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Well, if this doesn't send up a big red dic... erm... I mean *flag* for even dopey leftists, then truly have we no slip of hope remaining. 80K is an un-small army. To be more precise, it is about 2 corps, or four Divisions, on average. There is but one purpose for convening so large an armed body on US soil that is not one of the four branches of the formal armed-forces: tyranny pursuant to subjugation. Try as you might, this can be spun no other way. This is no laughing matter, folks. Those mofos are setting up for something very serious. The best-case scenario is a psywar campaign designed to cow us into submission through the not-very-subtle innuendo of direct armed threats to everyone, compliant or otherwise. A worse case will see them being used against whomever they deem worthy of their wrath. 80K armed and willing acolytes of the Tyrant could EASILY destroy a million lives per year through terror, false charges, false convictions, false imprisonment, and outright murder of those with the temerity to stand on their God-given rights. And mark me here as I predict that if they are allowed to get away with establishing and maintaining this armed-force, their tactics will become progressively more brutal to the point where all pretense of Law and restraint pursuant thereto will be left in the dirt. I predict a time when these jokers will adopt the approach of the dreaded Kill-And-Go in Nigeria, who would sweep into a village that would be giving, say, Shell Oil a hard time, and murder everyone therein. They'd land in helicopters, kill everyone including all the children, then get back in the birds and disappear. Hence the name Kill And Go. If you think it cannot/will not happen here, then I must respectfully deem you an idiot, whether organic or simply as a matter of will. Theye are on a BIG roll now. I suspect the Trump thing may have tossed a wrench in Theire works, and so the agenda is scheduled up before enough Americans gain the least shred of self-respect, which would spell the end of Themme... in America, anyway. It is clear Theye have tossed caution to the wind and have decided to go balls-deep with the remainder of the campaign. We should be stopping this dead in its tracks, yet we do nothing. Therefore, do not be surprised if and when agents show up in your neighborhood to take heads, because this would be as much a psywar campaign, as anything else. Sow terror and dread; shock and awe. I am thinking that the time of caution for Themme is now past, again the Trump having constituted a fly in Theire ointment. So now Theire choice is clear: go for the jugular. From Their standpoint, they are correct in so doing because now that some Americans are beginning to awaken to the truth, every day increases the threat to Theire positions as king despots. We are at, or VERY close to, an inflection point, and THAT is the time to strike boldly at the Freedom's carotids. As the old saying goes, fate favors the bold... mainly because the Meaner is a useless sack of protoplasm who, when challenged directly, suddenly, and with apparently great force of will, can be utterly psyched out in a matter of minutes, of not seconds, prompting him to lay down and open his legs wide.

Risk... benefits... hazards... All irrelevant. Why? Glad you asked. Because human beings. Period. Nobody gives a damn about the risks because those engaging in such research ALWAYS think they have things under control. Benefits? ANY potential strategic military (and hence political) advantage will be pursued, regardless of cost. Make no mistake, so-called "gain of function" is 100% about military advantage - the trump card each side wishes to have in their hip pocket... just in case. The history of humanity should make this clear to everyone with an IQ. This is trebly demonstrated over the course of the twentieth century. The moment industrialization of warfare became a material reality, underpinned by scientific method and engineering know-how, human beings immediately embarked down the grim paths of NBC warfare. There was not even so much as the least detectable hesitation. What, then, makes anyone think that such hearings hold the least meaningful value? This is theater of the most gratuitous variety because of its rank cynicism. The world is in the hands of raving devils, we do absolutely nothing to stop them, and then melodramatically and ever-so-publicly ask how this tragedy or that outrage could have happened. We make embarrassments of ourselves, minute over minute. To put it very bluntly, humanity is full of shit. As a statistical gestalt, we are in love with the petty drama of death and destruction... at least when it's someone else's children being consumed by bombs, disease, poverty, flame, and unspeakable misery. Our political bullshit is all a big game for the bored people of the apparently overly-affluent "first-world", which has bred a raft of adult bodies in various states of arrested mental development. The key outstanding feature of the mean man is the vulgar and cheap, childish self-centeredness that drives an indomitable will to every possible known stupidity. The factories of twisted imaginations churn out new idiocies every single day, to which the masses of functionally brain-dead and ill-bred whelps cleave, as if their very existences depended upon them. The utter depth of self-willed human depravity still manages to open new and shocking, if unsurprising, vistas to me almost by the day. We are a despicable species, unworthy of the blessings and miracles of our existences, not as matters of our immutable individual natures, but of our personal choices, driven by our will to be as shoddily corrupt as we are able to pull off, while evading any immediately discernible consequences.

