:52 AM
    Damned kids these days... Hillary indeed has a huge schwanz. It's even bigger than my porno-grade member, if anyone can actually believe it. I know, seems outlandish, but it's true. She is a lesbo with a giant cock. I'm not sure what it is about this that seems so difficult for you. People need to get out more.
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    01-07-2018, 03:44 AM
    Once again, says who? I am very conservative in most of my opinions. I believe in the sacred, in decency, right, wrong, and so forth. I am also very anarchy-oriented, an "autodiathist". None of these things are contradictory, nor do they interfere with one another in any manner. I accept as valid no portion of governmental interference in my life. You assertion is demolished, QED. That is untrue, as demonstrated above.
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    01-06-2018, 06:58 PM
    You presume to speak for all people who ID as one of these. You assume they are uniform. You assume too much, support none of it, and then assert your conclusion. That's a big FAIL. You cite a list as authoritative in the same way. I demolished your invalid proof by producing an example to the contrary. What more do you want?
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    01-06-2018, 11:54 AM
    Once again, who says? Also, I never wrote any such thing. I wrote that HE IDENTIFIES AS a conservative. Anyone can make a list. Stalin had all kinds of them. If I relinquish control of my eye muscles, those round things would roll right out of their sockets.
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    01-05-2018, 09:59 PM
    Here's to hoping you are correct.
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    01-05-2018, 09:57 PM
    Who says? Seems you're making things up out of thin air.
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