Perhaps, or not... the relevant point being that effectively infinite units can be concocted from thin air, as you put it. This has been my main concern about an Art. V Convention. If there are any as-yet latent loopholes and were even one to be discovered that would be exploitable via palm grease, Theye would "print" as much as needed to buy the results they want. And what about those trillions that "disappeared" from DoD? Might come in hand when things get interesting. Goebbels took the work of Bernays and tuned it, resulting in his quip regarding telling the big lie, telling it often, and by that means making it the truth.

This once again raises the question of silver v. gold. Historically, the value of gold relative to silver has been about 15x. Today it's just under 90x, so either gold is highly over-valued, or silver highly under-. Which is it? The current discussion seems to suggest the latter, in which case is would appear that silver is the commodity of choice. I'm curious as to the consensus, if there even is one.

Shorting requires a specific relative movement. How is that reliably achieved? Rumor and innuendo have fueled market idiocy since ancient times, but it's always been a risky business. Today's tyrants and other scoundrels seem far less willing to tolerate risk, which would seem to point to the need for reliable means of making the markets do what they want, when they want, in the amounts they want. I'm not saying those means do not exist, but only that I am not familiar with them. As for selling the same physical metal to more than one breathing body, that is certainly one of the easier frauds to perpetrate, so long as the "system" supports it. Keep the prying eyes of investigation at bay, and that scam could go on for a very long time. I've never understood how anyone could be so naive as to trust in such a blatantly insecure scheme as that. AH! You see, I'd not twigged to that angle, and it makes perfect sense. Meet increased demand with false supplies... just crank out as much paper as is needed. The dopey investors are happy in their bubble of false security, the crooks are practically passing out from disbelief that they could be making so much cash on the Stupid of said investors, and everyone is happy.

I think plenty of them actually do know what is happening. Money can buy nearly anything or anyone. Imagine how easily a billionaire is made - literally takes seconds to endow Senator Joe Scumbag with even a trillion dollars. We don't really have clueless "representatives" - we have co-conspirators, if in no other measure than their willingness to turn a blind eye in exchange for a doxy and a bottle of cheap wine. They aren't the problem. We are. Until we decide to kill these jokers, and their children (a grim but essential part of becoming a free people), stamping out not only the tyrant, but his genetic lines, we are going nowhere but ever downward along that lovely death spiral. That is the naked truth of it, like it or not. I will fight because I am a grade-A prick, but to be honest, I no longer give a shit about the liberty of Americans because they have proven themselves unworthy of even their miserable existences, much less actual liberty. Well, I've been talking with God a lot lately. Guess what? Nothing's coming back, so I'm not particularly impressed. God may have his timeline, but it doesn't align well with that of the individual human being, making much of what we experience seem like manifestations of a very sick and sadistic joke. I'm done with all the unproven bullshit of humankind. Until I see evidence, it's all lies, my basis being the several heaps of innocent people whose bodies piled-high like mountains, graced God's half-acre during the twentieth century alone. I have no use for petty, low-rent drama, and I suspect the hundreds of millions who fell to the butchers may not have given the least of a shit about God's grace as their lives were untimely ripped from them; as they watched the same fate befall their children. We are a race of demons and sloths, perfect for one another, the latter watching as the former consumes him, feet-first. That's the world of humans and you can have it. But I will fight - not for anyone else but the handful of those whom I love. The rest of the world can burn and I shall shed not even one tear for them, for they made their beds. Let them nap.

Replacing actual money with mere currency is essential. Recall the Rothschild quote along the lines of "give me control of a nation's currency (or money) and I care not who writes its laws." A few is not nearly enough. Likely, we as a species are hosed. But I intend on defying Themme until I die, by whatever the means that may greet me.

That was a different pretense. I'm not saying it cannot be done now in some similar way, but only that so far there appears to be little notice of anything amiss if it is in fact the case. That nothing would be mentioned in the large networks would be expected, but that even the smaller outlets make no mention of this of which I am aware... that seems a little perplexing to me. Well yes, all points well taken. I suppose I'm just a fool to hope that somehow there exists a better than trivial number of men who see it for what it is. Thus far, the evidence remains inconclusive.

Bioweapons research has been going on for 100 years. It will not be stopping any time soon. The likelihood that SARS-Cov2 is a weapon is high. Consider that its behavior is utterly unprecedented. When have you ever seen a virus mutate so many times in a mere two year period? Never? Correct. This is unlikely to be a natural phenomenon, unless of course the population doomsayers are right and we are approaching some tipping point. But how would we be able to tell whether they are correct, or if what we are experiencing is the product of deliberate artifice? Then there are the so-called "long covid" symptoms that linger for months at the least. I NEVER get sick. When I was a child, I got flu yearly like clockwork and would be deathly ill from it. I finally decided that enough was enough and simply refused to get sick after being in bed a full month in 1979. The only illness I had since then was lyme in 1992, which admittedly jacked my ass up pretty good, but I got over it. Fast forward to last September where, in the wake of having rolled one of the tractors on myself (don't ask), my slight injuries were enough compromise to allow the covid to get hooks in me. I got over it and was fine until about 3 months ago when my lungs just decided to explode. I was expelling lots of white-cell matter. Finally went to doc and he told me this was likely the lingering effects of the covid infection. It's up and down. Last week I felt like I was 50 again. This week, I felt like I had no life in me. My point here is that I have never been like this in any measure, at least since '79. Now all of a sudden I am weak to some lingering aftermath? Possible, but I find it unlikely. My suspicion is that this is the result of a work-product designed to bring just enough effect to the individual to establish non-trivial stress conditions. This would certainly fit the pattern of an intention to break a population of its will to independence and self-governance. Theye are bastards and they want it all. I put nothing past them.

Could be, but how would one pull off? Limiting availability might work, but in the face of scarcity, demand drives prices up. How does one prevent that from being reflected in the market that is based on ask/bid? Somewhere, someone wanting gold for whatever reason is going to bid higher. Are we to believe that nobody is going to sell? Even so, other buyers see, follow suit, and how then do the crooks hide the rise from the market itself? How can oligarchs suppress the price in an ask/bid system, much less do so without arousing widespread suspicion and a resultant crash in confidence, which is the central pillar of all markets? I can see a reason why, though: artificially depress the value to drive the vast majority of holders to begin questioning their gold assets, eventually giving way to a panic sell-off wherein the big fish buy at pennies on the dollar. When Theye feel they've cornered that commodity, they slam the door shut on all small buyers by jacking the price through the roof. The single most reliable money standard on the planet is literally and physically taken away from people, and socked away, leaving the common man screwed in every hole. Perhaps Theye, as represented by "government", would paint themselves as coming to the "rescue" by buying directly from the panic-stricken Meaner, who initially heaves a sigh of relief at having been saved from the barbaric relic that has so clearly failed him, only to have the currency costs of everything jack their ways to heaven itself. The meaner is corn-holed, Theye have repatriated nearly all the gold into their own hands, and do not have to resort to the FDR measure of blatant confiscation, which would probably still work today, but why risk it if you can get the scum (that's us) on their knees, begging for a taste of the willie? Just as the Meaner took covid hook, line, and sinker with an obedience bordering on the obsequious, so can they now be relied upon to follow suit if and when Theye decide to reclaim all of that which they deem to be their own. Yes, we are precisely that conditioned, which is another reason we are hosed and that what little freedom remains on this miserable prison-planet wings its way into the ether, much like your little sister's immaculate virgnity on a hot August evening. Consider this: Theye certainly do not want us holding any meaningful gold reserves, as that would protect far too many from the ravages of inflationary artifice. Therefore, Theye need to keep it out of our hands. Open threats and confiscation would risk real revolt, so make us want to give it up. There's your why. The how... that's the tricky bit... Can Theye mask reflections of real demand OF the market FROM the market? Perhaps it is as simple as you suggest. I'm not smart enough to know.

Not to pick a nit, but I would pick a nit. Referriing to Mises as "our big brother organization", might not be the best choice in appellations. I truly hate, and I just "hate" advisedly here, the way the progressive communists destroy language, but here we are. ETA: As to the notion that we stand at a "catalyzing moment", I say that there is that potential, but as yet it has not become that. The scent, however, seems very definitely on the air. What is clear, however, is that without follow-though to the bitter end, a so-called catalyzing moment becomes meaningless. Consider the catalyzing moment of 7 December, 1941. The failure of Japan to finish off America in Hawaii very literally lost them them the war, cost them their culture, as well as countless lives, and wild destruction on their home turf. THAT is the problem with humans. For example, all the Dutch tyrants need do is back off just a wee bit from their aggression, and chances are good that the Dutch farmers will go back to sleep. Same in all locations because that is the human proclivity. The usurper takes 100 units of whatever it is to which he is in no way entitled, you rage and arm up for war, he backs off 25 units, you go back to sleep, and the tyrant just got 75 units absolutely free of charge. You should have charged him and killed him and his entire family, but failed to follow up because he backed off, and you misinterpreted that act as the cessation of the threat. Hooboy... And for those of you who chafe at my idea (not really mine, but I am the only individual I know with the nerve to say it aloud) of killing even the children of tyrants, of stamping from the earth an entire genetic line, you need to quit being so weak-minded and squeamish about such things. Using "unjust harm to innocents" as the excuse for dereliction of one's duty to the preservation of not only one's own liberty's, but those of his fellows, cannot be validly forwarded, much less sustained in reason.

"booda gig"... "booda judge"... "booda gig"... I was waiting, and hoping, for "booda plug". Alas, Thomas failed to deliver. There's always next time, and just as with the Stupid, hope springs eternal.

Perhaps at this juncture we may all agree on at least one thing: as political entities, both Russia and Ukraine suck. This should be axiomatic, given that all such entities suck.

I'm torn. On the one hand, that woman is a Democrat, which is deeply auto-assassinating. Then there is the drivel that has spewed forth from yer lefty-yap. All of that relegates her to the list of those around whose necks my tightening, blacksmith's fingers wish to go. On the other hand, there is this change in not only what she is saying, but the ways in which she expresses herself, indicating a possible change in world view, or at least an acknowledgment that the people for whom she was a willing and seemingly eager henchman are wickedly corrupt. But she's a politician, and I am not keen to get my sphincter stretched at her hands with a king-sized "gotcha!". Political dregs such as herself rarely have attacks of conscience and alter their views and come to some detectable level of sense and basic decency, so my reticence to accept that she may be coming around to such is well justified. Wondering what you all think on this. I sooner accept Republicans going to the dark side than Democrats coming to the comparative light, humans being what they tend to be. But if she's genuine, then one more voice in the camp of reason and truth is always welcome.

SARS-COV2 is not a particularly potent bug and I do not believe it was released with the intention of killing masses. More likely, an experiment - a test run if you will. It seems like an anal probe to measure and assess our responses, and possibly to build a statistical model of the pathogen's effect on broad and large populations, worldwide. Consider the scenario I forwarded at the beginning of this nonsense: Theye release this bug, drive people nutty, then retreat. Then release another bug, drive people crazier, retreat. Rinse and repeat until people are so fed up with it all, they stop listening altogether. That's the time when you release the real deal - the 99% fatal bug. Once again, you cry wolf, nobody listens to you, only this time the wolf comes, but nobody takes it seriously. The next thing you know there are five billion corpses piled high and in need of disposal. Could Theye be so evil? Could Stalin? Mao? To my way of thinking, Theire most pressing concern in all this is the reaction of the otiose eaters. Theye need to know whether they will be able to handle every conceivable response by the dregs, the human dung. Once Theye have their favorable answer, I se little reason for them not to act swiftly, striking while the iron is hot, and all that.

Dead is dead, so what does it matter if Theye do? I wish people would just leave one another the hell alone. This petty drama bullshit is intolerable boring.

All that you list does nothing to help the Meaner. He is a filthy, rotten-to-the-core beast, regardless of how "nice" he may be. "Nice" buys nothing in my house, and yet is niceness one of the qualities most heavily peddled by the evil we know as "left"? PC and woke are all manifestations of this peddling and they are pure cancer. As for snakes, neither they nor asses are capable of making the choices that we have at our beck. A snake cannot be anything but what it is. A human being, however, can choose objective right or wrong. That he chooses the deepest and most insidious of all the wrongs, damns him most resolutely; irretrievably so when his error is made clear yet he maintains his love-lock on evil.

How does that make them not so bad? That is precisely what makes them horrid creatures - so corrupt, that even when they twig to the ugly truth of tyrants, they sit idly and watch as their own destruction unfolds before their very eyes.

Pissing up a rope is nowhere, and that is all this is. Bioweapons are here, and to stay. We won't kill the bastards, so we may be killed BY them. Humans are just the worst, on average.

Too little, too late.

We do not disagree.

I very specifically meant the greater political context and not the mere taking of an active shooter. That's a big fish in a small pond. As for a sidearm, better late than never.

That's not the relevant sense to which I refer. I'm speaking of the greater political context. Every little bit helps, but such matters are not how freedom is secured and maintained, which is a far larger sphere. I will add that so long as the tyrants are allowed to live, they shall always pose a clear and present threat to liberty. Elimination is the only hope. Think "necessary condition" v. "sufficient".

On the whole, it is losing. Miserably. For example, what difference does it make that SCOTUS renders a ruling that is thinly marginal in favor of RKBA to a people too corrupted with gutlessness to make proper use of it? Freedom is losing at an alarming rate. Titanic is taking on huge volumes of sea.

Secession is not the answer, at least not under current circumstances. We live in an eon of superorganisms. We shall remain in that era into the foreseeable future, barring cultural collapse. Sufficient advances in technology may one day free the individual from the tyrannies of the mob, but until that day arrives, being part of a feudal group is the best hope any man has of remaining minimally enslaved by his fellows. This is a sad truth, but true it remains in any event. The most practical solution under these circumstances of humanity's persistent state of technical and moral barbarism is to clean up the extant order of superorganization in America to the greatest extent possible. Were we to do that, our lives would improve by orders of magnitude, even with the progressives whining and howling about it every step of the way. Add Amendment XXVIII to the Constitution and enforce it with grim intent and indefatigable tenacity, and life would be transformed in miraculous ways in the direction of freedom. Those who assume the mantle of the public trust must be held to stern account for their every action, down to how they wipe their backsides, or all is lost. We see how non-accountability has worked out for humanity as a whole. It has produced and tolerated the Stalins and Maos, with hundreds of millions butchered pursuant to whatever the agenda of demented evil-du-jour might be. It is because we allow it. Kill the tyrants, destroy their families and see how rapidly the synthetic horrors of the Tyrant disappear from the earth. None of us will see a time where a single man will be able to live as a wholly sovereign unit, but there is nothing to stop us from instilling wild terror into the hearts of those who would claim to serve the common good in an official capacity. Let them and their families live in the endless apprehension that they might even in the least measure disturb the rights of free men. Let them step up, serve a short tenure, and as rapidly as possible remove themselves from their positions of special trust for the fear that would live with them during that time. Let that terror weed out the false servants whose deeper desire would be to rule. Butcher violators and render to wrack and ruin their families until within the culture the common mindset of a coyote seeking corrupt advantage stamps itself from existence in all but the rarest cases, those few remaining being readily treated with goodly made hemp rope and widely televised publicity. Leave the abjectly miserable dregs of their families as testament of that to which all may look forward when the public trust is violated in so much as the least degree. There is nothing less - nothing more kindly, that such people will understand and respect. Physical destruction must remain the reward for all who abuse their positions of special trust.

Can you blame him? Seriously, everywhere one looks, we see full-throttle corruption, the scoundrels no longer even putting up a pretext of appearances. They now simply deny in the same manner as when one opens a door, discovers a lefty sitting on a body, stabbing wildly away, blood squirting every which direction, and outright denying what he is doing before the entire world as witness. Given this reality that we have chosen - and make no mistake, our tolerance is indeed tantamount to choice - I cannot blame too vigorously anyone for taking what they can get, because the current prognosis for humanity is grim on its best minute. On the one hand you have the instigators, and on the other the seemingly good-for-nothing mass of willfully stupid humanity - that would be the rest of us - who, because they so willingly accept every outrage heaped upon them, really deserve no sympathy or the help and compassion of the Superior Man. If you are not going to act to defend your own better interests, why should your betters lift a finger save you from self-imposed doom? The "west" is shoveling the wealth onto Zelensky's plate. I suspect he is well aware that Russia is either going to ultimately prevail, in which case his ass is deep in the kimchee, or the warring will go on for years with Ukraine reduced to rubble. In either case, you'd have to be a braying imbecile to remain. Your "friends" are tossing huge fortunes at you - you'd be insane not to take it and save at least one life in what is surely to prove yet another chapter and study in abject human misery, courtesy of the muck-rakers. Were I in his place, I'd be taking the money, and hauling ass for Fiji. There's likely no saving Ukraine, or the vast majority of humanity for that matter, for whom there is precious little to recommend.

...them AND the dildos they rode in on. Russia sucks. Ukraine sucks. Humanity pretty much sucks. Stop the world, I want to get off...